My flatmate and I have been playing together on our local server to get a nice ping but whenever we've tried to venture out from our LANning cave to play with others the pings have been diiiiiiiire.
I know you can bring up the server browser but I heard you can only connect to servers that ran some special commands or changed some variables or whatever :o
So what kind of tricks ensure a server with a playable ping?
<!--quoteo(post=1694126:date=Nov 22 2008, 05:21 PM:name=Geminosity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Geminosity @ Nov 22 2008, 05:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694126"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hey guys, how do you get a decent game going?
My flatmate and I have been playing together on our local server to get a nice ping but whenever we've tried to venture out from our LANning cave to play with others the pings have been diiiiiiiire.
I know you can bring up the server browser but I heard you can only connect to servers that ran some special commands or changed some variables or whatever :o
So what kind of tricks ensure a server with a playable ping?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> You could join like every group and check out each Steam group server individually until you find one with good ping. Or go play TS Zombies or something.
<!--quoteo(post=1694124:date=Nov 22 2008, 04:42 PM:name=6john)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(6john @ Nov 22 2008, 04:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694124"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i added inf0rcer on steam friends. at least i think i did, at least i added someone named agro.
my page is linked in my sig, so go ahead and add me on there and we can get into a game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just add a few friends from various groups to Steam and then play a game with them. Thanks to the NS Off-Topic group and the Goon4Dead group I rarely play a game with random people.
<!--quoteo(post=1694136:date=Nov 23 2008, 01:36 AM:name=Geminosity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Geminosity @ Nov 23 2008, 01:36 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694136"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->huh? I'm not worried about strangers or whatever Jimmeh, it was the ping that was my concern :3<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh right, the ping's gonna be rubbish with the match-making system generally. Openserverbrowser in the console seems to work with any server (I've never had a problem with it, it always shows lots of servers so I don't know what this console command thing is) but it's generally harder to get a full decent game going without the lobby system.
<!--quoteo(post=1694162:date=Nov 23 2008, 05:32 PM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crispy @ Nov 23 2008, 05:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694162"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->'Local Server' = suckage 'Dedicated Server' = a bit of a wait, but worth it
You'll get quite a few timeouts looking for dedicated servers and every time it will ask if you want to create a Local Server instead. Don't.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have a very good experience of local servers thank-you-very-much. Even had a versus on my own machine with 8 players and working million times more dandy then any dedicated shared-connection-with-50-other-dedicated-servers suckage.
<!--quoteo(post=1694163:date=Nov 23 2008, 04:36 PM:name=Svenpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Svenpa @ Nov 23 2008, 04:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694163"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have a very good experience of local servers thank-you-very-much. Even had a versus on my own machine with 8 players and working million times more dandy then any dedicated shared-connection-with-50-other-dedicated-servers suckage.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Erm... Wouldn't it stand to reason you'd get a good local game if you were the one who hosted it?
Besides, Swedes have good connections with a decent upload, for anyone else in Europe it's a bit crap.
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited November 2008
Ah the wonders of a new driver <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
I was getting annoyed with the 30-40fps sometimes in areas where there was a lot of shiny stuff in L4D, now with the new driver I'm able to attain 80-100fps. Shootn baddies has just gotten better
[edit]
Teenage muntant ninja zombies from the toilet?
happened two times this time, in a row (3 seconds between them)... FRIKKING AI DIR!!!
Spend 10 seconds waiting for "some reason" enter spawn mode Wait until the survivors move out Wait for an ambush spot. Ambush. Die instantly. Wait.....
..........I feel like I'm at a free clinic as infected
<!--quoteo(post=1694281:date=Nov 25 2008, 12:22 AM:name=CommunistWithAGun)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CommunistWithAGun @ Nov 25 2008, 12:22 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694281"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->VS mode is an exercise in frustration as infected
Join.
Spend 10 seconds waiting for "some reason" enter spawn mode Wait until the survivors move out Wait for an ambush spot. Ambush. Die instantly. Wait..... ..........I feel like I'm at a free clinic as infected<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're doing it wrong. You <b>need</b> all 4 infected to attack at once, preferably when the survivors are distracted. Get the boomer to attack, vomit on them then explode. The incoming horde will distract them enough for the rest to do some serious damage before you die. Repeat.
EDIT:
While I'm here;
My mate's planning on doing a campaign based in a mansion (using the RE mansion as "inspiration") and needs a campaign title/tag line. Anyone got any suggestions?
<a href="http://xs233.xs.to/xs233/08481/l4dposterv2820.jpg" target="_blank">This</a> is the poster I've made so far, the current title/tag line are just place holders until someone comes up with something better (he wanted "Something Manor" as the title but if you have any better suggestions please feel free).
X_StickmanNot good enough for a custom title.Join Date: 2003-04-15Member: 15533Members, Constellation
edited November 2008
It's too late to turn on the pun section of my brain (nearly 2am! I have a class in 6 hours! UH OH!) but part of my mind is screaming "something about manor sounding like manner".
I mean, zombies have no manners... right?
Right.
Also, manors have a lot of rooms. Rooms rhymes with tombs. So you could have like:
Stickman, I love the tagline. Seriously, it's the best anyone's come up with so far and it goes really well so thank you. If he bothers using it, and the campaign actually gets finished, you'll get credit.
<!--quoteo(post=1694296:date=Nov 25 2008, 01:51 AM:name=CommunistWithAGun)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CommunistWithAGun @ Nov 25 2008, 01:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694296"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->well, vs mode to me has failed miserably, because whenever I've tried co-ordinating ive received nothing but insults and "shut up"
All for saying "hey guys lets co-operate and do this.."<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm guessing you're playing with random people? The only advice I can give is play with at least a couple of people you know on your team as it's much more fun and coordinated.
My mate's planning on doing a campaign based in a mansion (using the RE mansion as "inspiration") and needs a campaign title/tag line. Anyone got any suggestions?
<a href="http://xs233.xs.to/xs233/08481/l4dposterv2820.jpg" target="_blank">This</a> is the poster I've made so far, the current title/tag line are just place holders until someone comes up with something better (he wanted "Something Manor" as the title but if you have any better suggestions please feel free).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
expiring estate
The lease isn't the only thing who's time is up or The lease isn't the only thing about to end
<!--quoteo(post=1694296:date=Nov 24 2008, 08:51 PM:name=CommunistWithAGun)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CommunistWithAGun @ Nov 24 2008, 08:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694296"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->well, vs mode to me has failed miserably, because whenever I've tried co-ordinating ive received nothing but insults and "shut up"
All for saying "hey guys lets co-operate and do this.."<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you're playing with pubbers, you only really have control when you're the boomer.
The boomer is the key to the whole infected side. Always spawn infront of the survivors and as close as possible (assuming your team is ready). The boomer can create chaos, which your hunters and smokers should be able to play off of.
<!--quoteo(post=1694310:date=Nov 25 2008, 01:32 AM:name=spellman23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(spellman23 @ Nov 25 2008, 01:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694310"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Die in a fire Disco<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What he said. WTF DID I LISTEN TOO <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" />
<!--quoteo(post=1694165:date=Nov 23 2008, 05:06 PM:name=sherpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sherpa @ Nov 23 2008, 05:06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694165"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Erm... Wouldn't it stand to reason you'd get a good local game if you were the one who hosted it?
Besides, Swedes have good connections with a decent upload, for anyone else in Europe it's a bit crap.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Exactly.
The internet infrastructure in Sweden is one of the best in the world, plus it has a fairly low population density, which means less people sharing your gorgeous bandwidth! For everyone else you can expect much lower reliability with Local Servers.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->My mate's planning on doing a campaign based in a mansion (using the RE mansion as "inspiration") and needs a campaign title/tag line. Anyone got any suggestions?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> <b>Mortisbury Manor</b> <i>Still space for four more in the family crypt</i>
But I quite like the 90 rooms, 90 tombs suggestion, too.
<b>Mortisbury Manor</b> <i>Ninety rooms to stay in, ninety tombs to leave in</i> <i>Stay in one of ninety rooms, leave in one of ninety tombs</i>
(leave/die?)
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I have to say, playing Infected is incredibly difficult against competant players. Its annoying that you really need to leave spawning until the very last moment because the Infected are so damn loud. It's like trying to drop a Hive, you only egg at the last moment when you already have the res.
Boomers are really difficult to play as and they are by far the most crucial class. You spawn too early and the team has a heads-up and will keep their distance until they work out where you're positioned. It seems to be a question of how little time you can give them between spawning and vomiting as as to how successful you'll be.
Also, how long does it take for a Boomer to recharge his vomit, I couldn't see anything on the HUD like the Hunter has for his pounce and the Smoker for his tongue.
Oh, and melee vs. Hunter is effing lame. And there's little chance of them removing it because it's tied to an achievement. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
<!--quoteo(post=1694343:date=Nov 25 2008, 07:42 AM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crispy @ Nov 25 2008, 07:42 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694343"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also, how long does it take for a Boomer to recharge his vomit, I couldn't see anything on the HUD like the Hunter has for his pounce and the Smoker for his tongue.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> ages. if you miss with your vomit you might as well charge in and hope to explode on a survivor and respawn before your vomit would be charged again. (you can see the circle fill up in the lower right corner)
My mate's planning on doing a campaign based in a mansion (using the RE mansion as "inspiration") and needs a campaign title/tag line. Anyone got any suggestions?
<a href="http://xs233.xs.to/xs233/08481/l4dposterv2820.jpg" target="_blank">This</a> is the poster I've made so far, the current title/tag line are just place holders until someone comes up with something better (he wanted "Something Manor" as the title but if you have any better suggestions please feel free).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Miltov Family Manor
When god closes a door, a zombie opens a window ------------------------------------------------------------
Saint Richard Manor
Knock knock, who's there? Zombie Apocalypse (ZA who?) ------------------------------------------------------------
Graven Manor
1. Time to paint some walls (and we are all out of paint) 2. Dig your grave but mind the flowers 3. Say your prayers and enter 4. From the ashes into the fire(place) 5. Dead/Bad butler service
<!--quoteo(post=1694344:date=Nov 25 2008, 02:17 PM:name=Sprengi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sprengi @ Nov 25 2008, 02:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694344"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->ages. if you miss with your vomit you might as well charge in and hope to explode on a survivor and respawn before your vomit would be charged again. (you can see the circle fill up in the lower right corner)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Speaking of which, I believe barfing then staying alive just long enough only to explode gall over them will cause a second rush for that much more effect, but I've only seen it twice, so I'm not 100% sure.
Comments
my page is linked in my sig, so go ahead and add me on there and we can get into a game.
My flatmate and I have been playing together on our local server to get a nice ping but whenever we've tried to venture out from our LANning cave to play with others the pings have been diiiiiiiire.
I know you can bring up the server browser but I heard you can only connect to servers that ran some special commands or changed some variables or whatever :o
So what kind of tricks ensure a server with a playable ping?
My flatmate and I have been playing together on our local server to get a nice ping but whenever we've tried to venture out from our LANning cave to play with others the pings have been diiiiiiiire.
I know you can bring up the server browser but I heard you can only connect to servers that ran some special commands or changed some variables or whatever :o
So what kind of tricks ensure a server with a playable ping?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You could join like every group and check out each Steam group server individually until you find one with good ping. Or go play TS Zombies or something.
my page is linked in my sig, so go ahead and add me on there and we can get into a game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I didn't get an add request so I just added you.
<a href="http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197961541230/" target="_blank"><img src="http://steamcommunity.com/public/images/skin_1/iconAddFriend.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" /> <!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><b>Add me!</b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></a>
just a note: I'm east coast.
Just add a few friends from various groups to Steam and then play a game with them. Thanks to the NS Off-Topic group and the Goon4Dead group I rarely play a game with random people.
Oh right, the ping's gonna be rubbish with the match-making system generally. Openserverbrowser in the console seems to work with any server (I've never had a problem with it, it always shows lots of servers so I don't know what this console command thing is) but it's generally harder to get a full decent game going without the lobby system.
'Dedicated Server' = a bit of a wait, but worth it
You'll get quite a few timeouts looking for dedicated servers and every time it will ask if you want to create a Local Server instead. Don't.
'Dedicated Server' = a bit of a wait, but worth it
You'll get quite a few timeouts looking for dedicated servers and every time it will ask if you want to create a Local Server instead. Don't.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have a very good experience of local servers thank-you-very-much. Even had a versus on my own machine with 8 players and working million times more dandy then any dedicated shared-connection-with-50-other-dedicated-servers suckage.
Erm... Wouldn't it stand to reason you'd get a good local game if you were the one who hosted it?
Besides, Swedes have good connections with a decent upload, for anyone else in Europe it's a bit crap.
Well, the worlds fastest connection was made in Sweden so it's only fair we get decent internet spread all over.
I was getting annoyed with the 30-40fps sometimes in areas where there was a lot of shiny stuff in L4D, now with the new driver I'm able to attain 80-100fps. Shootn baddies has just gotten better
[edit]
Teenage muntant ninja zombies from the toilet?
happened two times this time, in a row (3 seconds between them)... FRIKKING AI DIR!!!
Join.
Spend 10 seconds waiting for "some reason"
enter spawn mode
Wait until the survivors move out
Wait for an ambush spot.
Ambush.
Die instantly.
Wait.....
..........I feel like I'm at a free clinic as infected
Join.
Spend 10 seconds waiting for "some reason"
enter spawn mode
Wait until the survivors move out
Wait for an ambush spot.
Ambush.
Die instantly.
Wait.....
..........I feel like I'm at a free clinic as infected<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're doing it wrong. You <b>need</b> all 4 infected to attack at once, preferably when the survivors are distracted. Get the boomer to attack, vomit on them then explode. The incoming horde will distract them enough for the rest to do some serious damage before you die. Repeat.
EDIT:
While I'm here;
My mate's planning on doing a campaign based in a mansion (using the RE mansion as "inspiration") and needs a campaign title/tag line. Anyone got any suggestions?
<a href="http://xs233.xs.to/xs233/08481/l4dposterv2820.jpg" target="_blank">This</a> is the poster I've made so far, the current title/tag line are just place holders until someone comes up with something better (he wanted "Something Manor" as the title but if you have any better suggestions please feel free).
I mean, zombies have no manners... right?
Right.
Also, manors have a lot of rooms. Rooms rhymes with tombs. So you could have like:
"It had 90 rooms. They made it 90 <i>tombs</i>."
Ok I'm going to sleep now.
All for saying "hey guys lets co-operate and do this.."
<!--quoteo(post=1694296:date=Nov 25 2008, 01:51 AM:name=CommunistWithAGun)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CommunistWithAGun @ Nov 25 2008, 01:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694296"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->well, vs mode to me has failed miserably, because whenever I've tried co-ordinating ive received nothing but insults and "shut up"
All for saying "hey guys lets co-operate and do this.."<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm guessing you're playing with random people? The only advice I can give is play with at least a couple of people you know on your team as it's much more fun and coordinated.
My mate's planning on doing a campaign based in a mansion (using the RE mansion as "inspiration") and needs a campaign title/tag line. Anyone got any suggestions?
<a href="http://xs233.xs.to/xs233/08481/l4dposterv2820.jpg" target="_blank">This</a> is the poster I've made so far, the current title/tag line are just place holders until someone comes up with something better (he wanted "Something Manor" as the title but if you have any better suggestions please feel free).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
expiring estate
The lease isn't the only thing who's time is up
or
The lease isn't the only thing about to end
All for saying "hey guys lets co-operate and do this.."<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you're playing with pubbers, you only really have control when you're the boomer.
The boomer is the key to the whole infected side. Always spawn infront of the survivors and as close as possible (assuming your team is ready). The boomer can create chaos, which your hunters and smokers should be able to play off of.
This is so damn hilarious.
What he said.
WTF DID I LISTEN TOO <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" />
Yah, Disco wins at the internet.
Well played.
Besides, Swedes have good connections with a decent upload, for anyone else in Europe it's a bit crap.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Exactly.
The internet infrastructure in Sweden is one of the best in the world, plus it has a fairly low population density, which means less people sharing your gorgeous bandwidth! For everyone else you can expect much lower reliability with Local Servers.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->My mate's planning on doing a campaign based in a mansion (using the RE mansion as "inspiration") and needs a campaign title/tag line. Anyone got any suggestions?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Mortisbury Manor</b>
<i>Still space for four more in the family crypt</i>
But I quite like the 90 rooms, 90 tombs suggestion, too.
<b>Mortisbury Manor</b>
<i>Ninety rooms to stay in, ninety tombs to leave in</i>
<i>Stay in one of ninety rooms, leave in one of ninety tombs</i>
(leave/die?)
---
I have to say, playing Infected is incredibly difficult against competant players. Its annoying that you really need to leave spawning until the very last moment because the Infected are so damn loud. It's like trying to drop a Hive, you only egg at the last moment when you already have the res.
Boomers are really difficult to play as and they are by far the most crucial class. You spawn too early and the team has a heads-up and will keep their distance until they work out where you're positioned. It seems to be a question of how little time you can give them between spawning and vomiting as as to how successful you'll be.
Also, how long does it take for a Boomer to recharge his vomit, I couldn't see anything on the HUD like the Hunter has for his pounce and the Smoker for his tongue.
Oh, and melee vs. Hunter is effing lame. And there's little chance of them removing it because it's tied to an achievement. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
ages. if you miss with your vomit you might as well charge in and hope to explode on a survivor and respawn before your vomit would be charged again. (you can see the circle fill up in the lower right corner)
My mate's planning on doing a campaign based in a mansion (using the RE mansion as "inspiration") and needs a campaign title/tag line. Anyone got any suggestions?
<a href="http://xs233.xs.to/xs233/08481/l4dposterv2820.jpg" target="_blank">This</a> is the poster I've made so far, the current title/tag line are just place holders until someone comes up with something better (he wanted "Something Manor" as the title but if you have any better suggestions please feel free).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Miltov Family Manor
When god closes a door, a zombie opens a window
------------------------------------------------------------
Saint Richard Manor
Knock knock, who's there? Zombie Apocalypse (ZA who?)
------------------------------------------------------------
Graven Manor
1. Time to paint some walls (and we are all out of paint)
2. Dig your grave but mind the flowers
3. Say your prayers and enter
4. From the ashes into the fire(place)
5. Dead/Bad butler service
also bind del "kill"