They allow people that like to jump with the keyboard to do so, for one.
My question is this: If you're so adamant about a TOTALLY FAIR playing field, why are you not raising a stink about consistency being 0 on nearly every server? Are hot pink skulk models fair?
<!--QuoteBegin-Raz+Jun 30 2005, 11:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Raz @ Jun 30 2005, 11:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They allow people that like to jump with the keyboard to do so, for one.
My question is this: If you're so adamant about a TOTALLY FAIR playing field, why are you not raising a stink about consistency being 0 on nearly every server? Are hot pink skulk models fair? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, Raz, why don't YOU make a server, why don't YOU put consistency on, and see how many people you get?
<!--QuoteBegin-Fatal Error+Jun 30 2005, 03:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatal Error @ Jun 30 2005, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->God. Average post in this topic: I'M GONNA KIL MYSELF IF U DONT PUT BS OFF1
Guys, if you're so good at the game, why the hell do you NEED the scripts?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Amen.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->They allow people that like to jump with the keyboard to do so, for one.
My question is this: If you're so adamant about a TOTALLY FAIR playing field, why are you not raising a stink about consistency being 0 on nearly every server? Are hot pink skulk models fair?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
People who want to jump with their keyboard should learn how, like i said. People who bunny hop with mousewheel are nearly as bad, although i do have abit of respect for them because i can't do it to save my life, but that may just be because i'm no used to it.
About your question, the topic name is 'Whats The Point Of Mp_blockscripts', if you want to discuss consistency try a new topic.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->@Ahnteis EDIT: You are basically saying "Don't like it, then leave." -- and that's exactly what people are doing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You state blockscript is the reason (or one of the reason) that make people leave NS. Blockscript is here since enough time to make people leave NS sooner than 3.0F
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->@stallioN A lot of scripts are just there for convenience, such as rebinding a set of keys for different alien classes. For instance I use a small blink script for mouse2 as a Fade, yet if I Skulk, then it rebinds that to lastinv. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Use command menu. The command menu can make all you want. You can set a lot of "key bindings" using the command-menu. I use one mostly for radio messages / alien building impulse.
Something like : (syntax may not be accurate) <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->"1" "menu" { "1" "configs" { "1" "alien conf" "exec binding_for_alien.cfg" "2" "marins conf" "exec binding_for_marins.cfg" } }<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
You just have to bind the command menu in one key (function key for example) to acces it. You can add a lot of things for administrating a server like change map, settings (tournament, timelimite etc...)
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->@CommunistWithAGun SCRIPTS ARE NOT SOME SECRET FORBIDDEN ART-FORM EVERYONE CAN USE THEM IT IS ANOTHER FORM OF CUSTOMIZING YOUR CONTROL SET NOT A INSTANT SKILL-O-MATIC <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well. "Not a secret": yes ; "Form of customizing": yes, but to avoid people with bad intentions to abuse this; Dev's had to put a limit : blockscript.
"Skill-o-matic" yes... indeed... A scripted fade can be much more efficient (kill) than a non scripted one (even a high-skilled player). The so called "blink-metabolize" or "blink-swipe" were THE scripts "a la mode". It was common to see fades with 50+ kills and DC running... hmmm no no no FLYING all over the map... with infinite adrenaline (2hives). Usually a good one can do a 30+/- score, and that's not common. 20~25 kills sounds more usual (pub). For clans it's a lower score due to amount of players/strategy/teamplay (traps for fades)/synchronized rush that end the game etc. Then came blockscript. And these fades were not making 50 kills a round as someone stated before.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->@mr ben. "But how do you know firstly that the player had a script unless he tells you. Secondly"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I remember some anticheat were able to analyze the config.cfg (and other file called by exec). HLguard? something like that.
Well now. What is script and and what is not script? Script is a set of command under one key. This set of command can be "+jump;+duck" for the armless ones. But this can be something like this for fades "slot2(blink); +attack; wait; wait; slot1; +attack". or pistol scripts.
As long as it combine 2 moves or attacks it is not anymore something you do with your fingers. This cannot be called skill either. And as long at it gives an advantage.
For example pistol script : You aim one time and fire one time. You still can miss... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> but it's more easy to aim one time than 10 times as it should be...
I think Blockscript is a good thing. Thank you devs.
I think a much better variable for pubs would be a mp_blocksensoryoffensechambersandturrets.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> For example pistol script : You aim one time and fire one time. You still can miss... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> but it's more easy to aim one time than 10 times as it should be...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes because my pistol hacks prevent other players from moving after I shoot.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->God. Average post in this topic: I'M GONNA KIL MYSELF IF U DONT PUT BS OFF1<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lay off the bulls*it and calm down, like the rest of us are.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Guys, if you're so good at the game, why the hell do you NEED the scripts?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
when do you realise no-one needs scripts, people use it because they choose to do so
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->EDIT: I use one of my mouse buttons for jumping. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
point being? i use mousewheel. its a matter of what the **** you prefer to use.
in your opinion. someone else might have a different one. you can say "Scripts are, honestly, truly, really, no trust me, uncomfortable" and its still just your bloody opinion.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Perhaps you should all look at yourself before complaining.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
elaborate please. vague comments, seeking to put yourself above other people because of their opinion on something, well is there a word for that? sorry english is my third language.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, Raz, why don't YOU make a server, why don't YOU put consistency on, and see how many people you get?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
why should he, i mean hes just pointing out the amount of hypocricy certain server admins bathe in
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Use command menu. The command menu can make all you want. You can set a lot of "key bindings" using the command-menu. I use one mostly for radio messages / alien building impulse.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
the command menu is cool but often too slow and inconvenient.
it is no more of a secret than any else customisation option, bar the in-game options menu.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"Skill-o-matic" yes... indeed... A scripted fade can be much more efficient (kill) than a non scripted one (even a high-skilled player).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
prove it.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I remember some anticheat were able to analyze the config.cfg (and other file called by exec). HLguard? something like that.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
thats so easy to evade i dont understand why u even mentioned it
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Then came blockscript. And these fades were not making 50 kills a round as someone stated before.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
indeed, and guess why: if they were using scripts, then they had to change the way they play after scripts were suddenly not allowed. it takes a while to adapt you know.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"Skill-o-matic" yes... indeed... A scripted fade can be much more efficient (kill) than a non scripted one (even a high-skilled player)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You can't be serious. That is hilarious.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Then came blockscript. And these fades were not making 50 kills a round as someone stated before.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, that's certainly odd. I seemed pretty unstoppable on a pub yesterday, and I had no l33t scripts.
This topic is so worthless. The people who argue against scripting have almost to a man never actually tried it.
If you had any sense about the game at all you'd know that air control, swipe accuracy, and experience makes a good fade.
Oh by the way tobold, I want to see your elite spacebar bhop.
Okay, lets figure something out. People here claim that there's a scripting "agenda" so we can all use scripts and pwnzor teh pubbars, and they won't know what we're doing.
But wait!? Scripting has been around far longer than this game has!?
Okay, well, that doesn't matter. It's still a secret thing that only the darkest cults of high-tier gaming know about. That's why you can google it for about a billion hits, and there's a sub-forum in this forum to discuss it.
Well scripts obviously play the game for you. I would know as I wouldn't touch them because they play the game for you leet newbies.
1 TIME I SAW DIS GUY AND HE WAS LIEK 'RAWR MY SCRIPST PWN U LOWL' ADN DEN WE SAYS 'LAME' AND HE LEFT PROVING CONCLUSIVLY BLAH BLAH BLAH Because your random encounters with players of questionable skill levels proves that they're unfair, whereas some of the most respected players in the community who have much more experiance behind them say/show otherwise.
You still shouldn't need scripts if you're truely skilled like me. Because you're the god of gaming and your mighty wrath will befall anyone who decides to play the game different than you, right? Watch out, someone might be playing with the arrow keys! He now has unfair easier access to buttons such as "delete, pgdwn, and home!" This crime should not go unpunished.
Folks, I don't know where you get your ideas on scripting. Truely abusive scripts aside which are blocked anyways due to the removal of _special, they're nothing more than a way to fine tune your controls. So you want to fire when you lift your mouse as well as when you click it. Be my guest, save your finger and your mouse some wear and tear. So you want to use space bar rather than mwheel to Bhop, or your computer is slow and your Mwheel is garbage. Fine by me, nothing wrong with a more even playing playing field.
You all talk and talk about unfairness, but you know what? It's never going to be identical. Your ping will NEVER be identical along with choke and loss, your FPS, your machine. Unless you want to start a "Free computer with every download" project, and send everyone who DL's the game the exact same computer, and change the weather around the world so it's identical, and give everyone the same internet provider, and have everyone live the same distance from said provider, and make everyone have identical reaction times, then yeah, I suppose an "even playing field" is possible.
Since it's not, allow people the freedom to play comfortably. It's a simple request.
<!--QuoteBegin-Fatal Error+Jun 30 2005, 10:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatal Error @ Jun 30 2005, 10:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Raz+Jun 30 2005, 11:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Raz @ Jun 30 2005, 11:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They allow people that like to jump with the keyboard to do so, for one.
My question is this: If you're so adamant about a TOTALLY FAIR playing field, why are you not raising a stink about consistency being 0 on nearly every server? Are hot pink skulk models fair? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, Raz, why don't YOU make a server, why don't YOU put consistency on, and see how many people you get?
Last post. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> maybe you should stop using spiked models you cheater
change one model and the game plays itself for you huh, if you're so good why do you need spiked models?
don't give me this "customization" ****, the playing field should be even.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->People who bunny hop with mousewheel are nearly as bad, although i do have abit of respect for them because i can't do it to save my life, but that may just be because i'm no used to it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the command menu is cool but often too slow and inconvenient. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It takes 1 sec to change my config from alien to marins or commander... slow?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This topic is so worthless. The people who argue against scripting have almost to a man never actually tried it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I had a 3jump in right mouse button. Confort: yes. but mwheelup/down for jump is the same for me.
You can't deny the fact that a script which gives you the ability to "blink, change weapon, and hit the oponent is not helping. If there was no interest to do scripts; script wouldn't be a topic and wouldn't have a dedicated section on this forum.
But still, script is still something you don't do with your finger during the game.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you had any sense about the game at all you'd know that air control, swipe accuracy, and experience makes a good fade.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Who said that you have to be a noob to use scripts ? The more the competition is giving pride/glory the more the temptation is strong... ... ... BS 1 avoid this question; who has the best script?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oh by the way tobold, I want to see your elite spacebar bhop.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
More hard but not impossible. I tried too... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> mouse button works too. How many double-clik you make everyday? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Is scripting is playing? These two words describe something really different to my opinion... and the possibility to use of mp_bs 1 makes me think i'm not alone...
<!--QuoteBegin-UncleCrunch!+Jun 30 2005, 01:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UncleCrunch! @ Jun 30 2005, 01:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You can't deny the fact that a script which gives you the ability to "blink, change weapon, and hit the oponent is not helping <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> it doesn't hit the opponent, it slashes in front of you
mwheel blink is much better than a blink swipe script
I play on a server with consistency on. Every evening it's full-up or pretty close to it. I don't know if that's because the regulars changed from custom models to default because they liked the server, that a lot of people actually don't use custom models, or that it gets a lot of competitive players. But a server can easily get by with mp_consistency 1, and friendly fire for that matter. So I don't really see why you're implying that a server will die because players can't use custom models, Fatal Error.
I'm not implying that a server won't get players, just that you'll need a strong fanbase that's willing to stay with the server. You'll get a lot more comp players than you will others.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->maybe you should stop using spiked models you cheater
change one model and the game plays itself for you huh, if you're so good why do you need spiked models?
don't give me this "customization" ****, the playing field should be even. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Who the **** ever said I use spiked models? I use low poly models because my machine can't handle anything else.
And spiked models are a different than scripts. Spiked models ruin the game, scripts are just helpers. I'm not against scripts at all, play anyway you want. Just DON'T WHINE when things aren't your way! you don't like BS? Get HLSW and don't play on BS servers! It's that simple.
<!--QuoteBegin-Fatal Error+Jun 30 2005, 01:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatal Error @ Jun 30 2005, 01:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm not implying that a server won't get players, just that you'll need a strong fanbase that's willing to stay with the server. You'll get a lot more comp players than you will others.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->maybe you should stop using spiked models you cheater
change one model and the game plays itself for you huh, if you're so good why do you need spiked models?
don't give me this "customization" ****, the playing field should be even. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Who the **** ever said I use spiked models? I use low poly models because my machine can't handle anything else.
And spiked models are a different than scripts. Spiked models ruin the game, scripts are just helpers. I'm not against scripts at all, play anyway you want. Just DON'T WHINE when things aren't your way! you don't like BS? Get HLSW and don't play on BS servers! It's that simple. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> don't whine if your custom models were taken away because the majority said so
also i'd like to see a "blink-meta-swipe" script, it seems that would use too many waits to really be useful honestly, unless you like locking up mid-blink
No fade using weapon switch scripts or blink/swipe whatever is going to be better than me, or any other decent player. Stop telling people to go to bs_0 servers because there are only 10 of them. Admins have bs_1 because they don't know how to change it, or they don't know anything about scripts.
<!--QuoteBegin-skifly+Jun 30 2005, 02:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (skifly @ Jun 30 2005, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No fade using weapon switch scripts or blink/swipe whatever is going to be better than me, or any other decent player. Stop telling people to go to bs_0 servers because there are only 10 of them. Admins have bs_1 because they don't know how to change it, or they don't know anything about scripts. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> mp_bs is off by default
<!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jun 30 2005, 02:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jun 30 2005, 02:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-skifly+Jun 30 2005, 02:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (skifly @ Jun 30 2005, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No fade using weapon switch scripts or blink/swipe whatever is going to be better than me, or any other decent player. Stop telling people to go to bs_0 servers because there are only 10 of them. Admins have bs_1 because they don't know how to change it, or they don't know anything about scripts. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> mp_bs is off by default <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> But the description of the variable says that it blocks - and I quote - "Malicious scripts." So of course any admin who doesn't know about scripts and scripting will turn it on.
"There are those motocyclers that have crashed and those who haven't"
But in context of the Thread:
"There are those players that have scripted and those who haven't"
I was avid against scripts when I was a pubber, hell i can remember have the same arguments of those who are against them in this thread. Now I truely know what scripting is all about, and it is no where close to cheating.
I encourage anyone who is against scripting to atleast try them for a few rounds. If you like I would even give a introductory class on how to use them and their downfalls. Just dont comment how what they do if you havent used them, or only observed from 3rd person. PM me if your interested.
CWAG has truely earned that title. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I don't understand a lot of what you people say about scripts. I mean you say it gives no advantage over people who don't use them. Then you say they should be allowed. That's kind of contradicting. If they give no advantage then why use them? Why even allow something that provides 0 use to you? Is there any point to having them allowed if they do NOTHING? Can anyone please explain this to me?
One thing I must comment on, since some people believe that pistol scripts could be abusive or unfair... if the pistol wasn't meant to be shot that fast, why won't the devs just lower its rate of fire?
I remember when I first went from non-scripting to scripting. The pistol script kinda useless for me... I was use to firing really fast without a script so when the script was on, I actually shot at either the same speed or a little slower due to the pistol cap. Only when I stopped clicking so fast and relaxed when pistol shooting did the pistol script actually do what it was suppose to do, and it still didn't shoot any faster, just my mouse thanked me for not abusing it so much.
<!--QuoteBegin-Tobold+Jun 30 2005, 10:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tobold @ Jun 30 2005, 10:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I disagree with the use of three jump. If you want to learn to bunny hop, just get some hand eye coodination and time when you hit space. Not that hard <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Please learn what the bhop is, the speed does not come from jumping it comes from the mid-air strafe and mouse movement, the timing merely hold you at whatever speed gained from the strafe/mouse movement.
<!--QuoteBegin-Bobbybirdtree+Jun 30 2005, 04:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bobbybirdtree @ Jun 30 2005, 04:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't understand a lot of what you people say about scripts. I mean you say it gives no advantage over people who don't use them. Then you say they should be allowed. That's kind of contradicting. If they give no advantage then why use them? Why even allow something that provides 0 use to you? Is there any point to having them allowed if they do NOTHING? Can anyone please explain this to me? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> they allow you to use a key instead of the mousewheel.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You can't deny the fact that a script which gives you the ability to "blink, change weapon, and hit the oponent is not helping. If there was no interest to do scripts; script wouldn't be a topic and wouldn't have a dedicated section on this forum.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Try it. You'll find that it's not nearly as good as you think it is. Anyone who thinks a blinkswipe script has no disadvantages has NOT tried it. Period. Please don't argue this topic if you do not inform yourself beforehand.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->BS 1 avoid this question; who has the best script?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Gee, since most clanners don't use a script aside from pistol and 3jump and config stuff, the best script is obviously NO script.
The ONLY reason that this is an issue is because of the uninformed masses, it's as simple as that. How about you educate <i>YOURSELF</i> before you try to educate <i>OTHERS</i> about something that you only know about from hearsay?
Pistol script had a bad rep from the time when there was either no speed cap ir a very low one. Please note there is a pistol speed cap now. a pistol script does not turn you into an ungodly pistol emptier, and TACTICS still means everything in NS. Noone I know plays worse on bs 1 than 0.
A key example of this would be Duo. I've played bs 1 with him and he was doing the most infuriating weaving about, making it nearly impossible to hit his skulk when he approached me.
I found out later that since he uses a jumpscript that he can not hop on a bs 1 server. Yet he still destroyed everyone from just adapting.
The bottom line here is that scripting most benefits <i>YOU</i>, the semi-skilled pubber. It makes jumping easier so you can learn your bhop better.It makes timing your pistol less strenuous on your mouse and your finger.
Yet in your blind rage to remove scripts from clanners, you completely overlook the fact that dedicated ns players are going to know how to play with and without, while a training pubber is just going to be overwhelmed and unable and unwilling to change his config every time he joins a server. What if a poor fellow is trying to learn how to hop? Would you like to rebind your keys every time you change?
As far as I can tell the point was to stop _special which allowed for loops. Loops were the holy grail of scripting until they got discovered and it was decided they were an exploit.
Anyways, from what I've seen, it is the majority of pub players (or atleast the server ops )that don't like scripts. Let them have mp_bs 1. This way the better players will play together on the few mp_bs 0 servers.
Many anti scipters are very ignorant about scripts. Ignorance lead to fear, fear leads to hate, and hate leads to the dark side (mp_bs 1).
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Guys, if you're so good at the game, why the hell do you NEED the scripts?
EDIT: I use one of my mouse buttons for jumping. Scripts are honestly, uncomfortable. Perhaps you should all look at yourself before complaining.
This is my last post in this topic, unless someone says something to me.
My question is this: If you're so adamant about a TOTALLY FAIR playing field, why are you not raising a stink about consistency being 0 on nearly every server? Are hot pink skulk models fair?
My question is this: If you're so adamant about a TOTALLY FAIR playing field, why are you not raising a stink about consistency being 0 on nearly every server? Are hot pink skulk models fair? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, Raz, why don't YOU make a server, why don't YOU put consistency on, and see how many people you get?
Last post.
Guys, if you're so good at the game, why the hell do you NEED the scripts?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Amen.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->They allow people that like to jump with the keyboard to do so, for one.
My question is this: If you're so adamant about a TOTALLY FAIR playing field, why are you not raising a stink about consistency being 0 on nearly every server? Are hot pink skulk models fair?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
People who want to jump with their keyboard should learn how, like i said. People who bunny hop with mousewheel are nearly as bad, although i do have abit of respect for them because i can't do it to save my life, but that may just be because i'm no used to it.
About your question, the topic name is 'Whats The Point Of Mp_blockscripts', if you want to discuss consistency try a new topic.
EDIT: You are basically saying "Don't like it, then leave." -- and that's exactly what people are doing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You state blockscript is the reason (or one of the reason) that make people leave NS. Blockscript is here since enough time to make people leave NS sooner than 3.0F
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->@stallioN
A lot of scripts are just there for convenience, such as rebinding a set of keys for different alien classes. For instance I use a small blink script for mouse2 as a Fade, yet if I Skulk, then it rebinds that to lastinv. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Use command menu. The command menu can make all you want. You can set a lot of "key bindings" using the command-menu. I use one mostly for radio messages / alien building impulse.
Something like : (syntax may not be accurate)
<!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->"1" "menu"
{
"1" "configs"
{
"1" "alien conf" "exec binding_for_alien.cfg"
"2" "marins conf" "exec binding_for_marins.cfg"
}
}<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
You just have to bind the command menu in one key (function key for example) to acces it. You can add a lot of things for administrating a server like change map, settings (tournament, timelimite etc...)
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->@CommunistWithAGun
SCRIPTS ARE NOT SOME SECRET FORBIDDEN ART-FORM EVERYONE CAN USE THEM IT IS ANOTHER FORM OF CUSTOMIZING YOUR CONTROL SET NOT A INSTANT SKILL-O-MATIC <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well. "Not a secret": yes ; "Form of customizing": yes, but to avoid people with bad intentions to abuse this; Dev's had to put a limit : blockscript.
"Skill-o-matic" yes... indeed... A scripted fade can be much more efficient (kill) than a non scripted one (even a high-skilled player). The so called "blink-metabolize" or "blink-swipe" were THE scripts "a la mode". It was common to see fades with 50+ kills and DC running... hmmm no no no FLYING all over the map... with infinite adrenaline (2hives). Usually a good one can do a 30+/- score, and that's not common. 20~25 kills sounds more usual (pub). For clans it's a lower score due to amount of players/strategy/teamplay (traps for fades)/synchronized rush that end the game etc. Then came blockscript. And these fades were not making 50 kills a round as someone stated before.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->@mr ben.
"But how do you know firstly that the player had a script unless he tells you. Secondly"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I remember some anticheat were able to analyze the config.cfg (and other file called by exec). HLguard? something like that.
Well now. What is script and and what is not script? Script is a set of command under one key. This set of command can be "+jump;+duck" for the armless ones. But this can be something like this for fades "slot2(blink); +attack; wait; wait; slot1; +attack". or pistol scripts.
As long as it combine 2 moves or attacks it is not anymore something you do with your fingers. This cannot be called skill either. And as long at it gives an advantage.
For example pistol script : You aim one time and fire one time. You still can miss... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> but it's more easy to aim one time than 10 times as it should be...
I think Blockscript is a good thing. Thank you devs.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
For example pistol script : You aim one time and fire one time. You still can miss... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> but it's more easy to aim one time than 10 times as it should be...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes because my pistol hacks prevent other players from moving after I shoot.
lay off the bulls*it and calm down, like the rest of us are.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Guys, if you're so good at the game, why the hell do you NEED the scripts?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
when do you realise no-one needs scripts, people use it because they choose to do so
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->EDIT: I use one of my mouse buttons for jumping. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
point being? i use mousewheel. its a matter of what the **** you prefer to use.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Scripts are honestly, uncomfortable. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
in your opinion. someone else might have a different one. you can say "Scripts are, honestly, truly, really, no trust me, uncomfortable" and its still just your bloody opinion.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Perhaps you should all look at yourself before complaining.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
elaborate please. vague comments, seeking to put yourself above other people because of their opinion on something, well is there a word for that? sorry english is my third language.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, Raz, why don't YOU make a server, why don't YOU put consistency on, and see how many people you get?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
why should he, i mean hes just pointing out the amount of hypocricy certain server admins bathe in
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Use command menu. The command menu can make all you want. You can set a lot of "key bindings" using the command-menu. I use one mostly for radio messages / alien building impulse.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
the command menu is cool but often too slow and inconvenient.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well. "Not a secret": yes ;<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it is no more of a secret than any else customisation option, bar the in-game options menu.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"Skill-o-matic" yes... indeed... A scripted fade can be much more efficient (kill) than a non scripted one (even a high-skilled player).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
prove it.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I remember some anticheat were able to analyze the config.cfg (and other file called by exec). HLguard? something like that.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
thats so easy to evade i dont understand why u even mentioned it
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Then came blockscript. And these fades were not making 50 kills a round as someone stated before.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
indeed, and guess why: if they were using scripts, then they had to change the way they play after scripts were suddenly not allowed. it takes a while to adapt you know.
You can't be serious. That is hilarious.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Then came blockscript. And these fades were not making 50 kills a round as someone stated before.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, that's certainly odd. I seemed pretty unstoppable on a pub yesterday, and I had no l33t scripts.
This topic is so worthless. The people who argue against scripting have almost to a man never actually tried it.
If you had any sense about the game at all you'd know that air control, swipe accuracy, and experience makes a good fade.
Oh by the way tobold, I want to see your elite spacebar bhop.
Okay, lets figure something out. People here claim that there's a scripting "agenda" so we can all use scripts and pwnzor teh pubbars, and they won't know what we're doing.
But wait!?
Scripting has been around far longer than this game has!?
Okay, well, that doesn't matter. It's still a secret thing that only the darkest cults of high-tier gaming know about.
That's why you can google it for about a billion hits, and there's a sub-forum in this forum to discuss it.
Well scripts obviously play the game for you.
I would know as I wouldn't touch them because they play the game for you leet newbies.
1 TIME I SAW DIS GUY AND HE WAS LIEK 'RAWR MY SCRIPST PWN U LOWL' ADN DEN WE SAYS 'LAME' AND HE LEFT PROVING CONCLUSIVLY BLAH BLAH BLAH
Because your random encounters with players of questionable skill levels proves that they're unfair, whereas some of the most respected players in the community who have much more experiance behind them say/show otherwise.
You still shouldn't need scripts if you're truely skilled like me.
Because you're the god of gaming and your mighty wrath will befall anyone who decides to play the game different than you, right? Watch out, someone might be playing with the arrow keys! He now has unfair easier access to buttons such as "delete, pgdwn, and home!" This crime should not go unpunished.
Folks, I don't know where you get your ideas on scripting. Truely abusive scripts aside which are blocked anyways due to the removal of _special, they're nothing more than a way to fine tune your controls. So you want to fire when you lift your mouse as well as when you click it. Be my guest, save your finger and your mouse some wear and tear. So you want to use space bar rather than mwheel to Bhop, or your computer is slow and your Mwheel is garbage. Fine by me, nothing wrong with a more even playing playing field.
You all talk and talk about unfairness, but you know what? It's never going to be identical. Your ping will NEVER be identical along with choke and loss, your FPS, your machine. Unless you want to start a "Free computer with every download" project, and send everyone who DL's the game the exact same computer, and change the weather around the world so it's identical, and give everyone the same internet provider, and have everyone live the same distance from said provider, and make everyone have identical reaction times, then yeah, I suppose an "even playing field" is possible.
Since it's not, allow people the freedom to play comfortably. It's a simple request.
Thanks for your time.
<i>yawn</i>
My question is this: If you're so adamant about a TOTALLY FAIR playing field, why are you not raising a stink about consistency being 0 on nearly every server? Are hot pink skulk models fair? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, Raz, why don't YOU make a server, why don't YOU put consistency on, and see how many people you get?
Last post. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
maybe you should stop using spiked models you cheater
change one model and the game plays itself for you huh, if you're so good why do you need spiked models?
don't give me this "customization" ****, the playing field should be even.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->People who bunny hop with mousewheel are nearly as bad, although i do have abit of respect for them because i can't do it to save my life, but that may just be because i'm no used to it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
hahahahahaha
It takes 1 sec to change my config from alien to marins or commander... slow?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This topic is so worthless. The people who argue against scripting have almost to a man never actually tried it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I had a 3jump in right mouse button. Confort: yes. but mwheelup/down for jump is the same for me.
You can't deny the fact that a script which gives you the ability to "blink, change weapon, and hit the oponent is not helping. If there was no interest to do scripts; script wouldn't be a topic and wouldn't have a dedicated section on this forum.
But still, script is still something you don't do with your finger during the game.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you had any sense about the game at all you'd know that air control, swipe accuracy, and experience makes a good fade.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Who said that you have to be a noob to use scripts ? The more the competition is giving pride/glory the more the temptation is strong... ... ... BS 1 avoid this question; who has the best script?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oh by the way tobold, I want to see your elite spacebar bhop.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
More hard but not impossible. I tried too... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> mouse button works too. How many double-clik you make everyday? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Is scripting is playing? These two words describe something really different to my opinion... and the possibility to use of mp_bs 1 makes me think i'm not alone...
it doesn't hit the opponent, it slashes in front of you
mwheel blink is much better than a blink swipe script
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->maybe you should stop using spiked models you cheater
change one model and the game plays itself for you huh, if you're so good why do you need spiked models?
don't give me this "customization" ****, the playing field should be even.
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Who the **** ever said I use spiked models? I use low poly models because my machine can't handle anything else.
And spiked models are a different than scripts. Spiked models ruin the game, scripts are just helpers. I'm not against scripts at all, play anyway you want. Just DON'T WHINE when things aren't your way! you don't like BS? Get HLSW and don't play on BS servers! It's that simple.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->maybe you should stop using spiked models you cheater
change one model and the game plays itself for you huh, if you're so good why do you need spiked models?
don't give me this "customization" ****, the playing field should be even.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Who the **** ever said I use spiked models? I use low poly models because my machine can't handle anything else.
And spiked models are a different than scripts. Spiked models ruin the game, scripts are just helpers. I'm not against scripts at all, play anyway you want. Just DON'T WHINE when things aren't your way! you don't like BS? Get HLSW and don't play on BS servers! It's that simple. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
don't whine if your custom models were taken away because the majority said so
Stop telling people to go to bs_0 servers because there are only 10 of them. Admins have bs_1 because they don't know how to change it, or they don't know anything about scripts.
Stop telling people to go to bs_0 servers because there are only 10 of them. Admins have bs_1 because they don't know how to change it, or they don't know anything about scripts. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
mp_bs is off by default
Stop telling people to go to bs_0 servers because there are only 10 of them. Admins have bs_1 because they don't know how to change it, or they don't know anything about scripts. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
mp_bs is off by default <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
But the description of the variable says that it blocks - and I quote - "Malicious scripts." So of course any admin who doesn't know about scripts and scripting will turn it on.
"There are those motocyclers that have crashed and those who haven't"
But in context of the Thread:
"There are those players that have scripted and those who haven't"
I was avid against scripts when I was a pubber, hell i can remember have the same arguments of those who are against them in this thread. Now I truely know what scripting is all about, and it is no where close to cheating.
I encourage anyone who is against scripting to atleast try them for a few rounds. If you like I would even give a introductory class on how to use them and their downfalls. Just dont comment how what they do if you havent used them, or only observed from 3rd person. PM me if your interested.
CWAG has truely earned that title. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I dont really care about the fact that I cant use scripts as much I as do having every server be different. Its idiotic.
I remember when I first went from non-scripting to scripting. The pistol script kinda useless for me... I was use to firing really fast without a script so when the script was on, I actually shot at either the same speed or a little slower due to the pistol cap. Only when I stopped clicking so fast and relaxed when pistol shooting did the pistol script actually do what it was suppose to do, and it still didn't shoot any faster, just my mouse thanked me for not abusing it so much.
If you want to learn to bunny hop, just get some hand eye coodination and time when you hit space.
Not that hard <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Please learn what the bhop is, the speed does not come from jumping it comes from the mid-air strafe and mouse movement, the timing merely hold you at whatever speed gained from the strafe/mouse movement.
they allow you to use a key instead of the mousewheel.
Try it. You'll find that it's not nearly as good as you think it is. Anyone who thinks a blinkswipe script has no disadvantages has NOT tried it. Period. Please don't argue this topic if you do not inform yourself beforehand.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->BS 1 avoid this question; who has the best script?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Gee, since most clanners don't use a script aside from pistol and 3jump and config stuff, the best script is obviously NO script.
The ONLY reason that this is an issue is because of the uninformed masses, it's as simple as that. How about you educate <i>YOURSELF</i> before you try to educate <i>OTHERS</i> about something that you only know about from hearsay?
Pistol script had a bad rep from the time when there was either no speed cap ir a very low one. Please note there is a pistol speed cap now. a pistol script does not turn you into an ungodly pistol emptier, and TACTICS still means everything in NS. Noone I know plays worse on bs 1 than 0.
A key example of this would be Duo. I've played bs 1 with him and he was doing the most infuriating weaving about, making it nearly impossible to hit his skulk when he approached me.
I found out later that since he uses a jumpscript that he can not hop on a bs 1 server. Yet he still destroyed everyone from just adapting.
The bottom line here is that scripting most benefits <i>YOU</i>, the semi-skilled pubber. It makes jumping easier so you can learn your bhop better.It makes timing your pistol less strenuous on your mouse and your finger.
Yet in your blind rage to remove scripts from clanners, you completely overlook the fact that dedicated ns players are going to know how to play with and without, while a training pubber is just going to be overwhelmed and unable and unwilling to change his config every time he joins a server. What if a poor fellow is trying to learn how to hop? Would you like to rebind your keys every time you change?
Anyways, from what I've seen, it is the majority of pub players (or atleast the server ops )that don't like scripts. Let them have mp_bs 1. This way the better players will play together on the few mp_bs 0 servers.
Many anti scipters are very ignorant about scripts. Ignorance lead to fear, fear leads to hate, and hate leads to the dark side (mp_bs 1).