[WHO]ThemYou can call me DaveJoin Date: 2002-12-11Member: 10593Members, Constellation
I'm getting the feeling that people on this forum aren't nearly as excited as they should be about guitar hero 2. I mean come on. GUITAR HERO 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
Excited? Heck yeah. Unfortunately since my car is STILL dead, I'm limited in options for getting to the store. Managed to get one to a local game shop, but they neglected to mention on the phone that they only stock the version with a controller. Which might not have been /terrible/, but I really didn't need a new one (unless it was wireless, which it isn't). If nothing else, I may end up skating the ten or fifteen miles to the nearest Target, as they specifically advertise selling just the game.
I suck at Guitar Hero. If Guitar Hero was a game where you had to snipe people with a railgun to play the song, I would get 100% every time. As it stands, my fingers just don't jive. At least, not in "I Love Rock and Roll" on easy the first time I played.
<!--quoteo(post=1574754:date=Nov 8 2006, 08:29 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Nov 8 2006, 08:29 AM) [snapback]1574754[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> I suck at Guitar Hero. If Guitar Hero was a game where you had to snipe people with a railgun to play the song, I would get 100% every time. As it stands, my fingers just don't jive. At least, not in "I Love Rock and Roll" on easy the first time I played. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> heh im guessing you played Red Faction quite a bit..
Uh, no? Never played it, but I'm <i>pretty sure</i> there isn't any music from Boston or The Ramones in Red Faction, let alone music synched to your railgun skillz.
<!--quoteo(post=1574744:date=Nov 8 2006, 09:46 AM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Nov 8 2006, 09:46 AM) [snapback]1574744[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Doomaniac would be ranting and raving about how awesome GH2 is.
If he could pry himself off the controller, that is. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This answer is the correct one!
OMG GH2 is awesome. A big improvement over the first one. It's more than just new songs people! :D
I would play. But I'm currently waiting for the 360 version.
So I'll just listen to Message In A Bottle for the n'th time already. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
I bought GH1 3 weeks ago, pre-ordered GH2 on the 6th, got it on the 7th, and have clocked over 8 hours in it. Hard mode is stomping me, and I started on it, but whatever. I complained that GH1 was a bit too easy.
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<!--quoteo(post=1574961:date=Nov 8 2006, 06:23 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Nov 8 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]1574961[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Uh, no? Never played it, but I'm <i>pretty sure</i> there isn't any music from Boston or The Ramones in Red Faction, let alone music synched to your railgun skillz. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Aw man. And I was really looking forward to being able to pay for school on time this semester too. I didn't know about Trogdor, but I had heard about Metalocalypse's Thunderhorse.
[WHO]ThemYou can call me DaveJoin Date: 2002-12-11Member: 10593Members, Constellation
<!--quoteo(post=1574987:date=Nov 8 2006, 08:18 PM:name=SkulkBait)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SkulkBait @ Nov 8 2006, 08:18 PM) [snapback]1574987[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Aw man. And I was really looking forward to being able to pay for school on time this semester too. I didn't know about Trogdor, but I had heard about Metalocalypse's Thunderhorse. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, as it turns out Trogdor is much harder than Thunderhorse (at least on expert).
I'm gonna have to play trogdor for quite a while before I've even got the right muscles built up for this one move they make you do all the time.
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
Merk, I play a bit of guitar. GH is harder and easier in ways... with a real guitar, you aren't changing chords anywhere near as much, and most of your action tends to be sliding along the neck. GH, it's the exact opposite. Little sliding on the neck (to hit the orange button), and a whole lot of fingering changes.
At the very least it'll help to beef up your finger speed.
Still have as of yet to grab GH2. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" /> Think I'll try skating over to Blockbuster before they close though, see if they have a retail copy.
I bought GH2 today, fire it up and on the 3rd song it locks up. I got a prescratched disc (pretty badly too). 1 hour and a trip to swap the game later, I was unlocking songs with one of my roommates. I managed to play at expert level on the first game, but as he wanted to stick to hard, we decided to run through that career mode first. In approx 4 hours, we burned through the entire set. My arm hurts so badly. I had to dip to practice mode once to beat the intro to Carry Me Home, but we unlocked everything. They didn't even heckle me for playing the last song. Now the only thing this game needs is an internet vs mode. Probably a bit problematic with lag, though...
My favorite new feature was that they made hammer-ons and pull-offs easier. I think that was my chiefest complaint from the first game.
[WHO]ThemYou can call me DaveJoin Date: 2002-12-11Member: 10593Members, Constellation
<!--quoteo(post=1575019:date=Nov 8 2006, 10:14 PM:name=ElvenThief)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ElvenThief @ Nov 8 2006, 10:14 PM) [snapback]1575019[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> I bought GH2 today, fire it up and on the 3rd song it locks up. I got a prescratched disc (pretty badly too). 1 hour and a trip to swap the game later, I was unlocking songs with one of my roommates. I managed to play at expert level on the first game, but as he wanted to stick to hard, we decided to run through that career mode first. In approx 4 hours, we burned through the entire set. My arm hurts so badly. I had to dip to practice mode once to beat the intro to Carry Me Home, but we unlocked everything. They didn't even heckle me for playing the last song. Now the only thing this game needs is an internet vs mode. Probably a bit problematic with lag, though...
My favorite new feature was that they made hammer-ons and pull-offs easier. I think that was my chiefest complaint from the first game. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, I was noticing how easy it was to hammer on with the new freezepop song.
Apparently I'm the only one who plays GH for the music instead of for the challenge.
Let me elaborate before you scream and yell at me: I still haven't progressed to hard. Haven't even attempted a single song. Why? Because medium is still hard enough. I don't play perfectly on medium, certainly not on the more difficult songs (the easier ones I can do almost perfectly. And we're not talking five stars perfect, we're talking hit every note perfect). If I progress to hard, the songs are going to sound horrible as I miss notes all the time. Squeak, plonk. What's the point of playing music if it sounds awful because you're messing up all the time? And barely managing to crawl through a song on your hands and knees, just staying out of the red and strategically using star power to get past passages you would otherwise never survive, coming out at the other end feeling totally beaten but alive, and then having the game declare "you rock" when the entire song sounded like a cat being beaten with a brick just seems like the game is mocking you.
But I'm buying GH2 anyway. New songs yay. And I'll probably never progress past medium there, either.
Well, you sorta buy it for the music. I mean, when you get right down to it, GH is basically just an advanced form of <a href="http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Air_guitar" target="_blank">air guitar</a>.
<!--quoteo(post=1575182:date=Nov 9 2006, 06:41 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Nov 9 2006, 06:41 PM) [snapback]1575182[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Playing Guitar Hero for the music is like buying a breakfast cereal for the toy inside. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I strongly disagree. Take the toy away and you still have the cereal, which is kinda the main point. Take the music away and Guitar Hero ceases to exist.
[WHO]ThemYou can call me DaveJoin Date: 2002-12-11Member: 10593Members, Constellation
<!--quoteo(post=1575093:date=Nov 9 2006, 02:38 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Nov 9 2006, 02:38 AM) [snapback]1575093[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Apparently I'm the only one who plays GH for the music instead of for the challenge.
Let me elaborate before you scream and yell at me: I still haven't progressed to hard. Haven't even attempted a single song. Why? Because medium is still hard enough. I don't play perfectly on medium, certainly not on the more difficult songs (the easier ones I can do almost perfectly. And we're not talking five stars perfect, we're talking hit every note perfect). If I progress to hard, the songs are going to sound horrible as I miss notes all the time. Squeak, plonk. What's the point of playing music if it sounds awful because you're messing up all the time? And barely managing to crawl through a song on your hands and knees, just staying out of the red and strategically using star power to get past passages you would otherwise never survive, coming out at the other end feeling totally beaten but alive, and then having the game declare "you rock" when the entire song sounded like a cat being beaten with a brick just seems like the game is mocking you.
But I'm buying GH2 anyway. New songs yay. And I'll probably never progress past medium there, either. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Going to expert is the fastest way to learn. With your set of goals I'd have gone back to medium after completing expert.
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
I'd disagree. When you hit Hard, the notes come fast enough that you can't think any more, your fingers just *try* to get to the notes in time, and through some passages, the only way to tell if you succeeded or failed is by checking your score multiplier. You aren't thinking, you aren't improving, you're just madly scrambling to try to get to the notes in time.
Going through Medium (or even Easy) and just five-star Perfecting all of the songs is a good way to get into the swing. I'd suggest Medium, so you don't get too used to only using three fingers up top. But stick with the low end ones until you can at least perfect /one/. Then go up to the higher venue set list, and keep practicing. By the time you're able to Perfect one of the songs in the last venue, you'll do very well in the intro to Hard, where they re-teach you how to play (thankfully for the last time) introducing the orange button and hand-shifting becomes neccessary. Again, practice until you can Perfect one song in the current venue. Then progress.
<!--quoteo(post=1575188:date=Nov 9 2006, 09:51 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Nov 9 2006, 09:51 AM) [snapback]1575188[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> I strongly disagree. Take the toy away and you still have the cereal, which is kinda the main point. Take the music away and Guitar Hero ceases to exist. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Guitar Hero doesn't cease to exist without the music. You could play with the crappy songs that DDR has, or with any generic set of rhythm game music. Frets on Fire works plenty fine without Guitar Hero's songs, in fact.
Then tell me why all the buzz is about Guitar Hero, not frets on fire. Guitar Hero would never have made it big if it weren't for the awesome song selection.
<!--quoteo(post=1575239:date=Nov 9 2006, 02:23 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Nov 9 2006, 02:23 PM) [snapback]1575239[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Then tell me why all the buzz is about Guitar Hero, not frets on fire. Guitar Hero would never have made it big if it weren't for the awesome song selection. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because guitar hero, has a, uh, guitar. And Frets on Fire has a keyboard. Big difference imo.
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But I degress, I'm not buying much into consoles right now.
That or.. y'know. Two miles to a Blockbuster.
If he could pry himself off the controller, that is.
As for me, I don't own any consoles. Except a DS. Played GH1 on a mate's PS2. Pretty fun. Hard to get over how stupid you feel whilst "playing".
--Scythe--
I suck at Guitar Hero. If Guitar Hero was a game where you had to snipe people with a railgun to play the song, I would get 100% every time. As it stands, my fingers just don't jive. At least, not in "I Love Rock and Roll" on easy the first time I played.
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heh im guessing you played Red Faction quite a bit..
Doomaniac would be ranting and raving about how awesome GH2 is.
If he could pry himself off the controller, that is.
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This answer is the correct one!
OMG GH2 is awesome. A big improvement over the first one. It's more than just new songs people! :D
Now I'm off to play some more.
So I'll just listen to Message In A Bottle for the n'th time already. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
Uh, no? Never played it, but I'm <i>pretty sure</i> there isn't any music from Boston or The Ramones in Red Faction, let alone music synched to your railgun skillz.
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And a mod was born.
Aw man. And I was really looking forward to being able to pay for school on time this semester too. I didn't know about Trogdor, but I had heard about Metalocalypse's Thunderhorse.
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Yeah, as it turns out Trogdor is much harder than Thunderhorse (at least on expert).
I'm gonna have to play trogdor for quite a while before I've even got the right muscles built up for this one move they make you do all the time.
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Wait, I am saying that.....
But I'm wondering if I'm wrong!
At the very least it'll help to beef up your finger speed.
Still have as of yet to grab GH2. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" /> Think I'll try skating over to Blockbuster before they close though, see if they have a retail copy.
In approx 4 hours, we burned through the entire set. My arm hurts so badly.
I had to dip to practice mode once to beat the intro to Carry Me Home, but we unlocked everything. They didn't even heckle me for playing the last song.
Now the only thing this game needs is an internet vs mode. Probably a bit problematic with lag, though...
My favorite new feature was that they made hammer-ons and pull-offs easier. I think that was my chiefest complaint from the first game.
I bought GH2 today, fire it up and on the 3rd song it locks up. I got a prescratched disc (pretty badly too). 1 hour and a trip to swap the game later, I was unlocking songs with one of my roommates. I managed to play at expert level on the first game, but as he wanted to stick to hard, we decided to run through that career mode first.
In approx 4 hours, we burned through the entire set. My arm hurts so badly.
I had to dip to practice mode once to beat the intro to Carry Me Home, but we unlocked everything. They didn't even heckle me for playing the last song.
Now the only thing this game needs is an internet vs mode. Probably a bit problematic with lag, though...
My favorite new feature was that they made hammer-ons and pull-offs easier. I think that was my chiefest complaint from the first game.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, I was noticing how easy it was to hammer on with the new freezepop song.
Let me elaborate before you scream and yell at me: I still haven't progressed to hard. Haven't even attempted a single song. Why? Because medium is still hard enough. I don't play perfectly on medium, certainly not on the more difficult songs (the easier ones I can do almost perfectly. And we're not talking five stars perfect, we're talking hit every note perfect). If I progress to hard, the songs are going to sound horrible as I miss notes all the time. Squeak, plonk. What's the point of playing music if it sounds awful because you're messing up all the time?
And barely managing to crawl through a song on your hands and knees, just staying out of the red and strategically using star power to get past passages you would otherwise never survive, coming out at the other end feeling totally beaten but alive, and then having the game declare "you rock" when the entire song sounded like a cat being beaten with a brick just seems like the game is mocking you.
But I'm buying GH2 anyway. New songs yay. And I'll probably never progress past medium there, either.
Playing Guitar Hero for the music is like buying a breakfast cereal for the toy inside.
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I strongly disagree. Take the toy away and you still have the cereal, which is kinda the main point.
Take the music away and Guitar Hero ceases to exist.
Apparently I'm the only one who plays GH for the music instead of for the challenge.
Let me elaborate before you scream and yell at me: I still haven't progressed to hard. Haven't even attempted a single song. Why? Because medium is still hard enough. I don't play perfectly on medium, certainly not on the more difficult songs (the easier ones I can do almost perfectly. And we're not talking five stars perfect, we're talking hit every note perfect). If I progress to hard, the songs are going to sound horrible as I miss notes all the time. Squeak, plonk. What's the point of playing music if it sounds awful because you're messing up all the time?
And barely managing to crawl through a song on your hands and knees, just staying out of the red and strategically using star power to get past passages you would otherwise never survive, coming out at the other end feeling totally beaten but alive, and then having the game declare "you rock" when the entire song sounded like a cat being beaten with a brick just seems like the game is mocking you.
But I'm buying GH2 anyway. New songs yay. And I'll probably never progress past medium there, either.
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Going to expert is the fastest way to learn. With your set of goals I'd have gone back to medium after completing expert.
Going through Medium (or even Easy) and just five-star Perfecting all of the songs is a good way to get into the swing. I'd suggest Medium, so you don't get too used to only using three fingers up top. But stick with the low end ones until you can at least perfect /one/. Then go up to the higher venue set list, and keep practicing. By the time you're able to Perfect one of the songs in the last venue, you'll do very well in the intro to Hard, where they re-teach you how to play (thankfully for the last time) introducing the orange button and hand-shifting becomes neccessary. Again, practice until you can Perfect one song in the current venue. Then progress.
I strongly disagree. Take the toy away and you still have the cereal, which is kinda the main point.
Take the music away and Guitar Hero ceases to exist.
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Guitar Hero doesn't cease to exist without the music. You could play with the crappy songs that DDR has, or with any generic set of rhythm game music. Frets on Fire works plenty fine without Guitar Hero's songs, in fact.
Then tell me why all the buzz is about Guitar Hero, not frets on fire. Guitar Hero would never have made it big if it weren't for the awesome song selection.
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Because guitar hero, has a, uh, guitar. And Frets on Fire has a keyboard. Big difference imo.