FPS?
Rorthic
Join Date: 2003-07-14 Member: 18163Members
Join Date: 2003-07-14 Member: 18163Members
<div class="IPBDescription">frames per second</div>Currently NS2 is unplayable for me, rubberbanding/lag what ever you want to call it. But im thinking its my system, its just as bad with others as it is when i create my own game. Netstats gives me 150-250 ms and my FPS is between 2 and 5, highes ive seen is 5.
2 questions:
1) am i wong about it being my system or is it this bad for all?
2) any suggestion to increase performce for my system?
specs (should work?)
running win xp sp3
amd athlon 64 x2 dual core 4200+ (2.21 GHz)
2Gb ram
Geforce 7600gs 512mb
all drivers updated last week
set display options in ns, not running windowed and to lowest quality, 1024x768
2 questions:
1) am i wong about it being my system or is it this bad for all?
2) any suggestion to increase performce for my system?
specs (should work?)
running win xp sp3
amd athlon 64 x2 dual core 4200+ (2.21 GHz)
2Gb ram
Geforce 7600gs 512mb
all drivers updated last week
set display options in ns, not running windowed and to lowest quality, 1024x768
Comments
The game isn't optimized yet.
The gpu might not get him as far though.
But upgrading your system for an alpha is not really the best reason. Chances are that it will run way better when finished.
Right now I get about 15-40fps in an 8 man server playing at 1680x1050 high details, with a Core 2 E8400 @ 3.9Ghz, 4GB RAM, and a Radeon 4850. You're probably going to want something of similar power, if not better.
My recommendation would be to get a cheap AMD Phenom/Athlon II X4 cpu and probably something like a Radeon 5770. You can get a good Athlon II X4 for around $90-100, or a Phenom II X4 for about $130. A solid motherboard is about $100, and the video card about $150. Or, if you wanted to get my exact card, that's probably about $90 right now and fairly close in performance.
There's also the used market as well, where I'm sure you could shave off another 20% in price.
I'm not recommending this just for NS2, of course, but for if you're a gamer in general. You'll thank yourself if you can afford to do it.
The gpu might not get him as far though.
But upgrading your system for an alpha is not really the best reason. Chances are that it will run way better when finished.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ignorance is bliss (for people who read it :D)
Yeah :P
MSI 870 mobo = $70
AMD athlon x2 = $62
Crucial DDR3 ram 2x1g = $47
Gigabyte radeon 4850 = $100
Rosewill 450w PSU = $40
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I went ahead and googled "bliss" (didnt know what it meant).
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliss" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliss</a>
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I agree that after my post I felt a profound satisfaction, but it did get disturbed by gain (disturbance was more satisfaction) as someone understood my joke :D.
Or in other words, you just fed the troll XD.
Atleast somewhat ontopic:
I checked my comp, it is slightly better but runs way better than 5 fps (until srv has 12 players (altough most disconnected, tab menu still says so)).
Intel® Core2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz
3,00 GB ram
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
win 7 - 32 bit
Unless you're made of money, wait it out before upgrading. I've got a worse spec machine and I'll be waiting until beta at the very earliest before I go upgrading.
I checked my comp, it is slightly better but runs way better than 5 fps (until srv has 12 players (altough most disconnected, tab menu still says so)).
Intel® Core2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz
3,00 GB ram
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
win 7 - 32 bit<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
this is pretty much what i wanted to know, a compaireable machine can run the game, which means mine is probably just bogged down. Now i just need to figure out the best way to free up the resources i do have.
And ya i know my systems old, i gave up PC gameing about 2 years ago but had to come back for ns2 8)
Unless you're made of money, wait it out before upgrading. I've got a worse spec machine and I'll be waiting until beta at the very earliest before I go upgrading.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How can you say his hardware is faulty? It's old and slow, plain and simple.
Sure, it's a little old, but considering the minimum specs UWE are aiming for, somewhere down the line the engine will (hopefully) be optimized enough to get reasonable fps on his rig. I'm not quite sure the current min specs will be reached, but still, I remain optimist that such a rig will eventually run NS2 just fine (maybe comparable to Source performance-wise).
And ya i know my systems old, i gave up PC gameing about 2 years ago but had to come back for ns2 8)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Jigga wha?
Feha's PC is significantly better than yours.
His CPU has 4 times the L2 cache of yours and 400 more MHz. His video card is an entire generation and 2 performance tiers higher than yours. He has another GB of RAM. And he's running a better OS (debatable).
This has nothing to do with the topic I was discussing.
Also, those minimum specs are unreasonable and will not run NS2. As the game gets closer to release, they will be updated to be much more realistic.
Feha's PC is significantly better than yours.
His CPU has 4 times the L2 cache of yours and 400 more MHz. His video card is an entire generation and 2 performance tiers higher than yours. He has another GB of RAM. And he's running a better OS (debatable).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You are right :O.
I didnt really go look what stats his computer had, just figured a quad core should be kind of as good (even if it is old) as a duo core.
Half my RAM is hogged even when I do not play any games (my source being the g19 keyboard's lcd display :P), because I got so much running at same time (and doesnt win 7 need more ram than xp?). So I think it is atleast comparable in that aspect.
But as this is a fps issue I think the video card might be the largest factor, and you are right about it being superior. I did not really think about that part :P.
Maybe I should google more before posting ;).
EDIT:
Just realised my computer is 2 year old aswell :)
I bought it shortly after mass effect was released because my old computer was so bad it couldnt run it.
I didnt really go look what stats his computer had, just figured a quad core should be kind of as good (even if it is old) as a duo core.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ermm... according to your posts, your both running dual cores.
Either way, upgrading to a quad would not help your situation much at all.
Maybe one day it will be optimized to heck and run at those min specs! It's an Alpha, we all have crummy performance.
They are aiming for a goal. I hope they reach it. Until then, just wait.
They are aiming for a goal. I hope they reach it. Until then, just wait.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Exactly. You don't post min specs for the game pre-release. You post them for what you try to develop the engine to match.
EDIT: Actually, you shouldn't post min specs at all till release.
Also, min specs DO NOT equal recommended specs. Huge difference.
Min specs says "this game will run on these specs and nothing lower possible.
They are aiming for a goal. I hope they reach it. Until then, just wait.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I fully understand that it is an alpha. However, I have been a part of many alpha and beta tests before, and I can tell you with certainty, that no modern game with this feature set can run on a P3 1.2Ghz processor, because that's the only CPU, besides an old AMD Athlon T-bird, that came in 1.2Ghz varieties.
Don't get me wrong, I think the game will likely be quite efficient when finished optimizing, and will run great on most machines, but the minimum specs just simply won't work. Just like most games, you'll be wanting to at least mimic the recommended specs, which I think are either going to be a high end P4 w/HT or a low end dual core, and then perhaps an 8800 series or 38xx series class GPU. Most gamers these days will have at least that.
1. Three years' games testing experience for both a publisher and now PC FPS developer, currently testing an engine that has many similarities with that of NS2
2. My system at home is far inferior to his (except for RAM) and NS2 for me runs at a higher framerate
1. Three years' games testing experience for both a publisher and now PC FPS developer, currently testing an engine that has many similarities with that of NS2
2. My system at home is far inferior to his (except for RAM) and NS2 for me runs at a higher framerate<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can give you a little for #1, but #2 is so generic it can't even apply. What system? What OS? What resolution? What map, server, player count? Etc. Too many variables to say "my crappier machine runs better than his." I know what the performance of that era of machine has, and it's very in line with what he's getting.
i7 core 960 3.2 / 6GB Dominator RAM / SSD / 2x Radeon 5970 crossfire. I can play HL2 Maxed out at 2560x1600 with over 150 FPS. It plays BC2 maxed out at 2560x1600 with FPS bouncing between 100-160.
I saved for two years for my rig and although its not THE fastest setup it's pretty high end.
I can't play NS2 at 2560x1600 MAXED although it loads its unplayable. I've dropped to 1680x1050 MAXED and It's still not what I'd consider playable with max of 60 fps but hovering around the 20-40 mark most of the time which I don't think justifies my system.
I think Unknown worlds are going to work on the GFX compatibility issues near beta (Fingers crossed). I don't think many games studies would even dare release a game at this stage due to the massive issues involved with the huge variety of cards avaliable for pc setups.
Fear not I think we just got given a game far too early and we are expexting a beta/retail standard. I don't know about you guys but im gonna be playing other games until maybe christmas time then coming back to NS2.
Good things come to those who wait.
i7 core 960 3.2 / 6GB Dominator RAM / SSD / 2x Radeon 5970 crossfire. I can play HL2 Maxed out at 2560x1600 with over 150 FPS. It plays BC2 maxed out at 2560x1600 with FPS bouncing between 100-160.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol, You blew over $1200 on video cards to only run at 2560x1600?
At that resolution you are <b>never</b> going to use the power of those 2 cards in xfire...
That rig needs to be running at least 3 monitors in Eyefinity (7680x1600) to make it justifiable. Otherwise you've totally wasted your money on 2 5970's, should have just got 5870's.