<!--QuoteBegin-TheJim+Jun 8 2005, 06:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheJim @ Jun 8 2005, 06:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I know exactly what scripting is. You say its makes "life easier" well making "life easier" by making a script to do 3 jumps at the press of 1 key is borderline on cheating tbh as it is not possible for a human to make 3 jumps by pressing a key once without using something that they cannot legitimately do on their own...
Can you see what we are getting at now?
If not here it is in plain old fanshioned english.
By scripting for e.g. bunnyhopping:
Scripting to be able to bunnyhop as we all know is easiest by writing a script to do 3 jumps when you press a set key. By having a key set to do 3 jumps you are doing something which is impossible for a human to do legitimately. No human can legitimately do 3 jumps at the push of 1 key in this game without a script.
Now that can be classed as cheating in all honesty. Now if you say it can't then your just proving that you are in-capable of playing a game without scripts and that if you were forced to play without your beloved cheap scripts which do certain amount of things at the push of 1 key which no human can do without these scripts, you would play crap....
Sorry for going off topic but the PROZOR scripters don't get that what they do is technically cheating...
Tell me i am wrong and that a human can do what some scripts that u scripters use can do 100% legitimately without the scripts!
At times i do feel like going on a rampage in the scriting section about this. BUT! I aint that stupid to do it as it would most likely get me banned off the forums!
*Waits for more scripters to flame* <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I can bhop with my mouse2 button without a script, I simply choose not to do it because as I previously said, a 3jump script is just more convenient. Yes, a person cannot hit one button 3 consecutive times within the period of time that a script can do it. However, lots of people CAN get the exact same effects of the 3jump script without using the script. You can use a mousewheel or you can do it with one key, it just takes a little practice.
As for blockscripts, I believe it was there to prevent the exploitative scripts, the ones that have since been removed.
Back on topic....
What things do you find appealing? Good/fair admins, as few plugins as possible and a decent connection to the server.
What things do you hate? Retarded admins, all plugins that are heavily game altering.
Do you like FF? Yes, prefer it on because it makes things more interesting.
Do you like anti-hack programs like CD (do you think they help)? Don't really think they help prevent a whole lot.
Do you like Blockscripts ON or OFF? Off
Do you like places with rules that enforce no swearing (keep the swearing to a minimum)? Don't really care, willing to play in either environment.
Do you like servers that enforce NO racism rules/censor things? etc. etc. Yes, but only because other players around might be offended.
How to bhop on bs_1 servers: bind mwheeldown +attack, its simple and easy to use.
How to use rapid fire pistol on bs_1: Either click mouse 1 really fast, or bind mwheelup +attack and bind mwheeldown +attack, by scrolling up and down you will fire very fast.
There you have it, the two most common scripts can be done easily on bs_1.
As for TheJim, scripts are not cheating unless there is a rule against using them (cheating = breaking rules). Get a dictionary, noob.
<!--QuoteBegin-Real PUA+Jun 9 2005, 06:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Real PUA @ Jun 9 2005, 06:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How to bhop on bs_1 servers: bind mwheeldown +attack, its simple and easy to use.
How to use rapid fire pistol on bs_1: Either click mouse 1 really fast, or bind mwheelup +attack and bind mwheeldown +attack, by scrolling up and down you will fire very fast.
There you have it, the two most common scripts can be done easily on bs_1.
As for TheJim, scripts are not cheating unless there is a rule against using them (cheating = breaking rules). Get a dictionary, noob.
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cheating' target='_blank'>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cheating</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hahaha that made me chuckle 151 now <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
We are talking about game cheating here mate not real world cheating... In-game cheating can be classed as doing something no human can do legitimately by writing a script to do a certain amount of things you are not legitimate... this is not necessarily breaking rules.... its more bending them a little... which means it can be classed within the rules...
I bet if CAL decided to ban scripts you would agree with me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It just shows how individual you all are not <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Try not to compare the game world to real world.....
I just thought of another example if you wana compare to real world... OLYMPICS... lets say and athlete can only run so fast and it isn't fast enough because his body can't do the reaction of air into blood thru the lungs fast enough and he doesn't want to get what they call a "STITCH" mid run so he takes an unknown drug which isn't detectable by drug tests (cheat detection) to improve his performance by making the transfer of oxygen to blood quicker so he can run at his fastest with out no worries of the "STITCH".... because the drug (in ns its a script) is undetectable by the test (cheat detection) he is bending the rules but is within the rules because they cant detect this drug.. but never the less we know hes cheating because of the drug he took to improve his performance.. BUT because it is undetectable it is classed as not cheating... this can be converted to what you scripters do... you write scripts to improve the performance/speed at which you can do things.... so you are cheating within the rules because the cheat detection can't detect you... now if cheat detection did detect scripts as the performance improving drug that it is then you would all be saying different...
<!--QuoteBegin-TheJim+Jun 9 2005, 04:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheJim @ Jun 9 2005, 04:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Real PUA+Jun 9 2005, 06:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Real PUA @ Jun 9 2005, 06:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How to bhop on bs_1 servers: bind mwheeldown +attack, its simple and easy to use.
How to use rapid fire pistol on bs_1: Either click mouse 1 really fast, or bind mwheelup +attack and bind mwheeldown +attack, by scrolling up and down you will fire very fast.
There you have it, the two most common scripts can be done easily on bs_1.
As for TheJim, scripts are not cheating unless there is a rule against using them (cheating = breaking rules). Get a dictionary, noob.
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cheating' target='_blank'>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cheating</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hahaha that made me chuckle 151 now :D
We are talking about game cheating here mate not real world cheating... In-game cheating can be classed as doing something no human can do legitimately by writing a script to do a certain amount of things you are not legitimate... this is not necessarily breaking rules.... its more bending them a little... which means it can be classed within the rules...
I bet if CAL decided to ban scripts you would agree with me :p
It just shows how individual you all are not ???
Try not to compare the game world to real world.....
I just thought of another example if you wana compare to real world... OLYMPICS... lets say and athlete can only run so fast and it isn't fast enough because his body can't do the reaction of air into blood thru the lungs fast enough and he doesn't want to get what they call a "STITCH" mid run so he takes an unknown drug which isn't detectable by drug tests (cheat detection) to improve his performance by making the transfer of oxygen to blood quicker so he can run at his fastest with out no worries of the "STITCH".... because the drug (in ns its a script) is undetectable by the test (cheat detection) he is bending the rules but is within the rules because they cant detect this drug.. but never the less we know hes cheating because of the drug he took to improve his performance.. BUT because it is undetectable it is classed as not cheating... this can be converted to what you scripters do... you write scripts to improve the performance/speed at which you can do things.... so you are cheating within the rules because the cheat detection can't detect you... now if cheat detection did detect scripts as the performance improving drug that it is then you would all be saying different... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Scripts are like a better pair of runners or more comfortable clothes, not proformance enhancing drugs. Every olympic athlete uses the best equipment they can. Most clanners use scripts, but I play naked :D
Scripts don't bring your gameplay to a higher level, they simply prevent you from having to restructure your config. anything and everything that scripters use to give themselfs an advantage is perfectly possible to do with no scripts and only config changes. Scripts neither give players skills that they do not have nor do they allow them to do things normal players are not capable of, they simply allow people to use whatever key setup they want rather then the one set that works best without scripts.
I don't know how else to discribe this, THERE IS NOTHING EXPLOITIVE, OVERLY ADVENTAGIOUS, OR REMOTELY CHEAT LIKE ABOUT SCRIPTS!
I pound the majority of scripters to pulp when I play against them, and any of the scripters that I don't beat smash me just as hard when I play on BS1 servers with them, because all the skills are still there, they just aren't as tied together and rounded the way they would be if those players had learned a mousewheel bhop and whatnot rather then scripting them. scripts don't aim for you, they don't teach you how to bunnyhop, and they don't show you the best way to dodge attacker or avoid gunfire. All BS1 does is chase away good players.
<b>What things do you find appealing?</b> the main one is the community, i hate playing on servers filled with "hardcore" l337 talk KIDS, you know that ones that end every sentence with "kthxbye". so the community + ping are the most appealing to me
<b>What things do you hate?</b> as i said above, l337 speak kiddies. also, servers running extra levels in co
<b>Do you like FF?</b> dont mind it
<b>Do you like anti-hack programs like CD (do you think they help)?</b> no, there just hassel
<b>Do you like Blockscripts ON or OFF?</b> i really dont mind if its on or off, the only script i have is the 3 jump script, but i dont need it, i can bhop without it just using the space bar, so BS doesnt effect me. I dont mind if its on, because i know the pro ScR!Pt0rZ have fat finger syndrome, the poor fellahs mash 3 keys with just a finger tip, so they need scrips to do the things us normal people can easily do ourselfs.
<b>Do you like places with rules that enforce no swearing (keep the swearing to a minimum)?</b> i dont mind if people swear.
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 04:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 04:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know how else to discribe this, THERE IS NOTHING EXPLOITIVE, OVERLY ADVENTAGIOUS, OR REMOTELY CHEAT LIKE ABOUT SCRIPTS! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i dunno, the silent run script for marines is pretty nasty because mastering it without scripts takes quite a lot of practice.
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 09:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 09:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-TheJim+Jun 9 2005, 04:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheJim @ Jun 9 2005, 04:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Real PUA+Jun 9 2005, 06:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Real PUA @ Jun 9 2005, 06:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How to bhop on bs_1 servers: bind mwheeldown +attack, its simple and easy to use.
How to use rapid fire pistol on bs_1: Either click mouse 1 really fast, or bind mwheelup +attack and bind mwheeldown +attack, by scrolling up and down you will fire very fast.
There you have it, the two most common scripts can be done easily on bs_1.
As for TheJim, scripts are not cheating unless there is a rule against using them (cheating = breaking rules). Get a dictionary, noob.
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cheating' target='_blank'>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cheating</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hahaha that made me chuckle 151 now <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
We are talking about game cheating here mate not real world cheating... In-game cheating can be classed as doing something no human can do legitimately by writing a script to do a certain amount of things you are not legitimate... this is not necessarily breaking rules.... its more bending them a little... which means it can be classed within the rules...
I bet if CAL decided to ban scripts you would agree with me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It just shows how individual you all are not <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Try not to compare the game world to real world.....
I just thought of another example if you wana compare to real world... OLYMPICS... lets say and athlete can only run so fast and it isn't fast enough because his body can't do the reaction of air into blood thru the lungs fast enough and he doesn't want to get what they call a "STITCH" mid run so he takes an unknown drug which isn't detectable by drug tests (cheat detection) to improve his performance by making the transfer of oxygen to blood quicker so he can run at his fastest with out no worries of the "STITCH".... because the drug (in ns its a script) is undetectable by the test (cheat detection) he is bending the rules but is within the rules because they cant detect this drug.. but never the less we know hes cheating because of the drug he took to improve his performance.. BUT because it is undetectable it is classed as not cheating... this can be converted to what you scripters do... you write scripts to improve the performance/speed at which you can do things.... so you are cheating within the rules because the cheat detection can't detect you... now if cheat detection did detect scripts as the performance improving drug that it is then you would all be saying different... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Scripts are like a better pair of runners or more comfortable clothes, not proformance enhancing drugs. Every olympic athlete uses the best equipment they can. Most clanners use scripts, but I play naked
Scripts don't bring your gameplay to a higher level, they simply prevent you from having to restructure your config. anything and everything that scripters use to give themselfs an advantage is perfectly possible to do with no scripts and only config changes. Scripts neither give players skills that they do not have nor do they allow them to do things normal players are not capable of, they simply allow people to use whatever key setup they want rather then the one set that works best without scripts.
I don't know how else to discribe this, THERE IS NOTHING EXPLOITIVE, OVERLY ADVENTAGIOUS, OR REMOTELY CHEAT LIKE ABOUT SCRIPTS!
I pound the majority of scripters to pulp when I play against them, and any of the scripters that I don't beat smash me just as hard when I play on BS1 servers with them, because all the skills are still there, they just aren't as tied together and rounded the way they would be if those players had learned a mousewheel bhop and whatnot rather then scripting them. scripts don't aim for you, they don't teach you how to bunnyhop, and they don't show you the best way to dodge attacker or avoid gunfire. All BS1 does is chase away good players.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I would like to see how many of you scripters can bunnyhop with the default ns key lay out where space bar is jump...
You must not use a script...
And tell me when you do play without your scripts by what i have seen you play quite bad...
So tell me again your performance isn't increased by these scripts...
Btw if you think i put your or you just for 1 person then your wrong because i mean scripters in general....
I know 1 clanner i am not sure wether he scripts or not but he can play very well without them....
The l33t guy Reeke knows who i am talking about....
<!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jun 9 2005, 04:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jun 9 2005, 04:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 04:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 04:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know how else to discribe this, THERE IS NOTHING EXPLOITIVE, OVERLY ADVENTAGIOUS, OR REMOTELY CHEAT LIKE ABOUT SCRIPTS! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> i dunno, the silent run script for marines is pretty nasty because mastering it without scripts takes quite a lot of practice. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I have yet to see it working properly... although if it does work well I'd have to agree with you, this raises another issue though, why are the developers blocking scripts involving +jump and say with blockscripts when the only exploititive scripts all involve +move and +attack and pretty much nothing else?
if your talking about me, im not a clanner <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 04:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 04:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jun 9 2005, 04:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jun 9 2005, 04:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 04:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 04:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know how else to discribe this, THERE IS NOTHING EXPLOITIVE, OVERLY ADVENTAGIOUS, OR REMOTELY CHEAT LIKE ABOUT SCRIPTS! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> i dunno, the silent run script for marines is pretty nasty because mastering it without scripts takes quite a lot of practice. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have yet to see it working properly... although if it does work well I'd have to agree with you, this raises another issue though, why are the developers blocking scripts involving +jump and say with blockscripts when the only exploititive scripts all involve +move and +attack and pretty much nothing else? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> do you know what silent run as marines is
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 09:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 09:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jun 9 2005, 04:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jun 9 2005, 04:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 04:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 04:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Most clanners use scripts <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> no <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> fine, most AMERICAN clanners use scripts (frigging schemantics nazi <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I know its most american clanners who use them.... the rest of the world enjoy playing fully legitimately without the help of a performance enhancing script that allows you to do 3 different things with the push of 1 key....
The rest of the world clanners can play properly in that term <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Btw how sad you have flamed and opinion... lol just state your opinion tbh because if you flame i have to write these essays showing you what you can't see because you can't see passed your own 2 eyes......
Jim, I don't script at all... although serveral of the members of my clan do script. What I knowtice is generally slightly less effective bhops (which getting used to a mousewheel config would fix compleatly) and funny little things like med and ammo requests being unbound (which a non scripter would not have bound into a script anyways). The skill level is just as high.
People get used to a config and they play with that config regardless of weather space is bound to +jump or a three jump script. The only difference is jump timing gets harder.
I play with the mousewheel bound to +jump, always, so I can bhop perfectly weather or not I'm on a BS server, but I still play BS servers way less often because I can't stand that noobs gather there all like "OLO, NO SCRIPTS HACKER HERE" and bring down the total skill level of the game tenfold, plus my clan buddies don't play BS servers because it screws up there config.
Why should a clanner have to learn how to bhop without scripts using space if I didn't have to? Skill isn't using the default config of to the highest it can be used, skill is using your prefered config to the best it can be used. Just because I prefer a mousewheel jump I arbitrarly get to be better then 90% of all other players? doesn't sound very fair to me...
<!--QuoteBegin-TheJim+Jun 9 2005, 04:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheJim @ Jun 9 2005, 04:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 09:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 09:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jun 9 2005, 04:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jun 9 2005, 04:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 04:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 04:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Most clanners use scripts <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> no <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> fine, most AMERICAN clanners use scripts (frigging schemantics nazi <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I know its most american clanners who use them.... the rest of the world enjoy playing fully legitimately without the help of a performance enhancing script that allows you to do 3 different things with the push of 1 key....
The rest of the world clanners can play properly in that term <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> stop posting
<!--QuoteBegin-TheJim+Jun 9 2005, 04:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheJim @ Jun 9 2005, 04:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Btw how sad you have flamed and opinion... lol just state your opinion tbh because if you flame i have to write these essays showing you what you can't see because you can't see passed your own 2 eyes...... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The concept of "opinion" is just a retarded lie the american govenment teaches in it's schools. Anyone can have an opinion, but an opinion is never equal to an educated opinion, experiance, or expertice. I had a thread in the discussions forum once about this exact topic before I stopped posting there because people don't want to learn, they just want to yell really loudly that they are right for no reason.
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 09:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 09:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Jim, I don't script at all... although serveral of the members of my clan do script. What I knowtice is generally slightly less effective bhops (which getting used to a mousewheel config would fix compleatly) and funny little things like med and ammo requests being unbound (which a non scripter would not have bound into a script anyways). The skill level is just as high.
People get used to a config and they play with that config regardless of weather space is bound to +jump or a three jump script. The only difference is jump timing gets harder.
I play with the mousewheel bound to +jump, always, so I can bhop perfectly weather or not I'm on a BS server, but I still play BS servers way less often because I can't stand that noobs gather there all like "OLO, NO SCRIPTS HACKER HERE" and bring down the total skill level of the game tenfold, plus my clan buddies don't play BS servers because it screws up there config.
Why should a clanner have to learn how to bhop without scripts using space if I didn't have to? Skill isn't using the default config of to the highest it can be used, skill is using your prefered config to the best it can be used. Just because I prefer a mousewheel jump I arbitrarly get to be better then 90% of all other players? doesn't sound very fair to me... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Muse wheel jump is fine as you only have 1 thing bound to it you don't have 3 jumps or jump, ask for order, change to weapon 1..... i gave default config as an example but obviously you couldn't see that *sighs*
in all honesty in a script you can have alot of commands bined to 1 key which is just wrong tbh....
e.g. u can make 1 to do the following (i cant remember exact commands but i will say what it does)
lets say its set space bar:
jump, wait, jump, wait, jump, change to weapon 2, ask comm for ammo, ask comm for med pack, request order, say: look my script is PROZOR <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, votemap 15, spray my PROZOR spray
I doubt any human being can do that without a script... which shows that it is not legitimate gameplay by using a script...
Im pretty sure you can write a script to do both marine and alien actions with the push of 1 key... only the marine actions work on marine and onlt the alien actions work for alien, i am not 100% sure on that but it works in other games on the HL 1 engine....
<!--QuoteBegin-obuh+Jun 9 2005, 10:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (obuh @ Jun 9 2005, 10:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You can't change crosshair color with console commands or scripts in NS, voting to eject the commander is also impossible with commands and scripts. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> My bad there forgot myself <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I only see scripts fair for buying guns and ammo with the same key but in ns you don't buy guns <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-TheJim+Jun 9 2005, 05:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheJim @ Jun 9 2005, 05:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 09:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 09:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Jim, I don't script at all... although serveral of the members of my clan do script. What I knowtice is generally slightly less effective bhops (which getting used to a mousewheel config would fix compleatly) and funny little things like med and ammo requests being unbound (which a non scripter would not have bound into a script anyways). The skill level is just as high.
People get used to a config and they play with that config regardless of weather space is bound to +jump or a three jump script. The only difference is jump timing gets harder.
I play with the mousewheel bound to +jump, always, so I can bhop perfectly weather or not I'm on a BS server, but I still play BS servers way less often because I can't stand that noobs gather there all like "OLO, NO SCRIPTS HACKER HERE" and bring down the total skill level of the game tenfold, plus my clan buddies don't play BS servers because it screws up there config.
Why should a clanner have to learn how to bhop without scripts using space if I didn't have to? Skill isn't using the default config of to the highest it can be used, skill is using your prefered config to the best it can be used. Just because I prefer a mousewheel jump I arbitrarly get to be better then 90% of all other players? doesn't sound very fair to me... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Muse wheel jump is fine as you only have 1 thing bound to it you don't have 3 jumps or jump, ask for order, change to weapon 1..... i gave default config as an example but obviously you couldn't see that *sighs*
in all honesty in a script you can have alot of commands bined to 1 key which is just wrong tbh....
e.g. u can make 1 to do the following (i cant remember exact commands but i will say what it does)
lets say its set space bar:
jump, wait, jump, wait, jump, change to weapon 2, ask comm for ammo, ask comm for med pack, request order, say: look my script is PROZOR <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, vote eject comm, votemap 15, change cross hair colour to red, spray my PROZOR spray
I doubt any human being can do that without a script... which shows that it is not legitimate gameplay by using a script...
Im pretty sure you can write a script to do both marine and alien actions with the push of 1 key... only the marine actions work on marine and onlt the alien actions work for alien, i am not 100% sure on that but it works in other games on the HL 1 engine.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I can do it, just bind asdfg to all those commands respectively and hammer five keys at once while at the same time mouse wheeling... That begs the question though, why would anyone need to have all those commands execute symoltaniously?
I could even create a config that rebound those keys at one key press and then rebound them again at another.
Really NONE of the things you mentioned there are impossible to do on BS1 servers. most of them are easy. Oh, and it doesn't take a script to make both marine and alien actions use the same keyset, just alternitive config files for marine and alien. Most players use them anyways, and they aren't scripting at all.
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 10:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 10:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-TheJim+Jun 9 2005, 05:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheJim @ Jun 9 2005, 05:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 09:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 09:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Jim, I don't script at all... although serveral of the members of my clan do script. What I knowtice is generally slightly less effective bhops (which getting used to a mousewheel config would fix compleatly) and funny little things like med and ammo requests being unbound (which a non scripter would not have bound into a script anyways). The skill level is just as high.
People get used to a config and they play with that config regardless of weather space is bound to +jump or a three jump script. The only difference is jump timing gets harder.
I play with the mousewheel bound to +jump, always, so I can bhop perfectly weather or not I'm on a BS server, but I still play BS servers way less often because I can't stand that noobs gather there all like "OLO, NO SCRIPTS HACKER HERE" and bring down the total skill level of the game tenfold, plus my clan buddies don't play BS servers because it screws up there config.
Why should a clanner have to learn how to bhop without scripts using space if I didn't have to? Skill isn't using the default config of to the highest it can be used, skill is using your prefered config to the best it can be used. Just because I prefer a mousewheel jump I arbitrarly get to be better then 90% of all other players? doesn't sound very fair to me... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Muse wheel jump is fine as you only have 1 thing bound to it you don't have 3 jumps or jump, ask for order, change to weapon 1..... i gave default config as an example but obviously you couldn't see that *sighs*
in all honesty in a script you can have alot of commands bined to 1 key which is just wrong tbh....
e.g. u can make 1 to do the following (i cant remember exact commands but i will say what it does)
lets say its set space bar:
jump, wait, jump, wait, jump, change to weapon 2, ask comm for ammo, ask comm for med pack, request order, say: look my script is PROZOR <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, vote eject comm, votemap 15, change cross hair colour to red, spray my PROZOR spray
I doubt any human being can do that without a script... which shows that it is not legitimate gameplay by using a script...
Im pretty sure you can write a script to do both marine and alien actions with the push of 1 key... only the marine actions work on marine and onlt the alien actions work for alien, i am not 100% sure on that but it works in other games on the HL 1 engine.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I can do it, just bind asdfg to all those commands respectively and hammer five keys at once while at the same time mouse wheeling... That begs the question though, why would anyone need to have all those commands execute symoltaniously?
I could even create a config that rebound those keys at one key press and then rebound them again at another.
Really NONE of the things you mentioned there are impossible to do on BS1 servers. most of them are easy. Oh, and it doesn't take a script to make both marine and alien actions use the same keyset, just alternitive config files for marine and alien. Most players use them anyways, and they aren't scripting at all.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> 152 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You need a script to do it with 1 key mate thats the whole point or did u miss that....
I meant to say more than 1 marine and alien action with the same key and 1 script sorry i missed a word or 2
I didn't say you couldn't do it but you can't do it with 1 key which is where the point is...
Your come back there is pointless as 5 keys has nothing to do with 1 key....
All that is impossible to do with 1 key without a script.
so the argument is that scripts are cheap because they make the game take less keys to use? why not bind 5 keys to +moveup and have them all need to be pressed at the same time in order to move forward?
DEV TEAM, YOU GET THAT? THE MORE USELESS KEYS YOU NEED TO PRESS TO PLAY A GAME THE BETTER THE GAME IS! GET ON IT RIGHT AWAY!!!!11one
[edit] OMG, I have a automatic drive transmission car, I can drive without changing gears, but I can't drive a manual car without changing gears!!! I SCRIPT AT LIFE!
<!--QuoteBegin-Boris+Jun 6 2005, 05:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Boris @ Jun 6 2005, 05:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I want to know what people look for and like about the servers they play on.
What things do you find appealing? What things do you hate? Do you like FF? Do you like anti-hack programs like CD (do you think they help)? Do you like Blockscripts ON or OFF? Do you like places with rules that enforce no swearing (keep the swearing to a minimum)? Do you like servers that enforce NO racism rules/censor things? etc. etc.
Help me answer some of these questions if you can guys...
I'm sure this topic has come up before but searching didn't help me (or it's been so long ago, it didn't show up).
Just to let you know who I am/why I'm doing this: -I started and run the "Mr|Server(FF) - mrcommunity.ca" -I'm always looking to improve on how we run the community and feedback is important.
If you've visited the server before, your feedback is greatly appreciated (both positive or negative). If you've never played there before, it would be nice to know what you guys like about the servers you DO play on.
Thanks for helping, Boris <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> My ideal server has admins who not only love gaming, but specifically love NS and what it is.
My ideal server would also have blockscripts 0 because anyone who knows what a script is knows all the malicious script commands are now disabled anyway (_special) For some reason these silly people see script and think it plays for them.
you two are like grannys, quit your moaning <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
no point in arguing, these things are never gonna be settled. for example the pistol script.
click once. get two shots. i can see why some see this as exploitive/cheating. but then its open to everyone, anyone can do it, and some people have mouse's with rapid fire, all they have to do is hold a button and it acts as if the user is clicking it increadibly fast, so in that sence a pistol scrip can even things.
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 10:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 10:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> so the argument is that scripts are cheap because they make the game take less keys to use? why not bind 5 keys to +moveup and have them all need to be pressed at the same time in order to move forward?
DEV TEAM, YOU GET THAT? THE MORE USELESS KEYS YOU NEED TO PRESS TO PLAY A GAME THE BETTER THE GAME IS! GET ON IT RIGHT AWAY!!!!11one <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Obviously you lost the point which shows your attention span *sigh*
Half the things you see alot of scripters do with scripts they can't do without scripts.. which shows they need help to do these things... so performance boosting...
Now there it is pointed out to you in plain english you can't go wrong there <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Okay Reeke i will stop now <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Reeke+Jun 9 2005, 05:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Reeke @ Jun 9 2005, 05:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you two are like grannys, quit your moaning <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
no point in arguing, these things are never gonna be settled. for example the pistol script.
click once. get two shots. i can see why some see this as exploitive/cheating. but then its open to everyone, anyone can do it, and some people have mouse's with rapid fire, all they have to do is hold a button and it acts as if the user is clicking it increadibly fast, so in that sence a pistol scrip can even things.
cant we all just get along? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> too bad that the fire rate is capped and that you can exceed the speed of a pistolscript by clicking really fast. I suppose we should start banning people with good finger dexterity too eh
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Jun 9 2005, 10:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Jun 9 2005, 10:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Reeke+Jun 9 2005, 05:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Reeke @ Jun 9 2005, 05:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you two are like grannys, quit your moaning <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
no point in arguing, these things are never gonna be settled. for example the pistol script.
click once. get two shots. i can see why some see this as exploitive/cheating. but then its open to everyone, anyone can do it, and some people have mouse's with rapid fire, all they have to do is hold a button and it acts as if the user is clicking it increadibly fast, so in that sence a pistol scrip can even things.
cant we all just get along? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> too bad that the fire rate is capped and that you can exceed the speed of a pistolscript by clicking really fast. I suppose we should start banning people with good finger dexterity too eh <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Lol thats a good 1 naaa that just shows they got quick fingers <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-TheJim+Jun 9 2005, 05:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheJim @ Jun 9 2005, 05:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 10:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 10:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> so the argument is that scripts are cheap because they make the game take less keys to use? why not bind 5 keys to +moveup and have them all need to be pressed at the same time in order to move forward?
DEV TEAM, YOU GET THAT? THE MORE USELESS KEYS YOU NEED TO PRESS TO PLAY A GAME THE BETTER THE GAME IS! GET ON IT RIGHT AWAY!!!!11one <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Obviously you lost the point which shows your attention span *sigh*
Half the things you see alot of scripters do with scripts they can't do without scripts.. which shows they need help to do these things... so performance boosting...
Now there it is pointed out to you in plain english you can't go wrong there <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> except they can do them without scripts, it just takes a different config...
You can bind multiple commands to one keystroke and have it still work on BS1 servers you know...
Arguing that I can't do something using only key X is unethical when I can do the same exact thing using key's T,Y and U is just meaningless scemantics. The whole point of customizable configs is so players can play using the keys they want to play with rather then the defaults. You probably can't jump with mousewheel duck with mouse5 and lastinv with R unless you rebind your config, but I can, does that make me a cheater? something can either be done or it can't be done, it is irrelevent how many keys it takes to do so or which keys it takes to do so. If scripts could aim for you or respond to environmental stimuli for you then you would have a very strong case, but they can't.
Reeke, I've had just about enough of your granny hate, kindly take it elsewhere.
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 9 2005, 10:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 9 2005, 10:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> except they can do them without scripts, it just takes a different config...
You can bind multiple commands to one keystroke and have it still work on BS1 servers you know...
Arguing that I can't do something using only key X is unethical when I can do the same exact thing using key's T,Y and U is just meaningless scemantics. The whole point of customizable configs is so players can play using the keys they want to play with rather then the defaults. You probably can't jump with mousewheel duck with mouse5 and lastinv with R unless you rebind your config, but I can, does that make me a cheater? something can either be done or it can't be done, it is irrelevent how many keys it takes to do so or which keys it takes to do so. If scripts could aim for you or respond to environmental stimuli for you then you would have a very strong case, but they can't.
Reeke, I've had just about enough of your granny hate, kindly take it elsewhere. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not all mouse have mouse 5 but i can do exactly what you said there <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I said i would stop about scripting thing Reeke and i have <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Can you see what we are getting at now?
If not here it is in plain old fanshioned english.
By scripting for e.g. bunnyhopping:
Scripting to be able to bunnyhop as we all know is easiest by writing a script to do 3 jumps when you press a set key. By having a key set to do 3 jumps you are doing something which is impossible for a human to do legitimately. No human can legitimately do 3 jumps at the push of 1 key in this game without a script.
Now that can be classed as cheating in all honesty. Now if you say it can't then your just proving that you are in-capable of playing a game without scripts and that if you were forced to play without your beloved cheap scripts which do certain amount of things at the push of 1 key which no human can do without these scripts, you would play crap....
Sorry for going off topic but the PROZOR scripters don't get that what they do is technically cheating...
Tell me i am wrong and that a human can do what some scripts that u scripters use can do 100% legitimately without the scripts!
At times i do feel like going on a rampage in the scriting section about this. BUT! I aint that stupid to do it as it would most likely get me banned off the forums!
*Waits for more scripters to flame* <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can bhop with my mouse2 button without a script, I simply choose not to do it because as I previously said, a 3jump script is just more convenient. Yes, a person cannot hit one button 3 consecutive times within the period of time that a script can do it. However, lots of people CAN get the exact same effects of the 3jump script without using the script. You can use a mousewheel or you can do it with one key, it just takes a little practice.
As for blockscripts, I believe it was there to prevent the exploitative scripts, the ones that have since been removed.
Back on topic....
What things do you find appealing?
Good/fair admins, as few plugins as possible and a decent connection to the server.
What things do you hate?
Retarded admins, all plugins that are heavily game altering.
Do you like FF?
Yes, prefer it on because it makes things more interesting.
Do you like anti-hack programs like CD (do you think they help)?
Don't really think they help prevent a whole lot.
Do you like Blockscripts ON or OFF?
Off
Do you like places with rules that enforce no swearing (keep the swearing to a minimum)?
Don't really care, willing to play in either environment.
Do you like servers that enforce NO racism rules/censor things?
etc. etc.
Yes, but only because other players around might be offended.
How to use rapid fire pistol on bs_1: Either click mouse 1 really fast, or bind mwheelup +attack and bind mwheeldown +attack, by scrolling up and down you will fire very fast.
There you have it, the two most common scripts can be done easily on bs_1.
As for TheJim, scripts are not cheating unless there is a rule against using them (cheating = breaking rules). Get a dictionary, noob.
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cheating' target='_blank'>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cheating</a>
How to use rapid fire pistol on bs_1: Either click mouse 1 really fast, or bind mwheelup +attack and bind mwheeldown +attack, by scrolling up and down you will fire very fast.
There you have it, the two most common scripts can be done easily on bs_1.
As for TheJim, scripts are not cheating unless there is a rule against using them (cheating = breaking rules). Get a dictionary, noob.
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cheating' target='_blank'>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cheating</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hahaha that made me chuckle 151 now <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
We are talking about game cheating here mate not real world cheating...
In-game cheating can be classed as doing something no human can do legitimately by writing a script to do a certain amount of things you are not legitimate... this is not necessarily breaking rules.... its more bending them a little... which means it can be classed within the rules...
I bet if CAL decided to ban scripts you would agree with me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It just shows how individual you all are not <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Try not to compare the game world to real world.....
I just thought of another example if you wana compare to real world... OLYMPICS... lets say and athlete can only run so fast and it isn't fast enough because his body can't do the reaction of air into blood thru the lungs fast enough and he doesn't want to get what they call a "STITCH" mid run so he takes an unknown drug which isn't detectable by drug tests (cheat detection) to improve his performance by making the transfer of oxygen to blood quicker so he can run at his fastest with out no worries of the "STITCH".... because the drug (in ns its a script) is undetectable by the test (cheat detection) he is bending the rules but is within the rules because they cant detect this drug.. but never the less we know hes cheating because of the drug he took to improve his performance.. BUT because it is undetectable it is classed as not cheating... this can be converted to what you scripters do... you write scripts to improve the performance/speed at which you can do things.... so you are cheating within the rules because the cheat detection can't detect you... now if cheat detection did detect scripts as the performance improving drug that it is then you would all be saying different...
How to use rapid fire pistol on bs_1: Either click mouse 1 really fast, or bind mwheelup +attack and bind mwheeldown +attack, by scrolling up and down you will fire very fast.
There you have it, the two most common scripts can be done easily on bs_1.
As for TheJim, scripts are not cheating unless there is a rule against using them (cheating = breaking rules). Get a dictionary, noob.
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cheating' target='_blank'>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cheating</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hahaha that made me chuckle 151 now :D
We are talking about game cheating here mate not real world cheating...
In-game cheating can be classed as doing something no human can do legitimately by writing a script to do a certain amount of things you are not legitimate... this is not necessarily breaking rules.... its more bending them a little... which means it can be classed within the rules...
I bet if CAL decided to ban scripts you would agree with me :p
It just shows how individual you all are not ???
Try not to compare the game world to real world.....
I just thought of another example if you wana compare to real world... OLYMPICS... lets say and athlete can only run so fast and it isn't fast enough because his body can't do the reaction of air into blood thru the lungs fast enough and he doesn't want to get what they call a "STITCH" mid run so he takes an unknown drug which isn't detectable by drug tests (cheat detection) to improve his performance by making the transfer of oxygen to blood quicker so he can run at his fastest with out no worries of the "STITCH".... because the drug (in ns its a script) is undetectable by the test (cheat detection) he is bending the rules but is within the rules because they cant detect this drug.. but never the less we know hes cheating because of the drug he took to improve his performance.. BUT because it is undetectable it is classed as not cheating... this can be converted to what you scripters do... you write scripts to improve the performance/speed at which you can do things.... so you are cheating within the rules because the cheat detection can't detect you... now if cheat detection did detect scripts as the performance improving drug that it is then you would all be saying different... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Scripts are like a better pair of runners or more comfortable clothes, not proformance enhancing drugs. Every olympic athlete uses the best equipment they can. Most clanners use scripts, but I play naked :D
Scripts don't bring your gameplay to a higher level, they simply prevent you from having to restructure your config. anything and everything that scripters use to give themselfs an advantage is perfectly possible to do with no scripts and only config changes. Scripts neither give players skills that they do not have nor do they allow them to do things normal players are not capable of, they simply allow people to use whatever key setup they want rather then the one set that works best without scripts.
I don't know how else to discribe this, THERE IS NOTHING EXPLOITIVE, OVERLY ADVENTAGIOUS, OR REMOTELY CHEAT LIKE ABOUT SCRIPTS!
I pound the majority of scripters to pulp when I play against them, and any of the scripters that I don't beat smash me just as hard when I play on BS1 servers with them, because all the skills are still there, they just aren't as tied together and rounded the way they would be if those players had learned a mousewheel bhop and whatnot rather then scripting them. scripts don't aim for you, they don't teach you how to bunnyhop, and they don't show you the best way to dodge attacker or avoid gunfire. All BS1 does is chase away good players.
the main one is the community, i hate playing on servers filled with "hardcore" l337 talk KIDS, you know that ones that end every sentence with "kthxbye". so the community + ping are the most appealing to me
<b>What things do you hate?</b>
as i said above, l337 speak kiddies. also, servers running extra levels in co
<b>Do you like FF?</b>
dont mind it
<b>Do you like anti-hack programs like CD (do you think they help)?</b>
no, there just hassel
<b>Do you like Blockscripts ON or OFF?</b>
i really dont mind if its on or off, the only script i have is the 3 jump script, but i dont need it, i can bhop without it just using the space bar, so BS doesnt effect me. I dont mind if its on, because i know the pro ScR!Pt0rZ have fat finger syndrome, the poor fellahs mash 3 keys with just a finger tip, so they need scrips to do the things us normal people can easily do ourselfs.
<b>Do you like places with rules that enforce no swearing (keep the swearing to a minimum)?</b>
i dont mind if people swear.
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fine, most AMERICAN clanners use scripts (frigging schemantics nazi <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
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i dunno, the silent run script for marines is pretty nasty because mastering it without scripts takes quite a lot of practice.
How to use rapid fire pistol on bs_1: Either click mouse 1 really fast, or bind mwheelup +attack and bind mwheeldown +attack, by scrolling up and down you will fire very fast.
There you have it, the two most common scripts can be done easily on bs_1.
As for TheJim, scripts are not cheating unless there is a rule against using them (cheating = breaking rules). Get a dictionary, noob.
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Hahaha that made me chuckle 151 now <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
We are talking about game cheating here mate not real world cheating...
In-game cheating can be classed as doing something no human can do legitimately by writing a script to do a certain amount of things you are not legitimate... this is not necessarily breaking rules.... its more bending them a little... which means it can be classed within the rules...
I bet if CAL decided to ban scripts you would agree with me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It just shows how individual you all are not <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Try not to compare the game world to real world.....
I just thought of another example if you wana compare to real world... OLYMPICS... lets say and athlete can only run so fast and it isn't fast enough because his body can't do the reaction of air into blood thru the lungs fast enough and he doesn't want to get what they call a "STITCH" mid run so he takes an unknown drug which isn't detectable by drug tests (cheat detection) to improve his performance by making the transfer of oxygen to blood quicker so he can run at his fastest with out no worries of the "STITCH".... because the drug (in ns its a script) is undetectable by the test (cheat detection) he is bending the rules but is within the rules because they cant detect this drug.. but never the less we know hes cheating because of the drug he took to improve his performance.. BUT because it is undetectable it is classed as not cheating... this can be converted to what you scripters do... you write scripts to improve the performance/speed at which you can do things.... so you are cheating within the rules because the cheat detection can't detect you... now if cheat detection did detect scripts as the performance improving drug that it is then you would all be saying different... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Scripts are like a better pair of runners or more comfortable clothes, not proformance enhancing drugs. Every olympic athlete uses the best equipment they can. Most clanners use scripts, but I play naked
Scripts don't bring your gameplay to a higher level, they simply prevent you from having to restructure your config. anything and everything that scripters use to give themselfs an advantage is perfectly possible to do with no scripts and only config changes. Scripts neither give players skills that they do not have nor do they allow them to do things normal players are not capable of, they simply allow people to use whatever key setup they want rather then the one set that works best without scripts.
I don't know how else to discribe this, THERE IS NOTHING EXPLOITIVE, OVERLY ADVENTAGIOUS, OR REMOTELY CHEAT LIKE ABOUT SCRIPTS!
I pound the majority of scripters to pulp when I play against them, and any of the scripters that I don't beat smash me just as hard when I play on BS1 servers with them, because all the skills are still there, they just aren't as tied together and rounded the way they would be if those players had learned a mousewheel bhop and whatnot rather then scripting them. scripts don't aim for you, they don't teach you how to bunnyhop, and they don't show you the best way to dodge attacker or avoid gunfire. All BS1 does is chase away good players.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I would like to see how many of you scripters can bunnyhop with the default ns key lay out where space bar is jump...
You must not use a script...
And tell me when you do play without your scripts by what i have seen you play quite bad...
So tell me again your performance isn't increased by these scripts...
Btw if you think i put your or you just for 1 person then your wrong because i mean scripters in general....
I know 1 clanner i am not sure wether he scripts or not but he can play very well without them....
The l33t guy Reeke knows who i am talking about....
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i dunno, the silent run script for marines is pretty nasty because mastering it without scripts takes quite a lot of practice. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have yet to see it working properly... although if it does work well I'd have to agree with you, this raises another issue though, why are the developers blocking scripts involving +jump and say with blockscripts when the only exploititive scripts all involve +move and +attack and pretty much nothing else?
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I have yet to see it working properly... although if it does work well I'd have to agree with you, this raises another issue though, why are the developers blocking scripts involving +jump and say with blockscripts when the only exploititive scripts all involve +move and +attack and pretty much nothing else? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
do you know what silent run as marines is
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fine, most AMERICAN clanners use scripts (frigging schemantics nazi <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know its most american clanners who use them.... the rest of the world enjoy playing fully legitimately without the help of a performance enhancing script that allows you to do 3 different things with the push of 1 key....
The rest of the world clanners can play properly in that term <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Btw how sad you have flamed and opinion... lol just state your opinion tbh because if you flame i have to write these essays showing you what you can't see because you can't see passed your own 2 eyes......
People get used to a config and they play with that config regardless of weather space is bound to +jump or a three jump script. The only difference is jump timing gets harder.
I play with the mousewheel bound to +jump, always, so I can bhop perfectly weather or not I'm on a BS server, but I still play BS servers way less often because I can't stand that noobs gather there all like "OLO, NO SCRIPTS HACKER HERE" and bring down the total skill level of the game tenfold, plus my clan buddies don't play BS servers because it screws up there config.
Why should a clanner have to learn how to bhop without scripts using space if I didn't have to? Skill isn't using the default config of to the highest it can be used, skill is using your prefered config to the best it can be used. Just because I prefer a mousewheel jump I arbitrarly get to be better then 90% of all other players? doesn't sound very fair to me...
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fine, most AMERICAN clanners use scripts (frigging schemantics nazi <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know its most american clanners who use them.... the rest of the world enjoy playing fully legitimately without the help of a performance enhancing script that allows you to do 3 different things with the push of 1 key....
The rest of the world clanners can play properly in that term <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
stop posting
The concept of "opinion" is just a retarded lie the american govenment teaches in it's schools. Anyone can have an opinion, but an opinion is never equal to an educated opinion, experiance, or expertice. I had a thread in the discussions forum once about this exact topic before I stopped posting there because people don't want to learn, they just want to yell really loudly that they are right for no reason.
People get used to a config and they play with that config regardless of weather space is bound to +jump or a three jump script. The only difference is jump timing gets harder.
I play with the mousewheel bound to +jump, always, so I can bhop perfectly weather or not I'm on a BS server, but I still play BS servers way less often because I can't stand that noobs gather there all like "OLO, NO SCRIPTS HACKER HERE" and bring down the total skill level of the game tenfold, plus my clan buddies don't play BS servers because it screws up there config.
Why should a clanner have to learn how to bhop without scripts using space if I didn't have to? Skill isn't using the default config of to the highest it can be used, skill is using your prefered config to the best it can be used. Just because I prefer a mousewheel jump I arbitrarly get to be better then 90% of all other players? doesn't sound very fair to me... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Muse wheel jump is fine as you only have 1 thing bound to it you don't have 3 jumps or jump, ask for order, change to weapon 1..... i gave default config as an example but obviously you couldn't see that *sighs*
in all honesty in a script you can have alot of commands bined to 1 key which is just wrong tbh....
e.g. u can make 1 to do the following (i cant remember exact commands but i will say what it does)
lets say its set space bar:
jump, wait, jump, wait, jump, change to weapon 2, ask comm for ammo, ask comm for med pack, request order, say: look my script is PROZOR <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, votemap 15, spray my PROZOR spray
I doubt any human being can do that without a script... which shows that it is not legitimate gameplay by using a script...
Im pretty sure you can write a script to do both marine and alien actions with the push of 1 key... only the marine actions work on marine and onlt the alien actions work for alien, i am not 100% sure on that but it works in other games on the HL 1 engine....
My bad there forgot myself <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I only see scripts fair for buying guns and ammo with the same key but in ns you don't buy guns <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
People get used to a config and they play with that config regardless of weather space is bound to +jump or a three jump script. The only difference is jump timing gets harder.
I play with the mousewheel bound to +jump, always, so I can bhop perfectly weather or not I'm on a BS server, but I still play BS servers way less often because I can't stand that noobs gather there all like "OLO, NO SCRIPTS HACKER HERE" and bring down the total skill level of the game tenfold, plus my clan buddies don't play BS servers because it screws up there config.
Why should a clanner have to learn how to bhop without scripts using space if I didn't have to? Skill isn't using the default config of to the highest it can be used, skill is using your prefered config to the best it can be used. Just because I prefer a mousewheel jump I arbitrarly get to be better then 90% of all other players? doesn't sound very fair to me... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Muse wheel jump is fine as you only have 1 thing bound to it you don't have 3 jumps or jump, ask for order, change to weapon 1..... i gave default config as an example but obviously you couldn't see that *sighs*
in all honesty in a script you can have alot of commands bined to 1 key which is just wrong tbh....
e.g. u can make 1 to do the following (i cant remember exact commands but i will say what it does)
lets say its set space bar:
jump, wait, jump, wait, jump, change to weapon 2, ask comm for ammo, ask comm for med pack, request order, say: look my script is PROZOR <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, vote eject comm, votemap 15, change cross hair colour to red, spray my PROZOR spray
I doubt any human being can do that without a script... which shows that it is not legitimate gameplay by using a script...
Im pretty sure you can write a script to do both marine and alien actions with the push of 1 key... only the marine actions work on marine and onlt the alien actions work for alien, i am not 100% sure on that but it works in other games on the HL 1 engine.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can do it, just bind asdfg to all those commands respectively and hammer five keys at once while at the same time mouse wheeling... That begs the question though, why would anyone need to have all those commands execute symoltaniously?
I could even create a config that rebound those keys at one key press and then rebound them again at another.
Really NONE of the things you mentioned there are impossible to do on BS1 servers. most of them are easy. Oh, and it doesn't take a script to make both marine and alien actions use the same keyset, just alternitive config files for marine and alien. Most players use them anyways, and they aren't scripting at all.
People get used to a config and they play with that config regardless of weather space is bound to +jump or a three jump script. The only difference is jump timing gets harder.
I play with the mousewheel bound to +jump, always, so I can bhop perfectly weather or not I'm on a BS server, but I still play BS servers way less often because I can't stand that noobs gather there all like "OLO, NO SCRIPTS HACKER HERE" and bring down the total skill level of the game tenfold, plus my clan buddies don't play BS servers because it screws up there config.
Why should a clanner have to learn how to bhop without scripts using space if I didn't have to? Skill isn't using the default config of to the highest it can be used, skill is using your prefered config to the best it can be used. Just because I prefer a mousewheel jump I arbitrarly get to be better then 90% of all other players? doesn't sound very fair to me... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Muse wheel jump is fine as you only have 1 thing bound to it you don't have 3 jumps or jump, ask for order, change to weapon 1..... i gave default config as an example but obviously you couldn't see that *sighs*
in all honesty in a script you can have alot of commands bined to 1 key which is just wrong tbh....
e.g. u can make 1 to do the following (i cant remember exact commands but i will say what it does)
lets say its set space bar:
jump, wait, jump, wait, jump, change to weapon 2, ask comm for ammo, ask comm for med pack, request order, say: look my script is PROZOR <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, vote eject comm, votemap 15, change cross hair colour to red, spray my PROZOR spray
I doubt any human being can do that without a script... which shows that it is not legitimate gameplay by using a script...
Im pretty sure you can write a script to do both marine and alien actions with the push of 1 key... only the marine actions work on marine and onlt the alien actions work for alien, i am not 100% sure on that but it works in other games on the HL 1 engine.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can do it, just bind asdfg to all those commands respectively and hammer five keys at once while at the same time mouse wheeling... That begs the question though, why would anyone need to have all those commands execute symoltaniously?
I could even create a config that rebound those keys at one key press and then rebound them again at another.
Really NONE of the things you mentioned there are impossible to do on BS1 servers. most of them are easy. Oh, and it doesn't take a script to make both marine and alien actions use the same keyset, just alternitive config files for marine and alien. Most players use them anyways, and they aren't scripting at all.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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You need a script to do it with 1 key mate thats the whole point or did u miss that....
I meant to say more than 1 marine and alien action with the same key and 1 script sorry i missed a word or 2
I didn't say you couldn't do it but you can't do it with 1 key which is where the point is...
Your come back there is pointless as 5 keys has nothing to do with 1 key....
All that is impossible to do with 1 key without a script.
DEV TEAM, YOU GET THAT? THE MORE USELESS KEYS YOU NEED TO PRESS TO PLAY A GAME THE BETTER THE GAME IS! GET ON IT RIGHT AWAY!!!!11one
[edit] OMG, I have a automatic drive transmission car, I can drive without changing gears, but I can't drive a manual car without changing gears!!! I SCRIPT AT LIFE!
What things do you find appealing?
What things do you hate?
Do you like FF?
Do you like anti-hack programs like CD (do you think they help)?
Do you like Blockscripts ON or OFF?
Do you like places with rules that enforce no swearing (keep the swearing to a minimum)?
Do you like servers that enforce NO racism rules/censor things?
etc. etc.
Help me answer some of these questions if you can guys...
I'm sure this topic has come up before but searching didn't help me (or it's been so long ago, it didn't show up).
Just to let you know who I am/why I'm doing this:
-I started and run the "Mr|Server(FF) - mrcommunity.ca"
-I'm always looking to improve on how we run the community and feedback is important.
If you've visited the server before, your feedback is greatly appreciated (both positive or negative). If you've never played there before, it would be nice to know what you guys like about the servers you DO play on.
Thanks for helping,
Boris <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
My ideal server has admins who not only love gaming, but specifically love NS and what it is.
My ideal server would also have blockscripts 0 because anyone who knows what a script is knows all the malicious script commands are now disabled anyway (_special) For some reason these silly people see script and think it plays for them.
My ideal server would have NO rules other than
No thirdparty programs
No whining
no point in arguing, these things are never gonna be settled. for example the pistol script.
click once. get two shots. i can see why some see this as exploitive/cheating. but then its open to everyone, anyone can do it, and some people have mouse's with rapid fire, all they have to do is hold a button and it acts as if the user is clicking it increadibly fast, so in that sence a pistol scrip can even things.
cant we all just get along?
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Obviously you lost the point which shows your attention span *sigh*
Half the things you see alot of scripters do with scripts they can't do without scripts.. which shows they need help to do these things... so performance boosting...
Now there it is pointed out to you in plain english you can't go wrong there <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Okay Reeke i will stop now <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->
no point in arguing, these things are never gonna be settled. for example the pistol script.
click once. get two shots. i can see why some see this as exploitive/cheating. but then its open to everyone, anyone can do it, and some people have mouse's with rapid fire, all they have to do is hold a button and it acts as if the user is clicking it increadibly fast, so in that sence a pistol scrip can even things.
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too bad that the fire rate is capped and that you can exceed the speed of a pistolscript by clicking really fast. I suppose we should start banning people with good finger dexterity too eh
no point in arguing, these things are never gonna be settled. for example the pistol script.
click once. get two shots. i can see why some see this as exploitive/cheating. but then its open to everyone, anyone can do it, and some people have mouse's with rapid fire, all they have to do is hold a button and it acts as if the user is clicking it increadibly fast, so in that sence a pistol scrip can even things.
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too bad that the fire rate is capped and that you can exceed the speed of a pistolscript by clicking really fast. I suppose we should start banning people with good finger dexterity too eh <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Lol thats a good 1 naaa that just shows they got quick fingers <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
would be funny to see though lol
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Obviously you lost the point which shows your attention span *sigh*
Half the things you see alot of scripters do with scripts they can't do without scripts.. which shows they need help to do these things... so performance boosting...
Now there it is pointed out to you in plain english you can't go wrong there <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
except they can do them without scripts, it just takes a different config...
You can bind multiple commands to one keystroke and have it still work on BS1 servers you know...
Arguing that I can't do something using only key X is unethical when I can do the same exact thing using key's T,Y and U is just meaningless scemantics. The whole point of customizable configs is so players can play using the keys they want to play with rather then the defaults. You probably can't jump with mousewheel duck with mouse5 and lastinv with R unless you rebind your config, but I can, does that make me a cheater? something can either be done or it can't be done, it is irrelevent how many keys it takes to do so or which keys it takes to do so. If scripts could aim for you or respond to environmental stimuli for you then you would have a very strong case, but they can't.
Reeke, I've had just about enough of your granny hate, kindly take it elsewhere.
You can bind multiple commands to one keystroke and have it still work on BS1 servers you know...
Arguing that I can't do something using only key X is unethical when I can do the same exact thing using key's T,Y and U is just meaningless scemantics. The whole point of customizable configs is so players can play using the keys they want to play with rather then the defaults. You probably can't jump with mousewheel duck with mouse5 and lastinv with R unless you rebind your config, but I can, does that make me a cheater? something can either be done or it can't be done, it is irrelevent how many keys it takes to do so or which keys it takes to do so. If scripts could aim for you or respond to environmental stimuli for you then you would have a very strong case, but they can't.
Reeke, I've had just about enough of your granny hate, kindly take it elsewhere. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not all mouse have mouse 5 but i can do exactly what you said there <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
btw my mouse goes upto mouse 10 <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
lol on the Reeke granny hating bit....
I said i would stop about scripting thing Reeke and i have <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->