<div class="IPBDescription">woah o.O</div>You all should watch, makes you think twice about speeding. Made me lose my appetite D: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxaQQ7kpP5g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxaQQ7kpP5g</a>
The age old addage applies... speed kills. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
<!--quoteo(post=1624757:date=May 3 2007, 09:35 PM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ May 3 2007, 09:35 PM) [snapback]1624757[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> The age old addage applies... speed kills. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" /> <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I always thought it was death that kills o.O
<!--quoteo(post=1624758:date=May 3 2007, 03:37 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kouji_San @ May 3 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]1624758[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> I always thought it was death that kills o.O
Good STOP SPEEDING campaign though <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Speed causes death, then death kills... :->
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Here's another commercial of the same kind. This one is actually much more sad <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX_w23Iogt8&mode=user&search=" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX_w23Iogt8...ser&search=</a>
This is a little like making a "cigarettes are bad for you" commercial where someone drops their cigarette to put it out but when they go to step on it they slip and fall and they die and their cell phone goes flying and it breaks a window that someone was leaning against and they fall out in to the road and get hit by a car and die and then the car swerves and hits a toddler who was happily bounding about and the toddler dies.
<!--quoteo(post=1624779:date=May 3 2007, 05:33 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ May 3 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]1624779[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> This is a little like making a "cigarettes are bad for you" commercial where someone drops their cigarette to put it out but when they go to step on it they slip and fall and they die and their cell phone goes flying and it breaks a window that someone was leaning against and they fall out in to the road and get hit by a car and die and then the car swerves and hits a toddler who was happily bounding about and the toddler dies. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> ...and the toddler got bounced on top of a cat and crushed him, and the cats splattered guts shot out into the air landing in the dogs foodbowl, which he promptly ate and died and he keeled over onto a mound of fire ants and.... ... .. .
<!--quoteo(post=1624787:date=May 3 2007, 04:59 PM:name=Epidemic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Epidemic @ May 3 2007, 04:59 PM) [snapback]1624787[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Speed doesnt kill, death kills.
But to be on topic, would driving abit slower have avoided that situation? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No doubt driving slower would have caused that situation to be completely avoided. He would have never had to pass the driver in front of him, who was obeying the speed limit, and never would have had to swerve out of the way of the dog. If he had to, he would not have rolled, because he was at a lower speed. Also, he would have had more room to maneuver if he had not been passing the man on the left, which would have allowed him to swerve around the dog safely to begin with.
I don't think this is a terrible representation of what speeding can do. Of course its slightly over the top, but it gets you thinking about <b>other people</b> rather than just yourself. Its not only you who is at risk when you speed, its everyone else around you. The point still stands that, if you speed, and get in a wreck, there is a chance that someone else besides yourself may get hurt, killed or maimed for the rest of their life, be it an old man or a young couple in love.
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edited May 2007
Well, I think the commercial is unrealistic, think about it, why would he steer left in order to dodge the dog? Putting yourself in such a situation and you would see how it doesnt make sense, even in a split second decision. None of the cars even hitted the breaks which is unrealistically. And finally, accidents happen, sure the less speed you drive at, the less accidents (and how big they are). Unless you ban life, accidents will happen, let's not restrict our freedom to take our automobiles out for a nice run.
<!--quoteo(post=1624806:date=May 3 2007, 05:50 PM:name=Epidemic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Epidemic @ May 3 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]1624806[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Well, I think the commercial is unrealistic, think about it, why would he steer left in order to dodge the dog? Putting yourself in such a situation and you would see how it doesnt make sense, even in a split second decision. None of the cars even hitted the breaks which is unrealistically. And finally, accidents happen, sure the less speed you drive at, the less accidents (and how big they are). Unless you ban life, accidents will happen, let's not restrict our freedom to take our automobiles out for a nice run. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think you need a little less focus on the specific manuevers he's doing; they could make a video where he throws on the brakes but can't stop in time to help from hitting a stroller, but that's not quite as effective visually. I don't think the commerical is advocating 'no more cars', and you don't need to go for a leisurely drive at 200km/h / 130 mph.
That said, I think it doesn't apply quite as well with the US, where much of the speeding occurs on highways, and if you've got two people kissing on a highway...well, who knows what they were doing in the first place.
...so, no drinking and driving...and speed responsibly, how 'bout that?
It's not speeding that kills. It's any unsafe driving. That red light you run, that unsafe u-turn you take, that guy in front who's driving a little too slow for your liking so you hug his bumper to make him go faster... All of it is unsafe driving, all of it makes the streets less safe and increases the risk of accidents. And whenever you do that, you endanger everyone around you. It's one of the most selfish things to do. Taking your car for a "nice run" is fine as long as that run is within the speed limit. Think the speed limit's too low, take your car on a race track (and those have speed limits too).
If stupid people kill, like BM says, then those who drive unsafe are stupid people. Keep them off the roads indeed.
<!--quoteo(post=1624812:date=May 3 2007, 07:24 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ May 3 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]1624812[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> It's not speeding that kills. It's any unsafe driving. That red light you run, that unsafe u-turn you take, that guy in front who's driving a little too slow for your liking so you hug his bumper to make him go faster... All of it is unsafe driving, all of it makes the streets less safe and increases the risk of accidents. And whenever you do that, you endanger everyone around you. It's one of the most selfish things to do. Taking your car for a "nice run" is fine as long as that run is within the speed limit. Think the speed limit's too low, take your car on a race track (and those have speed limits too).
If stupid people kill, like BM says, then those who drive unsafe are stupid people. Keep them off the roads indeed. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah. Two biggest problems in my area are tailgating and running red lights. I wish people would realize that it can take you up to 2 seconds to even begin to react to an emergency. If you're riding less than half a second behind someone, (especially the crazy *******s who tailgate 18-wheelers to "ride their drift") you're virtually screwed.
<!--quoteo(post=1624812:date=May 3 2007, 07:24 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ May 3 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]1624812[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> If stupid people kill, like BM says, then those who drive unsafe are stupid people. Keep them off the roads indeed. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> You've just succeeded in removing 90% of the drivers from the roads. That would surely make things safer...
And yes, it's damn stupid to swerve to miss an animal on the road when your driving any motor vehicle. You're jeopardizing your own life and more than likely other humans too.
<!--quoteo(post=1624818:date=May 3 2007, 04:54 PM:name=DrSuredeath)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DrSuredeath @ May 3 2007, 04:54 PM) [snapback]1624818[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> I would have just hit the dog. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Unlikely. Your instinct is to steer away from it. Frankly nobody makes rational decisions at the millisecond level.
<!--quoteo(post=1624764:date=May 3 2007, 04:05 PM:name=DOOManiac)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DOOManiac @ May 3 2007, 04:05 PM) [snapback]1624764[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That is the most disturbing commercial I have ever seen... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" /> <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not the most, but it's pretty compelling towards save driving.
<!--quoteo(post=1624770:date=May 3 2007, 04:44 PM:name=Parrot-of-War)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Parrot-of-War @ May 3 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]1624770[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Here's another commercial of the same kind. This one is actually much more sad <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX_w23Iogt8&mode=user&search=" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX_w23Iogt8...ser&search=</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1624798:date=May 3 2007, 06:16 PM:name=Black_Mage)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black_Mage @ May 3 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]1624798[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->contrary to popular belief, speed does not kill, stupid people kill. keep stupid people off the roads. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Indeed.
<!--quoteo(post=1624806:date=May 3 2007, 06:50 PM:name=Epidemic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Epidemic @ May 3 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]1624806[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well, I think the commercial is unrealistic, think about it, why would he steer left in order to dodge the dog? Putting yourself in such a situation and you would see how it doesnt make sense, even in a split second decision. None of the cars even hitted the breaks which is unrealistically. And finally, accidents happen, sure the less speed you drive at, the less accidents (and how big they are). Unless you ban life, accidents will happen, let's not restrict our freedom to take our automobiles out for a nice run. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
All good points but I think you are over-thinking it.
<!--quoteo(post=1624812:date=May 3 2007, 07:24 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ May 3 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]1624812[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's not speeding that kills. It's any unsafe driving. That red light you run, that unsafe u-turn you take, that guy in front who's driving a little too slow for your liking so you hug his bumper to make him go faster... All of it is unsafe driving, all of it makes the streets less safe and increases the risk of accidents. And whenever you do that, you endanger everyone around you. It's one of the most selfish things to do. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
All strong points.
<!--quoteo(post=1624818:date=May 3 2007, 07:54 PM:name=DrSuredeath)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DrSuredeath @ May 3 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]1624818[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I would have just hit the dog. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
While I disagree that velocity and momentum in of itself kills, you ABSOLUTELTY can't be as good of a driver after drinking. So I fully support not drinking and driving. Cars have a seemingly wacky amount of momentum to them when they are moving, and as such you must give FULL attention to your driving.
The biggest issues in my area are tail gaiting, cutting people off, and TALKING ON THE GOD DAMN CELLPHONE WHILE DRIVING. (remember what I said about full attention?)
<!--quoteo(post=1624816:date=May 3 2007, 11:44 PM:name=Rob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rob @ May 3 2007, 11:44 PM) [snapback]1624816[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Yeah. Two biggest problems in my area are tailgating and running red lights. I wish people would realize that it can take you up to 2 seconds to even begin to react to an emergency. If you're riding less than half a second behind someone, (especially the crazy *******s who tailgate 18-wheelers to "ride their drift") you're virtually screwed. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
While I never tailgate (my car is a 1970's chrysler, I would have to be insane) trucks cant possibly brake as fast as a car can, and drafting does actually work. I get more ###### off about people tailgating me and other cars, especially in big suv's where I cant even see whats going on on the road in front of me.
edit, oh and I love driving fast <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" /> however that ad showed someone doing rather stupid things (overtaking over a rise and a bend?) I only ever speed when I am driving around at 2 or 3 in the morning and there isn't another soul on the road.
<!--quoteo(post=1624818:date=May 3 2007, 07:54 PM:name=DrSuredeath)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DrSuredeath @ May 3 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]1624818[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> I would have just hit the dog. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--quoteo(post=1624837:date=May 3 2007, 09:32 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ May 3 2007, 09:32 PM) [snapback]1624837[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Unlikely. Your instinct is to steer away from it. Frankly nobody makes rational decisions at the millisecond level. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's the safest way to approach it, and entirely possible IF you're properly trained. When my daddy taught me to drive he stressed many times the importance of not swerving to avoid an animal. In over 2,000,000 miles of driving I did it several times. Sorry for the animal, but human lives are more important.
I like the text that pops up underneath the stars when you roll over the votes - for 2 stars it says "Nothing special" -- I love how easy it allows me to express my feelings for it.
<!--quoteo(post=1624843:date=May 3 2007, 07:07 PM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ May 3 2007, 07:07 PM) [snapback]1624843[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> It's the safest way to approach it, and entirely possible IF you're properly trained. When my daddy taught me to drive he stressed many times the importance of not swerving to avoid an animal. In over 2,000,000 miles of driving I did it several times. Sorry for the animal, but human lives are more important. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Let me rephrase that. Unless your dad has specifically trained you to mow down critters, you're going to swerve to avoid the dog.
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The age old addage applies... speed kills. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
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I always thought it was death that kills o.O
Good STOP SPEEDING campaign though
I always thought it was death that kills o.O
Good STOP SPEEDING campaign though
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Speed causes death, then death kills... :->
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Thats incredible.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX_w23Iogt8&mode=user&search=" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX_w23Iogt8...ser&search=</a>
This is a little like making a "cigarettes are bad for you" commercial where someone drops their cigarette to put it out but when they go to step on it they slip and fall and they die and their cell phone goes flying and it breaks a window that someone was leaning against and they fall out in to the road and get hit by a car and die and then the car swerves and hits a toddler who was happily bounding about and the toddler dies.
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...and the toddler got bounced on top of a cat and crushed him, and the cats splattered guts shot out into the air landing in the dogs foodbowl, which he promptly ate and died and he keeled over onto a mound of fire ants and.... ... .. .
Speed causes death, then death kills... :->
<!--sizeo:1--><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->I didn't make the saying up, I simply repeated it.<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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Speed doesnt kill, death kills.
But to be on topic, would driving abit slower have avoided that situation?
I'll be enjoying celerity and leap further on :]
Now, it's official! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
Speed doesnt kill, death kills.
But to be on topic, would driving abit slower have avoided that situation?
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No doubt driving slower would have caused that situation to be completely avoided. He would have never had to pass the driver in front of him, who was obeying the speed limit, and never would have had to swerve out of the way of the dog. If he had to, he would not have rolled, because he was at a lower speed. Also, he would have had more room to maneuver if he had not been passing the man on the left, which would have allowed him to swerve around the dog safely to begin with.
I don't think this is a terrible representation of what speeding can do. Of course its slightly over the top, but it gets you thinking about <b>other people</b> rather than just yourself. Its not only you who is at risk when you speed, its everyone else around you. The point still stands that, if you speed, and get in a wreck, there is a chance that someone else besides yourself may get hurt, killed or maimed for the rest of their life, be it an old man or a young couple in love.
And finally, accidents happen, sure the less speed you drive at, the less accidents (and how big they are). Unless you ban life, accidents will happen, let's not restrict our freedom to take our automobiles out for a nice run.
Well, I think the commercial is unrealistic, think about it, why would he steer left in order to dodge the dog? Putting yourself in such a situation and you would see how it doesnt make sense, even in a split second decision. None of the cars even hitted the breaks which is unrealistically.
And finally, accidents happen, sure the less speed you drive at, the less accidents (and how big they are). Unless you ban life, accidents will happen, let's not restrict our freedom to take our automobiles out for a nice run.
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I think you need a little less focus on the specific manuevers he's doing; they could make a video where he throws on the brakes but can't stop in time to help from hitting a stroller, but that's not quite as effective visually. I don't think the commerical is advocating 'no more cars', and you don't need to go for a leisurely drive at 200km/h / 130 mph.
That said, I think it doesn't apply quite as well with the US, where much of the speeding occurs on highways, and if you've got two people kissing on a highway...well, who knows what they were doing in the first place.
...so, no drinking and driving...and speed responsibly, how 'bout that?
Taking your car for a "nice run" is fine as long as that run is within the speed limit. Think the speed limit's too low, take your car on a race track (and those have speed limits too).
If stupid people kill, like BM says, then those who drive unsafe are stupid people. Keep them off the roads indeed.
It's not speeding that kills. It's any unsafe driving. That red light you run, that unsafe u-turn you take, that guy in front who's driving a little too slow for your liking so you hug his bumper to make him go faster... All of it is unsafe driving, all of it makes the streets less safe and increases the risk of accidents. And whenever you do that, you endanger everyone around you. It's one of the most selfish things to do.
Taking your car for a "nice run" is fine as long as that run is within the speed limit. Think the speed limit's too low, take your car on a race track (and those have speed limits too).
If stupid people kill, like BM says, then those who drive unsafe are stupid people. Keep them off the roads indeed.
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Yeah. Two biggest problems in my area are tailgating and running red lights. I wish people would realize that it can take you up to 2 seconds to even begin to react to an emergency. If you're riding less than half a second behind someone, (especially the crazy *******s who tailgate 18-wheelers to "ride their drift") you're virtually screwed.
If stupid people kill, like BM says, then those who drive unsafe are stupid people. Keep them off the roads indeed.
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You've just succeeded in removing 90% of the drivers from the roads. That would surely make things safer...
And yes, it's damn stupid to swerve to miss an animal on the road when your driving any motor vehicle. You're jeopardizing your own life and more than likely other humans too.
I would have just hit the dog.
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Unlikely. Your instinct is to steer away from it. Frankly nobody makes rational decisions at the millisecond level.
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Not the most, but it's pretty compelling towards save driving.
<!--quoteo(post=1624770:date=May 3 2007, 04:44 PM:name=Parrot-of-War)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Parrot-of-War @ May 3 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]1624770[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Here's another commercial of the same kind. This one is actually much more sad <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX_w23Iogt8&mode=user&search=" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX_w23Iogt8...ser&search=</a>
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Ok that's argueably worse yes. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
<!--quoteo(post=1624798:date=May 3 2007, 06:16 PM:name=Black_Mage)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black_Mage @ May 3 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]1624798[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->contrary to popular belief, speed does not kill, stupid people kill. keep stupid people off the roads.
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Indeed.
<!--quoteo(post=1624806:date=May 3 2007, 06:50 PM:name=Epidemic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Epidemic @ May 3 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]1624806[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well, I think the commercial is unrealistic, think about it, why would he steer left in order to dodge the dog? Putting yourself in such a situation and you would see how it doesnt make sense, even in a split second decision. None of the cars even hitted the breaks which is unrealistically.
And finally, accidents happen, sure the less speed you drive at, the less accidents (and how big they are). Unless you ban life, accidents will happen, let's not restrict our freedom to take our automobiles out for a nice run.
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All good points but I think you are over-thinking it.
<!--quoteo(post=1624812:date=May 3 2007, 07:24 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ May 3 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]1624812[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's not speeding that kills. It's any unsafe driving. That red light you run, that unsafe u-turn you take, that guy in front who's driving a little too slow for your liking so you hug his bumper to make him go faster... All of it is unsafe driving, all of it makes the streets less safe and increases the risk of accidents. And whenever you do that, you endanger everyone around you. It's one of the most selfish things to do.
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All strong points.
<!--quoteo(post=1624818:date=May 3 2007, 07:54 PM:name=DrSuredeath)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DrSuredeath @ May 3 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]1624818[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I would have just hit the dog.
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<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
my two cents:
While I disagree that velocity and momentum in of itself kills, you ABSOLUTELTY can't be as good of a driver after drinking. So I fully support not drinking and driving. Cars have a seemingly wacky amount of momentum to them when they are moving, and as such you must give FULL attention to your driving.
The biggest issues in my area are tail gaiting, cutting people off, and TALKING ON THE GOD DAMN CELLPHONE WHILE DRIVING. (remember what I said about full attention?)
Yeah. Two biggest problems in my area are tailgating and running red lights. I wish people would realize that it can take you up to 2 seconds to even begin to react to an emergency. If you're riding less than half a second behind someone, (especially the crazy *******s who tailgate 18-wheelers to "ride their drift") you're virtually screwed.
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While I never tailgate (my car is a 1970's chrysler, I would have to be insane) trucks cant possibly brake as fast as a car can, and drafting does actually work. I get more ###### off about people tailgating me and other cars, especially in big suv's where I cant even see whats going on on the road in front of me.
edit, oh and I love driving fast <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" /> however that ad showed someone doing rather stupid things (overtaking over a rise and a bend?) I only ever speed when I am driving around at 2 or 3 in the morning and there isn't another soul on the road.
I would have just hit the dog.
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Unlikely. Your instinct is to steer away from it. Frankly nobody makes rational decisions at the millisecond level.
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It's the safest way to approach it, and entirely possible IF you're properly trained. When my daddy taught me to drive he stressed many times the importance of not swerving to avoid an animal. In over 2,000,000 miles of driving I did it several times. Sorry for the animal, but human lives are more important.
It's the safest way to approach it, and entirely possible IF you're properly trained. When my daddy taught me to drive he stressed many times the importance of not swerving to avoid an animal. In over 2,000,000 miles of driving I did it several times. Sorry for the animal, but human lives are more important.
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Let me rephrase that. Unless your dad has specifically trained you to mow down critters, you're going to swerve to avoid the dog.
--Scythe--