tankefuglOne Script To Rule Them All...Trondheim, NorwayJoin Date: 2002-11-14Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
I don't get how some in this thread legitimates insults just because the thread creator requested that people should stop insulting. Reality check?
Do not ever believe that insults fuels a person's wishes for succeeding in a game or sport. It will more than often push a person away from the activity, and very few will be "provoked" into working at becoming the best that way. Insults is not criticism, and i tis not constructive in any way.
It is absolutely NOT a requirement for a competitive community to spew bile and insults at eachother, although I notice that several people seem to think so.
<!--QuoteBegin-tankefugl+Jul 27 2005, 05:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tankefugl @ Jul 27 2005, 05:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't get how some in this thread legitimates insults just because the thread creator requested that people should stop insulting. Reality check?
Do not ever believe that insults fuels a person's wishes for succeeding in a game or sport. It will more than often push a person away from the activity, and very few will be "provoked" into working at becoming the best that way. Insults is not criticism, and i tis not constructive in any way.
It is absolutely NOT a requirement for a competitive community to spew bile and insults at eachother, although I notice that several people seem to think so. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> dude someone just sprayed some smelly bath and body works crap and i cant even breathe regular air now, i just keep smelling this crap that got sprayed.
<!--QuoteBegin-tankefugl+Jul 27 2005, 12:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tankefugl @ Jul 27 2005, 12:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't get how some in this thread legitimates insults just because the thread creator requested that people should stop insulting. Reality check?
Do not ever believe that insults fuels a person's wishes for succeeding in a game or sport. It will more than often push a person away from the activity, and very few will be "provoked" into working at becoming the best that way. Insults is not criticism, and i tis not constructive in any way.
It is absolutely NOT a requirement for a competitive community to spew bile and insults at eachother, although I notice that several people seem to think so. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Firewater speaks the truth, I remember when he insulted me hardcore back in late 1.04 when I was a pub nub, then again when I made my first clan, and when I wanted to give up on ns clans I remembered "I'd just be justifying the things he said"
Granted firewater had some impact on my own gaming "career" He wasn't the only one.
So, yeah, I do thank you firewater for making me look like a moron 2-3 years ago. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
tankefuglOne Script To Rule Them All...Trondheim, NorwayJoin Date: 2002-11-14Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited July 2005
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->... <i>very few</i> will be "provoked" into working at becoming the best that way ...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Also recieving insults has worked on numerous occasion for a person to work harder, in real life.
Take Dr. Martin Luther King, Ghandi, and women in general as a few examples. They were heavily criticized by the powers at be (which just happen to be white people) but instead of crying about it, they did something about it.
Unlike the people who criticized those two fine men and the women I gave the team I criticized advice on how to succeed at clan play. That was arrogantly dismissed, which was kind of expected, but at the same time only supports my point about mindset.
tankefuglOne Script To Rule Them All...Trondheim, NorwayJoin Date: 2002-11-14Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited July 2005
Yes, they were criticized, and also insulted. (Often two different things)
But did they do good because he was insulted or would he have done it regardless? Hmmmm <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Edit: What I am saying that "insulting makes them better" is not a truth. It may for some work that way, but for many others it may not. Many environments that train olympic contesters does not really endorse insulting, for example.
I believe you are confusing providing a challenging environment with insults.
Edit edit: Got to love cross-editing.
Edit edit edit: It's a nice touch how you tuck your own goodness into this.
Well if they weren't getting picked on there would be no reason for change as they would already achieve the goal that they previously had to work for with said insults and criticism.
tankefuglOne Script To Rule Them All...Trondheim, NorwayJoin Date: 2002-11-14Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited July 2005
So you are saying you can't have goals to reach and people to compete against unless you are getting picked on and insulted?
No. I am saying that when the odds are against you, you don't make threads about being made fun of over the internet.
You get better and learn. FAT treated the competitive community just as bad as the competitive community is treating them.
I refuse to praise a team that can't take insults from "Cyber-athletes" as these comments should just be ignored, not require comfort.
I told them generally what to do, and they know who else to goto for help. Whether or not the competitive community likes them/insults/criticize should not affect their performanc in game.
Think what would happen if NBA, MLB, or NFL athletes took out an ad for everytime fans Booed them. They would embarass themselves, their families, and the league in which they compete.
The fact that this team had some of its members react to what is being said tells me that they are not ready for competition, as they have been distracted from winning. My week 5 prediction still stands.
<!--QuoteBegin-tankefugl+Jul 27 2005, 06:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tankefugl @ Jul 27 2005, 06:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So you are saying you can't have goals to reach and people to compete against unless you are getting picked on and insulted? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You and the makers of this thread are confusing criticism with personal attacks. No one thinks they're bad people for being bad at NS. If you're not willing to open your eyes to the possibility of having room to improve, and take offense at seeing "Good team > Your Team: because Your Team has bad players" in a prediction thread, you should not be playing anything competitively. It's not something everyone is made for or even would enjoy. But there's a certain breed of people that thrives on testosterone, insults, and shoving. These people like to play with each other, so leagues of everything from video games to flag foot ball are organized around the world. There are other people who would rather just play for fun and not get their shoes muddy. These people play pick up soccer at the park and stick to pub servers in video games. Putting one type of person into the wrong type of game yields results like this thread.
If you take offense at friendly jabs in the locker room, you're not meant to be on the team. Similarly, if you're a ballhog at the park and ruining everyone's fun with taunts and rough play, you should probably go try out for a real team. Do I even make sense?
<!--QuoteBegin-Firewater+Jul 27 2005, 06:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Firewater @ Jul 27 2005, 06:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> One who has posted.
Also recieving insults has worked on numerous occasion for a person to work harder, in real life.
Take Dr. Martin Luther King, Ghandi, and women in general as a few examples. They were heavily criticized by the powers at be (which just happen to be white people) but instead of crying about it, they did something about it.
Unlike the people who criticized those two fine men and the women I gave the team I criticized advice on how to succeed at clan play. That was arrogantly dismissed, which was kind of expected, but at the same time only supports my point about mindset. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So in this analogy, you're the one of the "white people" (because women are only oppressed in white culture) who criticized/lynched (the analogy from NS to civil rights breaks here anyway) blacks, pacifists, and women? And you're advocating this train of thought? This is the most absurd thing I think I've EVER read, roflmao.
I don't know what's worse, your revoltingly sanctimonious (though greatly humorous for the first time which gave impetus for me to break my "no more posts in this thread" claim) writing style, your confusion of several key words like "criticize" and "insult", what I'll call "selective reading", or your inept reasoning full of gems like these.
Hopefully my REAL last post in this thread, but I am sigging what you wrote so I never forget the joy it brought me. Originally I was gonna go with the "5th week" "criticism".
If tank wasn't a mod, you'd probably be flaming-err "criticizing" him too I'm sure.
tankefuglOne Script To Rule Them All...Trondheim, NorwayJoin Date: 2002-11-14Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited July 2005
JesusC, I am not confusing criticism with personal attacks. My original concern was that some people seem to legitimate insults because this thread was started, and that people seem to believe insults and criticism goes hand in hand.
Your portrait of the "real" and "common" player do not fit with people I personally know that compete on international level in sports like Tae Kwon Do, running and handball. Because of this, I really have a hard time connecting an <b>insulting</b> environment with being good and the desire to become better and compete.
Edit: I never said Firewater insulted them either, but I strongly disagree with this statement: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well if they weren't getting picked on there would be no reason for change as they would already achieve the goal that they previously had to work for with said insults and criticism.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think the only connection is that in a competitive enviroment, individual skill, or lack there of is a more prominent concern. Even those who may not care for getting better and play 6v6 are still aware of a difference in skill and it'll factor into certain things such as playing certain teams in a PCW or what division in a league you might be in. And thus it's subject to banter.
But the important thing to realise is this: it's just banter. If on a public i say olol I suck I don't expect you to go emo on me and quit. This sort of banter goes back and forth all the time between people, be it in real life, on IRC, on ventrillo or in-game. If you're not exposed to it in real life then sure it might come as a shock, but welcome to the internet, you're always going to be exposed to a wide variety of people that you're constitution doesn't allow you to deal with it.
I've dished out plenty of this stuff in the past and i've recieved enough of it too, it's all fun and games. The internet is one big pantomine and until you learn this fact you're going to find yourself on the recieving end of things. Hell it's even funnier for people when you start to cry about it. Just smile and dish it back, people will like you more if you can exchange a witty little jab.
Why? The fact that they were being condesended to all the time provoked change. If they were treated as equals, under what premise would the movement justified for? Dr. King was justified, as he wanted equal treament for his people, which is what should have been happening all along. Ghandi was justified as he wanted england out because they practically enslaved the Indian people with ridiculous laws.
Also I'm sure your friends who are Olympians would not make an announcement to stop insulting them. I am more than sure that they do get insulted by other teams using gamesmanship as a strategy. Obviously if they are olympians, they are very skilled at what they do, so much so that they ignore everything that is said about them, and continue to compete at their best possible level.
I am all for positive training, as I am a pretty positive person (hard to believe on these boards I know) but in competition, one must never reveal weakness. One person from FAT did that by making this thread. He made his team look weak. There is nothing positive about it and I refuse to lie to people, internet or real life and say "hey its ok".
I told them what they needed to do, lets see if they can do it, or not.
Also recieving insults has worked on numerous occasion for a person to work harder, in real life.
Take Dr. Martin Luther King, Ghandi, and women in general as a few examples. They were heavily criticized by the powers at be (which just happen to be white people) but instead of crying about it, they did something about it.
Unlike the people who criticized those two fine men and the women I gave the team I criticized advice on how to succeed at clan play. That was arrogantly dismissed, which was kind of expected, but at the same time only supports my point about mindset. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So in this analogy, you're the one of the "white people" (because women are only oppressed in white culture) who criticized/lynched (the analogy from NS to civil rights breaks here anyway) blacks, pacifists, and women? And you're advocating this train of thought? This is the most absurd thing I think I've EVER read, roflmao.
I don't know what's worse, your revoltingly sanctimonious (though greatly humorous for the first time which gave impetus for me to break my "no more posts in this thread" claim) writing style, your confusion of several key words like "criticize" and "insult", what I'll call "selective reading", or your inept reasoning full of gems like these.
Hopefully my REAL last post in this thread, but I am sigging what you wrote so I never forget the joy it brought me. Originally I was gonna go with the "5th week" "criticism".
If tank wasn't a mod, you'd probably be flaming-err "criticizing" him too I'm sure. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well you have taken my post out of context, blatently expected. You want to call me a racist, so be it, I am over it.
I have no problem criticizing people based on their logic, rather than their social status within a community. I have criticized Flayra, Nem0, and other higher ups based on their logic. And I have also received critiques from them as well. The fact that Tankfugl is a developer/mod does not that person is incapable of logic errors.
eSocial Status doesn't mean anything to me, but apparently to your team it seems to be invaluable.
Also none of them have made Emo threads to stop insulting them.
<!--QuoteBegin-Firewater+Jul 27 2005, 07:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Firewater @ Jul 27 2005, 07:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well you have taken my post out of context, blatently expected. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You did the same thing to my thread.
Firewater, please start over and read all of my posts. I did no crying.
I'm merely a concerned NSer wanting his fellows to act at a higher level than the "CS noobs" which this community thinks it is so much better than.
Now stop making fools of yourselves. I made a simple post. Stop destroying it. Any mod, please lock this up.
The_CheatIt's a The Cheat!Join Date: 2003-11-19Member: 23191Members, Constellation
Just one question FW: How does 2 out of 10 clan members posting in this thread (Anbu doesn't count, since his post wasn't even on-topic) justify you stereotyping our whole team? I've been wondering this for awhile now...
<!--QuoteBegin-The Cheat+Jul 27 2005, 10:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The Cheat @ Jul 27 2005, 10:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just one question FW: How does 2 out of 10 clan members posting in this thread (Anbu doesn't count, since his post wasn't even on-topic) justify you stereotyping our whole team? I've been wondering this for awhile now... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Team's are supposed to be represented by their players.
Also Elitomat didn't say "Stop insulting me" he said "Stop the insults" and proceeded to drag his team into the equation.
Thats how <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Also I count 3 players, Elitomat, Splintersteve, and You.
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Do not ever believe that insults fuels a person's wishes for succeeding in a game or sport. It will more than often push a person away from the activity, and very few will be "provoked" into working at becoming the best that way. Insults is not criticism, and i tis not constructive in any way.
It is absolutely NOT a requirement for a competitive community to spew bile and insults at eachother, although I notice that several people seem to think so.
Do not ever believe that insults fuels a person's wishes for succeeding in a game or sport. It will more than often push a person away from the activity, and very few will be "provoked" into working at becoming the best that way. Insults is not criticism, and i tis not constructive in any way.
It is absolutely NOT a requirement for a competitive community to spew bile and insults at eachother, although I notice that several people seem to think so. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
dude someone just sprayed some smelly bath and body works crap and i cant even breathe regular air now, i just keep smelling this crap that got sprayed.
god i hate this smell.
Do not ever believe that insults fuels a person's wishes for succeeding in a game or sport. It will more than often push a person away from the activity, and very few will be "provoked" into working at becoming the best that way. Insults is not criticism, and i tis not constructive in any way.
It is absolutely NOT a requirement for a competitive community to spew bile and insults at eachother, although I notice that several people seem to think so. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Firewater speaks the truth, I remember when he insulted me hardcore back in late 1.04 when I was a pub nub, then again when I made my first clan, and when I wanted to give up on ns clans I remembered "I'd just be justifying the things he said"
Granted firewater had some impact on my own gaming "career" He wasn't the only one.
So, yeah, I do thank you firewater for making me look like a moron 2-3 years ago.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Applying the traits of one to the masses, are we?
Also recieving insults has worked on numerous occasion for a person to work harder, in real life.
Take Dr. Martin Luther King, Ghandi, and women in general as a few examples. They were heavily criticized by
the powers at be (which just happen to be white people) but instead of crying about it, they did something about it.
Unlike the people who criticized those two fine men and the women I gave the team I criticized advice on how to succeed at clan play. That was arrogantly dismissed, which was kind of expected, but at the same time only supports my point about mindset.
But did they do good because he was insulted or would he have done it regardless? Hmmmm <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Edit: What I am saying that "insulting makes them better" is not a truth. It may for some work that way, but for many others it may not. Many environments that train olympic contesters does not really endorse insulting, for example.
I believe you are confusing providing a challenging environment with insults.
Edit edit: Got to love cross-editing.
Edit edit edit: It's a nice touch how you tuck your own goodness into this.
not that we'd be better off if like half the people in this community were dead that is
You get better and learn. FAT treated the competitive community just as bad as the competitive community is treating them.
I refuse to praise a team that can't take insults from "Cyber-athletes" as these comments should just be ignored, not require comfort.
I told them generally what to do, and they know who else to goto for help. Whether or not the competitive community likes them/insults/criticize should not affect their performanc in game.
Think what would happen if NBA, MLB, or NFL athletes took out an ad for everytime fans Booed them. They would embarass themselves, their families, and the league in which they compete.
The fact that this team had some of its members react to what is being said tells me that they are not ready for competition, as they have been distracted from winning. My week 5 prediction still stands.
You and the makers of this thread are confusing criticism with personal attacks. No one thinks they're bad people for being bad at NS. If you're not willing to open your eyes to the possibility of having room to improve, and take offense at seeing "Good team > Your Team: because Your Team has bad players" in a prediction thread, you should not be playing anything competitively. It's not something everyone is made for or even would enjoy. But there's a certain breed of people that thrives on testosterone, insults, and shoving. These people like to play with each other, so leagues of everything from video games to flag foot ball are organized around the world. There are other people who would rather just play for fun and not get their shoes muddy. These people play pick up soccer at the park and stick to pub servers in video games. Putting one type of person into the wrong type of game yields results like this thread.
If you take offense at friendly jabs in the locker room, you're not meant to be on the team. Similarly, if you're a ballhog at the park and ruining everyone's fun with taunts and rough play, you should probably go try out for a real team. Do I even make sense?
I've never once insulted their characteristics as a person, only their ability to accept insults/criticism, and their performance in game.
Also recieving insults has worked on numerous occasion for a person to work harder, in real life.
Take Dr. Martin Luther King, Ghandi, and women in general as a few examples. They were heavily criticized by
the powers at be (which just happen to be white people) but instead of crying about it, they did something about it.
Unlike the people who criticized those two fine men and the women I gave the team I criticized advice on how to succeed at clan play. That was arrogantly dismissed, which was kind of expected, but at the same time only supports my point about mindset. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So in this analogy, you're the one of the "white people" (because women are only oppressed in white culture) who criticized/lynched (the analogy from NS to civil rights breaks here anyway) blacks, pacifists, and women? And you're advocating this train of thought? This is the most absurd thing I think I've EVER read, roflmao.
I don't know what's worse, your revoltingly sanctimonious (though greatly humorous for the first time which gave impetus for me to break my "no more posts in this thread" claim) writing style, your confusion of several key words like "criticize" and "insult", what I'll call "selective reading", or your inept reasoning full of gems like these.
Hopefully my REAL last post in this thread, but I am sigging what you wrote so I never forget the joy it brought me. Originally I was gonna go with the "5th week" "criticism".
If tank wasn't a mod, you'd probably be flaming-err "criticizing" him too I'm sure.
Your portrait of the "real" and "common" player do not fit with people I personally know that compete on international level in sports like Tae Kwon Do, running and handball. Because of this, I really have a hard time connecting an <b>insulting</b> environment with being good and the desire to become better and compete.
Edit: I never said Firewater insulted them either, but I strongly disagree with this statement: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well if they weren't getting picked on there would be no reason for change as they would already achieve the goal that they previously had to work for with said insults and criticism.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But the important thing to realise is this: it's just banter. If on a public i say olol I suck I don't expect you to go emo on me and quit. This sort of banter goes back and forth all the time between people, be it in real life, on IRC, on ventrillo or in-game. If you're not exposed to it in real life then sure it might come as a shock, but welcome to the internet, you're always going to be exposed to a wide variety of people that you're constitution doesn't allow you to deal with it.
I've dished out plenty of this stuff in the past and i've recieved enough of it too, it's all fun and games. The internet is one big pantomine and until you learn this fact you're going to find yourself on the recieving end of things. Hell it's even funnier for people when you start to cry about it. Just smile and dish it back, people will like you more if you can exchange a witty little jab.
EDIT: Didn't you quit this game FW?! ZING.
Also I'm sure your friends who are Olympians would not make an announcement to stop insulting them. I am more than sure that they do get insulted by other teams using gamesmanship as a strategy. Obviously if they are olympians, they are very skilled at what they do, so much so that they ignore everything that is said about them, and continue to compete at their best possible level.
I am all for positive training, as I am a pretty positive person (hard to believe on these boards I know) but in competition, one must never reveal weakness. One person from FAT did that by making this thread. He made his team look weak. There is nothing positive about it and I refuse to lie to people, internet or real life and say "hey its ok".
I told them what they needed to do, lets see if they can do it, or not.
Also recieving insults has worked on numerous occasion for a person to work harder, in real life.
Take Dr. Martin Luther King, Ghandi, and women in general as a few examples. They were heavily criticized by
the powers at be (which just happen to be white people) but instead of crying about it, they did something about it.
Unlike the people who criticized those two fine men and the women I gave the team I criticized advice on how to succeed at clan play. That was arrogantly dismissed, which was kind of expected, but at the same time only supports my point about mindset. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So in this analogy, you're the one of the "white people" (because women are only oppressed in white culture) who criticized/lynched (the analogy from NS to civil rights breaks here anyway) blacks, pacifists, and women? And you're advocating this train of thought? This is the most absurd thing I think I've EVER read, roflmao.
I don't know what's worse, your revoltingly sanctimonious (though greatly humorous for the first time which gave impetus for me to break my "no more posts in this thread" claim) writing style, your confusion of several key words like "criticize" and "insult", what I'll call "selective reading", or your inept reasoning full of gems like these.
Hopefully my REAL last post in this thread, but I am sigging what you wrote so I never forget the joy it brought me. Originally I was gonna go with the "5th week" "criticism".
If tank wasn't a mod, you'd probably be flaming-err "criticizing" him too I'm sure. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well you have taken my post out of context, blatently expected. You want to call me a racist, so be it, I am over it.
I have no problem criticizing people based on their logic, rather than their social status within a community. I have criticized Flayra, Nem0, and other higher ups based on their logic. And I have also received critiques from them as well. The fact that Tankfugl is a developer/mod does not that person is incapable of logic errors.
eSocial Status doesn't mean anything to me, but apparently to your team it seems to be invaluable.
Also none of them have made Emo threads to stop insulting them.
You did the same thing to my thread.
Firewater, please start over and read all of my posts. I did no crying.
I'm merely a concerned NSer wanting his fellows to act at a higher level than the "CS noobs" which this community thinks it is so much better than.
Now stop making fools of yourselves. I made a simple post. Stop destroying it. Any mod, please lock this up.
Team's are supposed to be represented by their players.
Also Elitomat didn't say "Stop insulting me" he said "Stop the insults" and proceeded to drag his team into the equation.
Thats how <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Also I count 3 players, Elitomat, Splintersteve, and You.
You can stop wondering now.