It's a shame but I'm sure Unknown Worlds would never release another Alpha to the public again after seeing all the whining and cry-babying happening on the forums, nor would any other developer who has visited this forum and seen all the unnecessary backlash. Personally I've enjoyed seeing the progress from build to build, as I'm sure many others have - even though they might not have been quite as vocal as the people who are incessantly complaining. I'm sure everyone, including the devs, would love to see regular updates with huge strides being taken but with a development crew of only 5 full-time employees sometimes there are going to be bumps in the road. I'm not saying everyone should be hanging on UW's n####k either but some of you guys really need to take a step back and look at how ridiculous you're acting - some of the posts on the forums are downright conspiracy theory hogwash, as if the devs are going to run off with our money and retire in the Caribbean.
remiremedy [blu.knight]Join Date: 2003-11-18Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
Sad thing is... I just bought CoD:Black Ops, and the game feels very much on par with the performance of NS2. Lots of jitter, laggy input... Tried defragging, and I'm hoping that restarting my computer will help... but yeah. Soon NS2 might actually be out-performing a multi-million dollar game.
<!--quoteo(post=1805120:date=Nov 10 2010, 09:26 AM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Psyke @ Nov 10 2010, 09:26 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1805120"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sad thing is... I just bought CoD:Black Ops, and the game feels very much on par with the performance of NS2. Lots of jitter, laggy input... Tried defragging, and I'm hoping that restarting my computer will help... but yeah. Soon NS2 might actually be out-performing a multi-million dollar game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Really? I heard a heap of people saying how badly it ran but it seems to play just as well as MW2 did for me :S (Q6600 and HD5850, seemed to be steady at 50-90fps).
And I don't get the "fanboy" thing. I'm not really seeing any nose-to-anus action going on, just people trying to inform. Which is fair when people are invoking anger over things that are obvious (e.g. an alpha running badly, delays, bugs, etc etc) or people pointing fingers at things that have been explained prior in other threads.
remiremedy [blu.knight]Join Date: 2003-11-18Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
<!--quoteo(post=1805130:date=Nov 10 2010, 02:29 AM:name=MaLaKa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaLaKa @ Nov 10 2010, 02:29 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1805130"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Really? I heard a heap of people saying how badly it ran but it seems to play just as well as MW2 did for me :S (Q6600 and HD5850, seemed to be steady at 50-90fps).
And I don't get the "fanboy" thing. I'm not really seeing any nose-to-anus action going on, just people trying to inform. Which is fair when people are invoking anger over things that are obvious (e.g. an alpha running badly, delays, bugs, etc etc) or people pointing fingers at things that have been explained prior in other threads.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah I dunno. I just played through MW2, smooth as silk. I think my HDD might just be acting up. I also saw some postings suggesting changing BlackOps to be restricted to just one core to fix stutter (haven't tried it yet).
I've got a HD4870 and a Athlon 64x2 3.2Ghz... probably getting close to time to upgrade, but it's not so weak I'd expect to really see any issues in these games when I turn down the AA and such.
<!--quoteo(post=1805115:date=Nov 10 2010, 08:37 AM:name=Warmonger)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Warmonger @ Nov 10 2010, 08:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1805115"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's a shame but I'm sure Unknown Worlds would never release another Alpha to the public again after seeing all the whining and cry-babying happening on the forums, nor would any other developer who has visited this forum and seen all the unnecessary backlash.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not really a shame, most don't, they usually have a closed alpha or beta test from a select pool for this very reason. I'm sure UW knew there would be a large amout of people who don't fully understand the concept of an Alpha and would create alot of noise on the forums.
<!--quoteo(post=1805150:date=Nov 10 2010, 06:58 PM:name=Live_Feed)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Live_Feed @ Nov 10 2010, 06:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1805150"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i think Black ops is having severe issues with dualcore CPUs. The people i know on Quad-core are having no issues.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1805162:date=Nov 10 2010, 04:19 PM:name=NurEinMensch)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NurEinMensch @ Nov 10 2010, 04:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1805162"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->An alpha is by definition an unfinished product. When people complain about an alpha being unfinished they are either trolls or idiots.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1805098:date=Nov 10 2010, 12:31 AM:name=Obibun)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Obibun @ Nov 10 2010, 12:31 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1805098"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's funny how anytime something negative is posted, it's a troll.
I was a member of these forums long before 98% of people here had ever even heard of the game. It's on the left people, take a look. Member number 490-something.
If anything, I should by rights be the most hardcore fan here. But I don't have my head up my ass about how miserable this development process is going. When you build a house, you lay a solid foundation before you install windows and doorknobs. This isn't a foundation, it might as well be Jenga.
I don't buy all of this "finding and organizing testers is such hard work" garbage either. Really? A game with such a tight-knit community following as NS2, and you can't find a few dozen dedicated people to test internally? Give me a break. Excuses, excuses, excuses.
Please feel sorry for us, everyone. We're trying our best. Sorry we took your money and gave you something that's been unplayable for the better part of three months. Sorry! Development is hard! Sympathize with us, please.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1805162:date=Nov 10 2010, 10:19 PM:name=NurEinMensch)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NurEinMensch @ Nov 10 2010, 10:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1805162"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->An alpha is by definition an unfinished product. When people complain about an alpha being unfinished they are either trolls or idiots.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> x3
My frustration, besides the fps issue - which thankfully is being worked on now :D~ - is this: <a href="http://getsatisfaction.com/unknownworlds/topics/buy_menu_causes_ui_elements_to_disappear" target="_blank">http://getsatisfaction.com/unknownworlds/t...ts_to_disappear</a>
Opening the buy menu for Kharaa (Aliens) causes the UI elements in "play" to disappear
going to sound like a dumb question, but how is that new patch downloaded through steam? I have the game set to update when updates are available, but i dont see anywhere that shows the build i am playing.
<!--quoteo(post=1805594:date=Nov 14 2010, 08:49 PM:name=SgtBarlow)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SgtBarlow @ Nov 14 2010, 08:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1805594"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Next build will tell you in game what version you are running<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Is the version number really listed in the console, I usually just see the spam of warnings when i open the console.
<!--quoteo(post=1805618:date=Nov 14 2010, 10:48 PM:name=IeptBarakat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IeptBarakat @ Nov 14 2010, 10:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1805618"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That's embarrassing, I accidentally replied to the thread without realizing it was made back in july.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> be wary of those links to old posts :p
Comments
its ugly l2think
I just bought CoD:Black Ops, and the game feels very much on par with the performance of NS2. Lots of jitter, laggy input...
Tried defragging, and I'm hoping that restarting my computer will help... but yeah. Soon NS2 might actually be out-performing a multi-million dollar game.
its ugly l2think<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Blind accusations of fanboyism
its ugly l2read
I just bought CoD:Black Ops, and the game feels very much on par with the performance of NS2. Lots of jitter, laggy input...
Tried defragging, and I'm hoping that restarting my computer will help... but yeah. Soon NS2 might actually be out-performing a multi-million dollar game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Really? I heard a heap of people saying how badly it ran but it seems to play just as well as MW2 did for me :S (Q6600 and HD5850, seemed to be steady at 50-90fps).
And I don't get the "fanboy" thing. I'm not really seeing any nose-to-anus action going on, just people trying to inform. Which is fair when people are invoking anger over things that are obvious (e.g. an alpha running badly, delays, bugs, etc etc) or people pointing fingers at things that have been explained prior in other threads.
And I don't get the "fanboy" thing. I'm not really seeing any nose-to-anus action going on, just people trying to inform. Which is fair when people are invoking anger over things that are obvious (e.g. an alpha running badly, delays, bugs, etc etc) or people pointing fingers at things that have been explained prior in other threads.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah I dunno. I just played through MW2, smooth as silk. I think my HDD might just be acting up. I also saw some postings suggesting changing BlackOps to be restricted to just one core to fix stutter (haven't tried it yet).
I've got a HD4870 and a Athlon 64x2 3.2Ghz... probably getting close to time to upgrade, but it's not so weak I'd expect to really see any issues in these games when I turn down the AA and such.
Not really a shame, most don't, they usually have a closed alpha or beta test from a select pool for this very reason.
I'm sure UW knew there would be a large amout of people who don't fully understand the concept of an Alpha and would create alot of noise on the forums.
its ugly l2think<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
no bro, it's not blind fanboyism!!! really!!!
you just don't <i>understand</i> the process, man! you don't! only the true fans understand!!
all some people do is complain.. they don't <i>get it</i> like true fans
rofl
I've been hearing the same thing.
Its BC2 all over again! :P
x2
I was a member of these forums long before 98% of people here had ever even heard of the game. It's on the left people, take a look. Member number 490-something.
If anything, I should by rights be the most hardcore fan here. But I don't have my head up my ass about how miserable this development process is going. When you build a house, you lay a solid foundation before you install windows and doorknobs. This isn't a foundation, it might as well be Jenga.
I don't buy all of this "finding and organizing testers is such hard work" garbage either. Really? A game with such a tight-knit community following as NS2, and you can't find a few dozen dedicated people to test internally? Give me a break. Excuses, excuses, excuses.
Please feel sorry for us, everyone. We're trying our best. Sorry we took your money and gave you something that's been unplayable for the better part of three months. Sorry! Development is hard! Sympathize with us, please.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I couldn't agree more. Nice post.
x3
<a href="http://getsatisfaction.com/unknownworlds/topics/buy_menu_causes_ui_elements_to_disappear" target="_blank">http://getsatisfaction.com/unknownworlds/t...ts_to_disappear</a>
Opening the buy menu for Kharaa (Aliens) causes the UI elements in "play" to disappear
I think you can probably logic out the answer to that question based on past experience ;)
You should know by now that UWE is on Valve time. ;)
Maybe when they announced "tomorrow" that they meant 2+ days after that twitter announcement i.e. Friday, Saturday... Monday etc. :P
k great, thank you
COUGH <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=110129&hl=" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...=110129&hl=</a> COUGH
That's embarrassing, I accidentally replied to the thread without realizing it was made back in july.
<!--quoteo(post=1805618:date=Nov 14 2010, 10:48 PM:name=IeptBarakat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IeptBarakat @ Nov 14 2010, 10:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1805618"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That's embarrassing, I accidentally replied to the thread without realizing it was made back in july.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
be wary of those links to old posts :p