Whichever religion gives me a ticket to get into Valhalla when I die <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
then you have to die in battle <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
also, ReK, that only leaves budism <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Grizzly+Jun 20 2005, 12:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grizzly @ Jun 20 2005, 12:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> then you have to die in battle <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
also, ReK, that only leaves budism <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not true, it also leaves Drudic, Celtic, Hinduism, Taoism, and Jainism.
<!--QuoteBegin-Grizzly+Jun 20 2005, 12:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grizzly @ Jun 20 2005, 12:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Budism, its the most sane religion atm <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Being a Buddhist doesn't really appeal to me. I don't particularly feel that life is suffering (the noble truths, right?) , and there's no way I'm giving up booze and harsh language. (I think that's part of the eightfold way.) If I'm wrong about this, though, please correct me - it's been a long time since I looked at Buddhism.
I guess it all depends. Would we have to sincerely live by a religion? If so, I'd probably go for the one which gives me least bother.
NeonSpyder"Das est NTLDR?"Join Date: 2003-07-03Member: 17913Members
If Gem chooses any of the naked-dancing religions then i'd totally go for that one. if not i'd scoot myself over to the Buddhist side of the fence, that inner peace thing is just way too tempting pass up.
first choice is the naked dancing with Gem though. yep. *nods*
Anyone up for a bit of CMEastyism? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-CMEast+Jun 20 2005, 01:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CMEast @ Jun 20 2005, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anyone up for a bit of CMEastyism? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Depends. What can you give me in exchange for my immortal soul?
You're all welcome to join me. Everyone goes to heaven.
There's a $200 membership fee, then you need to be baptized, that's another 60$, then you can buy your holy robes ($120), and get the staff of healing ($300). Oh and if you wanna go to heaven you have to buy it as a package deal, everything plus another $1000.
STFUism... My religion is none of your business, your religion is none of my business, and my business wants none of your religion... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Jun 20 2005, 12:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jun 20 2005, 12:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Pfft. The sun provides all. Seriously, if I were going to worship something, it'd be the sun. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Worship the sun but direct your prayers to Joe Peshi?
<!--QuoteBegin-moultano+Jun 20 2005, 12:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Jun 20 2005, 12:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Something where the holidays are the solstices and equinoxes, and the subjects of worship are the beauty and majesty of life and the universe. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Wiccan or Celtic Paganism.
<!--QuoteBegin-Snidely+Jun 20 2005, 01:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Jun 20 2005, 01:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Grizzly+Jun 20 2005, 12:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grizzly @ Jun 20 2005, 12:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Budism, its the most sane religion atm <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Being a Buddhist doesn't really appeal to me. I don't particularly feel that life is suffering (the noble truths, right?) , and there's no way I'm giving up booze and harsh language. (I think that's part of the eightfold way.) If I'm wrong about this, though, please correct me - it's been a long time since I looked at Buddhism.
I guess it all depends. Would we have to sincerely live by a religion? If so, I'd probably go for the one which gives me least bother. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The most basic teaching of Buddhism is to walk on the middle path. Not too harsh and not too lax.
No booze and some other sinful stuffs are for the monks and those incredibly strict Buddhists.
<!--QuoteBegin-DrSuredeath+Jun 20 2005, 12:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrSuredeath @ Jun 20 2005, 12:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No booze and some other sinful stuffs are for the monks and those incredibly strict Buddhists. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That would be Shinto and Taoist Monks.. which are not neccessarily Buddism.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mullet+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mullet)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd be athiest. Religious people are too violent <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Athiests are just as violent, when you have extremes on both sides.
Shinto, Tao, and Jain monks are the most peaceful.
<!--QuoteBegin-moultano+Jun 20 2005, 01:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Jun 20 2005, 01:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Something where the holidays are the solstices and equinoxes, and the subjects of worship are the beauty and majesty of life and the universe. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I want to change my answer to this. In the meantime, I'll still be here, eating ice-cream while wearing nothing but underpants.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 20 2005, 01:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 20 2005, 01:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DrSuredeath+Jun 20 2005, 12:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrSuredeath @ Jun 20 2005, 12:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No booze and some other sinful stuffs are for the monks and those incredibly strict Buddhists. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That would be Shinto and Taoist Monks.. which are not neccessarily Buddism. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Wha? I don't get it.
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Can I change my mind and be one of those monks who can slam their way through a 4 inch thick piece of concrete using only their face? That's pretty hardcore.
<!--QuoteBegin-DrSuredeath+Jun 20 2005, 01:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrSuredeath @ Jun 20 2005, 01:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 20 2005, 01:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 20 2005, 01:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DrSuredeath+Jun 20 2005, 12:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrSuredeath @ Jun 20 2005, 12:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No booze and some other sinful stuffs are for the monks and those incredibly strict Buddhists. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That would be Shinto and Taoist Monks.. which are not neccessarily Buddism. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Wha? I don't get it.
<-- Lived in a country of 98% Buddhists. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteBegin-Taoism+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Taoism)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <i>Quoted for ease of reading.</i> Taoism: Taoism started as a combination of psychology and philosophy but evolved into a religious faith in 440 CE when it was adopted as a state religion. At that time Lao-Tse became popularly venerated as a deity.
Taoists follow the art of "wu wei," which is to let nature take its course. For example, one should allow a river to flow towards the sea unimpeded; do not erect a dam which would interfere with its natural flow.
A Taoists is kind to other individuals, largely because such an action tends to be reciprocated.
Taoists believe that "people are compassionate by nature...left to their own devices [they] will show this compassion without expecting a reward."
Tao-te-Ching ("The Way of Power," or "The Book of the Way") is believed to have been written by Lao-Tse. It describes the nature of life, the way to peace and how a ruler should lead his life.
Chuang-tzu (named after its author) contains additional teachings. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteBegin-Shintoism+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shintoism)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Shinto is an ancient Japanese religion. Starting about 500 BCE (or earlier) it was originally "an amorphous mix of nature worship, fertility cults, divination techniques, hero worship, and shamanism." 4 Its name was derived from the Chinese words "shin tao" ("The Way of the Gods") in the 8th Century CE.
Shinto does not have as fully developed a theology as do most other religions. It does not have its own moral code. Shintoists generally follow the code of Confucianism.
There are "Four Affirmations"in Shinto:
1. Tradition and the family: The family is seen as the main mechanism by which traditions are preserved. Their main celebrations relate to birth and marriage. 2. Love of nature: Nature is sacred; to be in contact with nature is to be close to the Gods. Natural objects are worshipped as sacred spirits. 3. Physical cleanliness: Followers of Shinto take baths, wash their hands, and rinse out their mouth often. 4. "Matsuri": The worship and honor given to the Kami and ancestral spirits
The Kojiki (Record of Ancient Matters) The Rokkokushi (Six National Histories) The Shoku Nihongi and its Nihon Shoki (Continuing Chronicles of Japan) The Jinno Shotoki (a study of Shinto and Japanese politics and history) written in the 14th century <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Supernorn+Jun 20 2005, 10:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Supernorn @ Jun 20 2005, 10:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> SATANISM! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Satanism is more about worshiping yourself, not the devil. Satanists don't beleive in the bible.
Secular Humanism. They basicaly share my principles and outlook and I wouldnt need to change my lifestyle to adhere to thier ideas. I would say some form of bhudism, but for the most part, that would require too drastic a change in my lifestyle, and some of my views conflict with thier philosophies. I would say Satanism, but I think if you need symbolism, ritual and ceremony to reinforce your beleifs, then you are lacking the faith in yourself or your beleifs in the first place. A religion that uses this type of abstraction to perpetuate its ideas is in my opinion, self serving, and was never about serving its community or the individual to begin with.
NeonSpyder"Das est NTLDR?"Join Date: 2003-07-03Member: 17913Members
Hmmm, if i can choose a non-standard religion i think i'll go with wiccan, from what i've read that sort of ties in with most of my lifestyle, moreso then buddhism at least. buddhism is third then, right behind wiccan.
first is still naked dancing with Gem. though i think that's wiccan too.
<!--QuoteBegin-Breakthrough+Jun 20 2005, 02:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Breakthrough @ Jun 20 2005, 02:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Taoist or however you spell it... Peaceful, and they sit there, very passive-like... Like me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Fixed. :-)
I lied. I'm not really an agnostic right now. Basically, my substitute for a formal religion is a sort of galactic "manifest destiny." I want to better the human race, or at least help us spread out enough so that a mere planetary mass extinction can't choke out the light.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 20 2005, 02:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 20 2005, 02:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is that better Suredeath? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Nope, I don't see how Taoism and Shinto has anything to do with Buddhism and booze.
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I try to stay away from bible-thumpers.
also, ReK, that only leaves budism <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
also, ReK, that only leaves budism <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not true, it also leaves Drudic, Celtic, Hinduism, Taoism, and Jainism.
Being a Buddhist doesn't really appeal to me. I don't particularly feel that life is suffering (the noble truths, right?) , and there's no way I'm giving up booze and harsh language. (I think that's part of the eightfold way.) If I'm wrong about this, though, please correct me - it's been a long time since I looked at Buddhism.
I guess it all depends. Would we have to sincerely live by a religion? If so, I'd probably go for the one which gives me least bother.
first choice is the naked dancing with Gem though. yep. *nods*
Depends. What can you give me in exchange for my immortal soul?
You're all welcome to join me. Everyone goes to heaven.
There's a $200 membership fee, then you need to be baptized, that's another 60$, then you can buy your holy robes ($120), and get the staff of healing ($300). Oh and if you wanna go to heaven you have to buy it as a package deal, everything plus another $1000.
Worship the sun but direct your prayers to Joe Peshi?
Wiccan or Celtic Paganism.
Being a Buddhist doesn't really appeal to me. I don't particularly feel that life is suffering (the noble truths, right?) , and there's no way I'm giving up booze and harsh language. (I think that's part of the eightfold way.) If I'm wrong about this, though, please correct me - it's been a long time since I looked at Buddhism.
I guess it all depends. Would we have to sincerely live by a religion? If so, I'd probably go for the one which gives me least bother. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The most basic teaching of Buddhism is to walk on the middle path. Not too harsh and not too lax.
No booze and some other sinful stuffs are for the monks and those incredibly strict Buddhists.
That would be Shinto and Taoist Monks.. which are not neccessarily Buddism.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mullet+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mullet)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
I'd be athiest. Religious people are too violent
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Athiests are just as violent, when you have extremes on both sides.
Shinto, Tao, and Jain monks are the most peaceful.
I want to change my answer to this. In the meantime, I'll still be here, eating ice-cream while wearing nothing but underpants.
That would be Shinto and Taoist Monks.. which are not neccessarily Buddism. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wha? I don't get it.
<-- Lived in a country of 95% Buddhists.
That would be Shinto and Taoist Monks.. which are not neccessarily Buddism. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wha? I don't get it.
<-- Lived in a country of 98% Buddhists. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Taoism+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Taoism)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <i>Quoted for ease of reading.</i>
Taoism: Taoism started as a combination of psychology and philosophy but evolved into a religious faith in 440 CE when it was adopted as a state religion. At that time Lao-Tse became popularly venerated as a deity.
Taoists follow the art of "wu wei," which is to let nature take its course. For example, one should allow a river to flow towards the sea unimpeded; do not erect a dam which would interfere with its natural flow.
A Taoists is kind to other individuals, largely because such an action tends to be reciprocated.
Taoists believe that "people are compassionate by nature...left to their own devices [they] will show this compassion without expecting a reward."
Tao-te-Ching ("The Way of Power," or "The Book of the Way") is believed to have been written by Lao-Tse. It describes the nature of life, the way to peace and how a ruler should lead his life.
Chuang-tzu (named after its author) contains additional teachings.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Shintoism+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shintoism)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
Shinto is an ancient Japanese religion. Starting about 500 BCE (or earlier) it was originally "an amorphous mix of nature worship, fertility cults, divination techniques, hero worship, and shamanism." 4 Its name was derived from the Chinese words "shin tao" ("The Way of the Gods") in the 8th Century CE.
Shinto does not have as fully developed a theology as do most other religions. It does not have its own moral code. Shintoists generally follow the code of Confucianism.
There are "Four Affirmations"in Shinto:
1. Tradition and the family: The family is seen as the main mechanism by which traditions are preserved. Their main celebrations relate to birth and marriage.
2. Love of nature: Nature is sacred; to be in contact with nature is to be close to the Gods. Natural objects are worshipped as sacred spirits.
3. Physical cleanliness: Followers of Shinto take baths, wash their hands, and rinse out their mouth often.
4. "Matsuri": The worship and honor given to the Kami and ancestral spirits
The Kojiki (Record of Ancient Matters)
The Rokkokushi (Six National Histories)
The Shoku Nihongi and its Nihon Shoki (Continuing Chronicles of Japan)
The Jinno Shotoki (a study of Shinto and Japanese politics and history) written in the 14th century
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Is that better Suredeath?
Satanism is more about worshiping yourself, not the devil. Satanists don't beleive in the bible.
first is still naked dancing with Gem. though i think that's wiccan too.
Celtic Paganism. :-)
Fixed. :-)
Celtic Paganism. :-) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Nope, I don't see how Taoism and Shinto has anything to do with Buddhism and booze.