Creative people... input please :D

napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
Hey all.

Well, the time has come. I've finished university, I've racked up more dept than I know what to do with, and my car has just broken down.

So, what am I doing to celebrate this glorious state of affairs? None other than going self-employed as a web designer.

Been doing it for a few years now but nothing serious - gonna make ago of it.

But, one major problem - I'm terrible at being creative (work with a friend who does all the designing - am just a code monkey myself). I need a name for the business! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

If any one has any thoughts, throw them in. All suggestions welcomed. Winner gets a choice of a cookie, a hug, webspace, or something random!
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  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    I think you're going about this the wrong way. Prospective clients are going to ask you where you got your name. You should fashion it almost like you would a cover letter or resume goal statement. Also it should describe what you do intuitively so if you put it on a poster/banner ad, people won't go to your site expecting pork chops when you're selling web design.

    If you're a hard worker willing to go the extra mile pick something like "Midnight/3 AM Oil Web Design".

    It sounds cheesy, but you really have to put yourself out there and sell yourself. You may say you don't think you're creative, but you have to be somewhat to get this far and being willing to go into business for yourself.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    Cookie Factory!
    Cookie Jar!
    Catnip Creations!

    wait... what do your websites look like anyhoo? :o
  • RetalesRetales Panigg cultist Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19180Members
    Bomblebeehive!
    <img src="http://koti.mbnet.fi/retales/bomblebee.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    Waaait... I'm not creative
  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    WMD , Webs Most Designed
    CaC , Color and Code
    HaC , HC , Hammer and Cursor
    Dreamcreaver

    locallyunscene has the best suggestion though. Just look at apple, they got it by mistake and now it's recognized globally partly thanks to a very common fruit just about everyone knows about.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    edited November 2008
    I like "Midnight Oil Design". Logo could be the name with one of those old candles on a plate thing with a handle....

    Somethin like this:
    <img src="http://www.earthstarshop.co.uk/images/brass%20taper%20candle%20holder.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    but with a lit candle and probably more cartoony/logoy (vector gfx)
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    edited November 2008
    *really nice... no* --Comprox
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    edited November 2008
    Well it needs to be unique and memorable. It could be an adaptation of your name, or the location of your offices, or something a random client is going to remember. Self-employed webdesign I'm guessing relies massively on customers sending more business your way. If they can't remember your name off the top of your head you're not going to do well.

    Also think about a name that is going to be fairly unique to begin with on Google. Sure you can pay to boost its Google rating, but you can save a lot of money if its unique to begin with.

    Try misspellings of words that still read and sound the same and stick in your head, or just made-up words that sound cool.

    Whatever name you choose, it's worth tacking on -Web Design to the end of your business name to improve search results as well.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    edited November 2008
    I wouldn't use mispellings personally. It either makes you look incompetent or tacky.
    Think about... what was your reaction to games and the like that started using Z instead of S? (Kidz, Babiez, Petz) =P

    Your name is your character as far as people who've never worked with you will know. If you choose something a bit more dry sounding like your name it'll make you sound more business like and reliable though perhaps not very creative (though this depends on your name... some people's names just scream 'artist' :3 ). Something more out there will inevitably make you look more artsy and cool but they might not take you as seriously.

    Truth is, the name you're after will depend on both what kind of work you want to do and what kind of clients you're after.
    That's part of why I asked what your sites would look like :3
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    My only fear with appending "web design" onto the company's name is that then you limit yourself.

    I would think if you're doing web design you wouldn't be opposed to logo designing... Then again, you said you're not the artistic one so maybe we should be talking about this from the other direction. Maybe you shouldn't be limiting yourself to just website design and ignoring web programming.

    Go check out some freelance sites and see what listings they have. I did freelance two years ago and it was quite the profitable job once I got started.
  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1694108:date=Nov 22 2008, 10:20 AM:name=SentrySteve)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SentrySteve @ Nov 22 2008, 10:20 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694108"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Anal Orbital<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This one
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    Thanks for the responses - been away for the weekend with the gf so apologies for slow reply.

    Agreed that I don't want to use something with spelling mistake - can sometimes work really well (eg Kongregate.com) but more often than not just looks like you forgot to spellcheck when filling in the boxes or something.

    @Psyke~ in my head, saying "web design" means all that it encompasses - programming and all. So yeah, having -Web Design on the end of the name could work, but also has the disadvantage of the limitation.

    I was thinking an alternative ending could be "Studio", "System(s)" or something similar. Opens up the generality while maintaining a level of professionalism.

    Target audience (at least to begin with) is mostly small business owners - kind of people who run a shop but don't have a site - they don't want anything too fancy or confusing - just something online so they can be found on google. However, likelyhood is over time this will lead to bigger jobs which we can also accomodate.

    About the only thing I won't touch (and I know it's potentially cutting out a lot of business) is webshops. Until the business gets registered as a Limited (which won't be for at least a year or so) then if anything goes wrong, I'm personally liable. Too many risks involved with handling other peoples sensitive data (addresses + credit card details). Happy to do it utalising something like Paypal, but initially, just don't want that kind of info being involved.

    Anyhoo - got to get back to work - got a few jobs to do already (just trading under my own name at the moment) - thanks again for the help - will have to go back to the drawing board with this.

    And Anal Orbital - worst. idea. ever. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    edited November 2008
    <!--quoteo(post=1694099:date=Nov 22 2008, 01:02 PM:name=Geminosity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Geminosity @ Nov 22 2008, 01:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694099"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I wouldn't use mispellings personally. It either makes you look incompetent or tacky.
    Think about... what was your reaction to games and the like that started using Z instead of S? (Kidz, Babiez, Petz) =P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I said use misspellings that sound the same. Misspellings ending in Z make you sound like an idiot, clearly.

    Some examples of brands with either mispellings or made up words that work well:

    <b>- Google</b> (now an accepted verb in the Oxford English Dictionary)
    - <b>Ariel</b> (UK washing liquid)
    - <b>Persil</b> (UK washing liquid)
    <b>- Accenture
    - Coca-Cola</b> (the word 'cola' may have originated from the kola nuts that were originally used as the source of caffeine)
    - <b>Intel</b> (not made up, but a shortened form of a word)
    - <b>Cisco</b>
    - <b>CitiGroup</b>
    - <b>Pepsi</b> (Caleb Bradham possibly bought the name "Pep Kola" from a local competitor and changed it to Pepsi-Cola, or Pepsi comes from the Greek word "pepse" (πέψη), which is a medical term, describing the food dissolving process within one's stomach. Dyspepsia is also a medical term describes a problem with one's stomach to dissolve foods properly.)
    - <b>IKEA</b> (an acronym comprising the initials of the founder's name (Ingvar Kamprad), the farm where he grew up (Elmtaryd), and his home county (Agunnaryd, in Småland, South Sweden))
    <b>- 3com
    - Xerox</b>
    - <b>Adidas</b> (from the name of the founder)
    - <b>Reebok</b> (from the Afrikaans spelling of rhebok, a type of African antelope or gazelle)

    Interesting reading:
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_company_name_etymologies" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compa...ame_etymologies</a>

    Some bizarrely named brands that still do well because they are memorable. The definition of <b>Yahoo</b> has very negative connotations: member of a race of brutes in <i>Gulliver's Travels</i> by Jonathan Swift; a person who is not very intelligent or interested in culture [syn: yokel]!
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    I didn't say anything about made up words/names silly, I was against mispellings. If you take an existing word that's uncommon in usage and re-jig it so it's aesthetically pleasing that's more like making a new word to me (e.g. from your list Reebok).

    Saying 'mispell' doesn't quite get across what you meant if you ask me :p
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    edited November 2008
    <!--quoteo(post=1694175:date=Nov 23 2008, 01:48 PM:name=Geminosity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Geminosity @ Nov 23 2008, 01:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694175"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I didn't say anything about made up words/names silly, I was against mispellings. If you take an existing word that's uncommon in usage and re-jig it so it's aesthetically pleasing that's more like making a new word to me (e.g. from your list Reebok).

    Saying 'mispell' doesn't quite get across what you meant if you ask me <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's all about the stylish misspellings. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1694204:date=Nov 23 2008, 08:38 PM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Psyke @ Nov 23 2008, 08:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694204"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's all about the stylish misspellings. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Anel Orbitale
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1694206:date=Nov 23 2008, 10:27 PM:name=SentrySteve)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SentrySteve @ Nov 23 2008, 10:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694206"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Anel Orbitale<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Haha good example.
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    WIGNIB

    "What? I Got the Name from Internet Board"
  • ConfusedConfused Wait. What? Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12904Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester
    it's really too bad some one else has already taken:
    <img src="http://www.mustacheinc.com/images/logo.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    think of something similar, you want to be short sweet and memorable.
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    aaah mustache. what a name..

    Goatie maybe ¬.¬
  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    edited November 2008
    <!--quoteo(post=1694239:date=Nov 24 2008, 09:26 AM:name=napi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(napi @ Nov 24 2008, 09:26 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694239"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->aaah mustache. what a name..

    Goatie maybe ¬.¬<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You could have a picture of a goat with a goatee.

    Evil Goatee Productions
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1694252:date=Nov 24 2008, 03:54 PM:name=locallyunscene)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(locallyunscene @ Nov 24 2008, 03:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694252"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You could have a picture of a goat with a goatee.

    Evil Goatee Productions<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    or a picture of a goat wearing a t-shirt (a goatee)
  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1694273:date=Nov 24 2008, 06:30 PM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Psyke @ Nov 24 2008, 06:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694273"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->or a picture of a goat wearing a t-shirt (a goatee)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    or you could be completely self-referential and have a goat wearing a tee-shirt with a goatee sporting goat on it.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1694275:date=Nov 24 2008, 06:49 PM:name=locallyunscene)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(locallyunscene @ Nov 24 2008, 06:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694275"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->or you could be completely self-referential and have a goat wearing a tee-shirt with a goatee sporting goat on it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    we have a winner!!
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    When you said Mustache, it made me think of 'Monocle', but that is already a company too! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/marine.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::marine::" border="0" alt="marine.gif" />
  • A_Boojum_SnarkA_Boojum_Snark Join Date: 2003-09-07 Member: 20628Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1694342:date=Nov 25 2008, 06:22 AM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crispy @ Nov 25 2008, 06:22 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694342"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->When you said Mustache, it made me think of 'Monocle', but that is already a company too! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/marine.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::marine::" border="0" alt="marine.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Mustached Monocle. The logo would obviously be a monocle sporting a mustache. Option: wearing a top hat too.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    edited November 2008
    Awesome. Go with that. The name, though, needs a little work. Can't exactly place it. But that logo? Awesome.

    Oh! Oh! "I Say! Webdesign"
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1694386:date=Nov 25 2008, 09:57 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Nov 25 2008, 09:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694386"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Awesome. Go with that. The name, though, needs a little work. Can't exactly place it. But that logo? Awesome.

    Oh! Oh! "I Say! Webdesign"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm loving it... this may become reality guys! I see no harm in this being the reason for the name - it's brilliant!
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    The power of groupthink.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    You could call it Web Design Studios Ebay.
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