<!--QuoteBegin-V MAN+May 28 2005, 11:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V MAN @ May 28 2005, 11:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I never knew the Nazis used B-17s, maybe they rebuilt a crashed one perhaps? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> maybe they stole it
It's in black and white, duh. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+May 28 2005, 05:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ May 28 2005, 05:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That is not a B-17, it is a Junker or a Messer-schmitt.
Spellings are off, but I'm sure Nemmy can assist with that german side of things. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Junker-Jus and Messerschmitts were much smaller than B-17s I believe, well certainly the M's. They were fighters rather than bombers (though I think the Junkers had bombs attached, did dive bombing and all that malarkey)
Yup, upon actually looking at pictures, the JU-57 was the closest I could find to the B-17, it also has the possiblity of being a modified SUNDERLAND MKIII, or a german knock-off plane.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+May 28 2005, 09:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ May 28 2005, 09:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yup, upon actually looking at pictures, the JU-57 was the closest I could find to the B-17, it also has the possiblity of being a modified SUNDERLAND MKIII, or a german knock-off plane. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> From linked source above...
<b>Allied bombers in Luftwaffe service</b>
During the war, the Luftwaffe downed many allied bombers over german held territory. Others landed because of technical problems. Some of these bombers remained flyable. Initially these captured bombers, such as american B-17s and B-24s and russian Pe-2s and Tupolevs and other aircraft, were flown by the Luftwaffe for studying their capabilities for intelligence and technological analysis. These test-flown bombers were given Luftwaffe markings, like the one in the picture above.
<!--QuoteBegin-elitebear+May 28 2005, 12:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (elitebear @ May 28 2005, 12:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you guys are such nerds. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Says the person with the cute asian chick as his avatar.
<!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+May 28 2005, 01:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ May 28 2005, 01:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Says the person with the cute asian chick as his avatar. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That's the stupidest comment ever. Anyone can enjoy cute asian chicks, but it takes an aficionado/nerd to discuss a picture of a B-17 captured by the Germans in WW2.
ok, so.... why not check the link that guy put up? nobody seems to have commented on it. seems watertight enough to me...
p.s these are forums... devoted to a computer game, which was made ontop of another computer game ?(needs brains basically) what else did you expect? really?
Before the beginning of the war, aerial reconnaisance was usually carried out by relatively unconspicious civilian Lufthansa planes equipped with cameras. This practice was continued throughout the war as long as civilian airlines remained operational; later on, recon missions were most often carried out by Junkers Ju 90s flying at very high altitudes or by flying boats. <b>Due to the lack of German aircraft with sufficient range, some recon missions even used captured American B-17 and B-24 bombers.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+May 28 2005, 07:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ May 28 2005, 07:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+May 28 2005, 01:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ May 28 2005, 01:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Says the person with the cute asian chick as his avatar. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That's the stupidest comment ever. Anyone can enjoy cute asian chicks, but it takes an aficionado/nerd to discuss a picture of a B-17 captured by the Germans in WW2. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm not entirely sure what an aficionado is, but I resent being called a nerd and I dont think you need to be one to discuss a picture of a B-17 captured by the Germans in WW2.
<!--QuoteBegin-elitebear+May 28 2005, 12:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (elitebear @ May 28 2005, 12:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you guys are such nerds. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Do you know where you are? Because you may have registered by mistake.
<!--QuoteBegin-AlienCow+May 28 2005, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AlienCow @ May 28 2005, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+May 28 2005, 05:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ May 28 2005, 05:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That is not a B-17, it is a Junker or a Messer-schmitt.
Spellings are off, but I'm sure Nemmy can assist with that german side of things. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Junker-Jus and Messerschmitts were much smaller than B-17s I believe, well certainly the M's. They were fighters rather than bombers (though I think the Junkers had bombs attached, did dive bombing and all that malarkey) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not so, take a look at this beast, it's a Junkers Ju 390 <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It was designed to bomb the US east coast cities and came within 20 miles of long island during a test flight.
<!--QuoteBegin-V MAN+May 28 2005, 08:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V MAN @ May 28 2005, 08:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AlienCow+May 28 2005, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AlienCow @ May 28 2005, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+May 28 2005, 05:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ May 28 2005, 05:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That is not a B-17, it is a Junker or a Messer-schmitt.
Spellings are off, but I'm sure Nemmy can assist with that german side of things. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Junker-Jus and Messerschmitts were much smaller than B-17s I believe, well certainly the M's. They were fighters rather than bombers (though I think the Junkers had bombs attached, did dive bombing and all that malarkey) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not so, take a look at this beast, it's a Junkers Ju 390 <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It was designed to bomb the US east coast cities and came within 20 miles of long island during a test flight. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats frightening...
Pfft, is it me or are all of you lot paranoid? Elitebear didn't say being a nerd was either good or bad. He could have simply been referring to the depth and breadth of our general knowledge or our impressive ability to discuss all possible parts of a subject instead skipping all the good stuff and just giving an answer...
Be proud of your nerdiness, you need a bit of positive mental geekitude in your lives!
[Edit] Just thought I'd share the horrible image I just had as I pushed post. A Bill Gates excercise video... if I get to have nightmares then so do you.
Maybe chuck in some excercises by Bill Roper or Molyneux as well <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->[/Edit]
Powerful twin tail guns side mounted turrets foward turrets and front mounted cannon but, unless it's just camera angle, NO BALL TURRET
That is why I believe it's the B-17b Flying Fortress, captured and re-marked by the Germans
EDIT- my Grandfather flew in a mark c variant <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> He wound up breaking his wrist when he had to help his other side gunner un-jam his weapon, which he did by SLAMMING HIS WRIST HARD INTO THE RECOIL MECHANISM! Oh Em gee...
NeonSpyder"Das est NTLDR?"Join Date: 2003-07-03Member: 17913Members
<!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+May 28 2005, 10:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead @ May 28 2005, 10:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> EDIT- my Grandfather flew in a mark c variant <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> He wound up breaking his wrist when he had to help his other side gunner un-jam his weapon, which he did by SLAMMING HIS WRIST HARD INTO THE RECOIL MECHANISM! Oh Em gee... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yes but did he succeed in unjamming the gun?
<!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+May 28 2005, 08:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead @ May 28 2005, 08:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> EDIT- my Grandfather flew in a mark c variant <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> He wound up breaking his wrist when he had to help his other side gunner un-jam his weapon, which he did by SLAMMING HIS WRIST HARD INTO THE RECOIL MECHANISM! Oh Em gee... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> tell your grandfather i consider him a hero and he deserves a medal if he didnt get one
<!--QuoteBegin-Black Mage+May 28 2005, 02:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ May 28 2005, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you know, it could be a photoshop <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> what is this photoshop you speak of
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maybe they stole it
Google isn't much help either unfortunatly.
EDIT: Cool^
Spellings are off, but I'm sure Nemmy can assist with that german side of things.
The Dual propellers and the tailfin give it away.
Spellings are off, but I'm sure Nemmy can assist with that german side of things. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Junker-Jus and Messerschmitts were much smaller than B-17s I believe, well certainly the M's. They were fighters rather than bombers (though I think the Junkers had bombs attached, did dive bombing and all that malarkey)
Why?
Hi! Welcome to the NS forums.
From linked source above...
<b>Allied bombers in Luftwaffe service</b>
During the war, the Luftwaffe downed many allied bombers over german held territory. Others landed because of technical problems. Some of these bombers remained flyable. Initially these captured bombers, such as american B-17s and B-24s and russian Pe-2s and Tupolevs and other aircraft, were flown by the Luftwaffe for studying their capabilities for intelligence and technological analysis. These test-flown bombers were given Luftwaffe markings, like the one in the picture above.
Says the person with the cute asian chick as his avatar.
well sure.
That's the stupidest comment ever. Anyone can enjoy cute asian chicks, but it takes an aficionado/nerd to discuss a picture of a B-17 captured by the Germans in WW2.
p.s these are forums... devoted to a computer game, which was made ontop of another computer game ?(needs brains basically) what else did you expect? really?
From the Wikipedia <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KG_200' target='_blank'>entry</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Long-range reconnaissance</b>
Before the beginning of the war, aerial reconnaisance was usually carried out by relatively unconspicious civilian Lufthansa planes equipped with cameras. This practice was continued throughout the war as long as civilian airlines remained operational; later on, recon missions were most often carried out by Junkers Ju 90s flying at very high altitudes or by flying boats. <b>Due to the lack of German aircraft with sufficient range, some recon missions even used captured American B-17 and B-24 bombers.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's the stupidest comment ever. Anyone can enjoy cute asian chicks, but it takes an aficionado/nerd to discuss a picture of a B-17 captured by the Germans in WW2. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not entirely sure what an aficionado is, but I resent being called a nerd and I dont think you need to be one to discuss a picture of a B-17 captured by the Germans in WW2.
Do you know where you are? Because you may have registered by mistake.
Spellings are off, but I'm sure Nemmy can assist with that german side of things. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Junker-Jus and Messerschmitts were much smaller than B-17s I believe, well certainly the M's. They were fighters rather than bombers (though I think the Junkers had bombs attached, did dive bombing and all that malarkey) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not so, take a look at this beast, it's a Junkers Ju 390 <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It was designed to bomb the US east coast cities and came within 20 miles of long island during a test flight.
Spellings are off, but I'm sure Nemmy can assist with that german side of things. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Junker-Jus and Messerschmitts were much smaller than B-17s I believe, well certainly the M's. They were fighters rather than bombers (though I think the Junkers had bombs attached, did dive bombing and all that malarkey) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not so, take a look at this beast, it's a Junkers Ju 390 <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It was designed to bomb the US east coast cities and came within 20 miles of long island during a test flight. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats frightening...
Be proud of your nerdiness, you need a bit of positive mental geekitude in your lives!
[Edit] Just thought I'd share the horrible image I just had as I pushed post. A Bill Gates excercise video... if I get to have nightmares then so do you.
Maybe chuck in some excercises by Bill Roper or Molyneux as well <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->[/Edit]
Powerful twin tail guns
side mounted turrets
foward turrets and front mounted cannon
but, unless it's just camera angle, NO BALL TURRET
That is why I believe it's the B-17b Flying Fortress, captured and re-marked by the Germans
EDIT- my Grandfather flew in a mark c variant <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> He wound up breaking his wrist when he had to help his other side gunner un-jam his weapon, which he did by SLAMMING HIS WRIST HARD INTO THE RECOIL MECHANISM! Oh Em gee...
yes but did he succeed in unjamming the gun?
tell your grandfather i consider him a hero and he deserves a medal if he didnt get one
what is this photoshop you speak of
And wow at that big-**** Junkers, didn't realise they did bombers too...thats a pretty darn impressive plane for WW2...
When I said I thought they were smaller, I was thinking along the lines of Stuka dive bombers (Ju87), but still...wow.