Soccer Vs (american) Football

Caboose · February 2005

<div class="IPBDescription">why bother?</div> Soccer (Football) and (American) Football (From now on in this post, soccer is soccer and football is football) are two different games. Why is Football despised by Europians/Everyone who isn't in the US, or possibly Canada?

The games themselves have their own distinct play styles and are both intertaining to watch, I've seen many an NFL game, and several MLS games (Magor Leaige Soccer for those not in the know) and both are interesting.

Soccer is a cool game, I enjoy it, I like playing it, same with Football, and I don't see the reason why there is so much dispute between the two games, other than they share the same name depending on where you live.

I just want to know from both sides, other than petty nationalist reasoning, what's wrong with Soccer (if you are American) and what's wrong with Football (If you aren't)?

Spacer · February 2005

I think it has something to do with names... Soccer has always been called football by people who play it, but then America came along and announced that American Football should be called football (even though it's blatantly just rugby :|), and everywhere that wasn't America was like "WTH MATE."

Metalcat · February 2005

seriusly football?

u dont even kick to the ball u run with it.
also u keep stopping the game. U see like 20 secs then its stop, the judges gonna see what happened.
And soccer (football) is much more about tactical play and good play
american things is just like brute force with armor.

Aries8 · February 2005

I played varsity football for my high school team then I moved to Europe(Greece)...I found that alot of people just dislike it because all they know about it is stuff they see in teen movies. Either that or because its American, I know quiet a few people that hate it for that reason. But I have converted some people to liking it after I taught them the rules, which are really hard to explain to someone who doesn't know anything. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Even though I love football I have come to the conclusioin that we named it Football just to **** Europe off.

Sky · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Metalcat @ Feb 5 2005, 02:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> seriusly football?

u dont even kick to the ball u run with it.
also u keep stopping the game. U see like 20 secs then its stop, the judges gonna see what happened.
And soccer (football) is much more about tactical play and good play
american things is just like brute force with armor.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Actually I have to say football contains much more tactics than soccer. I mean, what do the teams do before anyone touches the ball? They choose a set pattern to run. That's tactics. Soccer, on the other hand, has a much greater emphasis on free strategy, where players have to adapt to the way the game is flowing, like hockey. So on the strategy front, it comes down to outthinking your opponent before the play starts vs. outthinking your opponent while the play is happening. Neither is inherently better than the other. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

Snidely · February 2005

The same reason people don't seem to like both football* and rugby, I guess. At least, I've only run into a few people who liked both. And cricketers hate both.

Edit: Is this thread a result of <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87805' target='_blank'>that</a> thread?

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*"Soccer".</span>

Caboose · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Feb 5 2005, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Edit: Is this thread a result of <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87805' target='_blank'>that</a> thread?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
yes

Jezpuh · February 2005

Though I have nothing against the actual game, it's the name that annoys me greatly. I mean, I don't care about the game and obviously it must be really good if that many people care about it. But why call it <i>foot</i>ball? They hardly ever use their feet. But with soccer (football, actually), on the other hand, people use their feet all the time.

lolfighter · February 2005

Well, several reasons. Some of them can offend very nationalist americans, so those might want to leave now.

Football is called football in the ENTIRE world, except in the U.S., where it's called soccer. Combine this with the word being VERY close to "sucker", and you've just offended a LOT of football fanboys. And football fanboys have aggressions up the wazoo, as the United Kingdom can tell you.

Then there's the fact that american football isn't aptly named. You hardly ever kick the ball. It IS a rugger variant, just with full body armor instead of shorts and shirts. Then again, wearing armor is probably just common sense. Playing rugger as relatively unprotected as rugger players play rugger is actually insane, but they do it nevertheless. It's also pretty fun as long as people take care not to hurt each other too much.

Then there's the whole world series or cup or whatever it's called thingy. Dear citizens of the U.S. of A., it isn't the world series when your nation is the only one that attends. Same for baseball. Baseball is at least far enough removed from cricket to prevent big flamewars there.

And of course, the everlasting truth: It's just damn fashionable to hate and bash the U.S., and any excuse will do. It's also a very convenient discussion grenade to steer the topic away from uncomfortable subjects: "Yeah, so I cheated on you. With your best friend. On your birthday. In your bed. And I taped it. And left the tape in the video recorder. But AMERICA SUCKS!" It works every time.

reasa · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Feb 5 2005, 08:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> And of course, the everlasting truth: It's just damn fashionable to hate and bash the U.S., and any excuse will do. It's also a very convenient discussion grenade to steer the topic away from uncomfortable subjects: "Yeah, so I cheated on you. With your best friend. On your birthday. In your bed. And I taped it. And left the tape in the video recorder. But AMERICA SUCKS!" It works every time.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
*sigh* Maybe we need to start <i>increasing</i> our troop concentrations in Europe... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Anyway the football doesn’t have a "world bowl" or whatever, the biggest game is called the super bowl, we left the world out of it because frankly it’s just not worthy.
Baseball has the only "world series" in major league sports that I know of, and I hate baseball so rail away on it if you want.

...also we were originally going to call it "sucker" but we thought that was just too obvious. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

noncomposmentis · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jezpuh @ Feb 5 2005, 06:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Though I have nothing against the actual game, it's the name that annoys me greatly. I mean, I don't care about the game and obviously it must be really good if that many people care about it. But why call it <i>foot</i>ball? They hardly ever use their feet. But with soccer (football, actually), on the other hand, people use their feet all the time.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I take it in cricket people use noisy insects, and in rugby... well you get the point.

Sky · February 2005

Yeah....you can take the "World Series", I don't care much for baseball. I mean, it's one thing to be arrogant, but whoever decided on that name had arrogance down to a science. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' />

Depot · February 2005

American football is a derivative of rugby football, and while the feet are used more often in rugby than on the gridiron, much of the game is still played by handling the ball. Both variations are still considered football.

Caboose · February 2005

noncomposmentis brings up a good point. Why is is such a big deal about the name when Cricket has nothing to do with crickets and Rugby has nothing to do with rugs?

Football was based off of soccer and rugby, it just took on the name of football. It became more popular than soccer, and since at the time communication with Europe was limited, you know, no TV or Interweb, it just took on the name.

It's sort of a Darwinian idea now that I think of it. The game adapted to its surroundings to survive and thrived in a land of people who left Europe because they disliked it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Depot · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Football, American, distinct type of football that developed in the United States in the 19th century from soccer (association football) and rugby football. Played by professionals and amateurs (generally male college or high school teams), football is one of the most popular American sports, attracting thousands of participants and millions of spectators annually. The forerunner of American football may have been a game played by the ancient Greeks, called harpaston. In this game there was no limit to the number of players. The object was to move a ball across a goal line by kicking, throwing, or running with it. Classical literature contains detailed accounts of the game, including its rougher elements, such as ferocious tackling. Most modern versions of football, however, originated in England, where a form of the game was known in the 12th century. In subsequent centuries football became so popular that various English monarchs, including Edward II and Henry VI, forbade the game because it took interest away from the military sport of archery. By the middle of the 19th century football had split into two distinct entities. Still popular today, these two sports included the football association game, or soccer (the word being a slang adaptation of the three letters, s-o-c, in Association), and rugby, in which players ran with the ball and tackled. Modern football evolved out of these two sports.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Wheeee · February 2005

One of the things that makes me like watching football more than soccer is that football is a high scoring game, and is a contact sport which automatically makes it more exciting to watch, imo. That's probably the reason that America doesn't have a huge fanbase for soccer. (That's referring to the US for all you South Americans clamoring to be called "americans" too).

Legat · February 2005

Why do americans always seem to take every bit of rejection of their cultural achievements as sign of anti-americanism? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

Its simple. I play XY and you play QZ. QZ sucks, beacause I don't play it. Its basic fanboy-dom. Do you think such behavior was invented by video gamers?

Next point is, that Football is nigh to insignifficant in most parts of the world. Basically exept the US.

I played it several times during my military service with some "Amis" and it was fun. I prefer roughby thoug. Tough guys don't need protection <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

Snidely · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I take it in cricket people use noisy insects, and in rugby... well you get the point.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>By the middle of the 19th century football had split into two distinct entities. Still popular today, these two sports included the football association game, or soccer (the word being a slang adaptation of the three letters, s-o-c, in Association), and rugby, in which players ran with the ball and tackled. Modern football evolved out of these two sports.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

The teacher who took us for rugby practice told us that rugby was "created" in the 19th C. by some kid at <a href='http://www.rugbyschool.net/' target='_blank'>Rugby School</a>; during a game of football, he got so ticked off that he picked up the ball and ran to the goal. This version of "football" developed from there, in Rugby School, which is in Rugby. Rugby, Rugby Rugby. Rugby Rugby Rugby Rugby.

Then again, the guy could have just outright lied to us. He was a jerk, and we hated each other so very, very much. Especially when I was forced to play in a rugby match, and I ran away from the ball instead of towards it. I've always liked the idea that rugby was created by someone cheating, though.

Tofumaster · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sky @ Feb 5 2005, 09:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Yeah....you can take the "World Series", I don't care much for baseball. I mean, it's one thing to be arrogant, but whoever decided on that name had arrogance down to a science. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Actually, it's called the "World Series" because it was originally supported, or funded by, the New York World, a newspaper.

Me? I love all sports equally. It's about being fit and having fun with the mates.

Jezpuh · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (noncomposmentis @ Feb 6 2005, 03:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jezpuh @ Feb 5 2005, 06:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Though I have nothing against the actual game, it's the name that annoys me greatly. I mean, I don't care about the game and obviously it must be really good if that many people care about it. But why call it <i>foot</i>ball? They hardly ever use their feet. But with soccer (football, actually), on the other hand, people use their feet all the time. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I take it in cricket people use noisy insects, and in rugby... well you get the point.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
That's a really bad reference.

esuna · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kwikloader @ Feb 6 2005, 02:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Football, American, distinct type of football that developed in the United States in the 19th century from soccer (association football) and rugby football. Played by professionals and amateurs (generally male college or high school teams), football is one of the most popular American sports, attracting thousands of participants and millions of spectators annually. The forerunner of American football may have been a game played by the ancient Greeks, called harpaston. In this game there was no limit to the number of players. The object was to move a ball across a goal line by kicking, throwing, or running with it. Classical literature contains detailed accounts of the game, including its rougher elements, such as ferocious tackling. Most modern versions of football, however, originated in England, where a form of the game was known in the 12th century. In subsequent centuries football became so popular that various English monarchs, including Edward II and Henry VI, forbade the game because it took interest away from the military sport of archery. By the middle of the 19th century football had split into two distinct entities. Still popular today, these two sports included the football association game, or soccer (the word being a slang adaptation of the three letters, s-o-c, in Association), and rugby, in which players ran with the ball and tackled. Modern football evolved out of these two sports.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Wow, so it predates, y'know, America.

Football, dispite being something i don't much care for, is a very english thing, and to not stick up for it is like insulting your country. Let's look closely at a few things you might gather, based on the Name. Football.

<img src='http://home.insightbb.com/~dr.hickman/my_foot.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Foot. An ingenius invention that allows for great things such as "standing," "walking" and some people's favourite, "kicking."

Ball.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Oxford English Dictionary)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>ball¹ (bawl) <i>n.</i> <b>1.</b> solid or hollow sphere.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
<img src='http://www.gototem.com/Webgifs/ClipArt/Sports/Football.GIF' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> <img src='http://www.thesportsauthority.com/graphics/product_images/p677199reg.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Answers on a postcard which one resembles a ball by it's true definition.

So based on literal definition. Is this football? (Note the non-ball shaped ball and the fact the foot is rarely used)
<img src='http://www.signonsandiego.com/gallery/albums/prepfootball2003/Copy_of_JBdivIIA215427x07.sized.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Or is this football? (Note the constant, exclusive use of the foot, besides goalkeeper, and the spherical ball used)
<img src='http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/a-zofplayers/r-s/rush.jpeg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

In short, it's more logical for a game where you use your <b>foot</b> to kick an <b>actual, by dictionary definition, ball</b> to be called football than it is for a game that was blatantly stolen from Rugby but with added stoppages and girly pads because they're afraid of breaking a nail.

Now away from the literal translation, here's a list of countries associated with Fifa and the World Cup of football.

Afghanistan (AFG) Albania (ALB)
Algeria (ALG) American Samoa (ASA)
Andorra (AND) Angola (ANG)
Anguilla (AIA) Antigua and Barbuda (ATG)
Argentina (ARG) Armenia (ARM)
Aruba (ARU) Australia (AUS)
Austria (AUT) Azerbaijan (AZE)
Bahamas (BAH) Bahrain (BHR)
Bangladesh (BAN) Barbados (BRB)
Belarus (BLR) Belgium (BEL)
Belize (BLZ) Benin (BEN)
Bermuda (BER) Bhutan (BHU)
Bolivia (BOL) Bosnia-Herzegovina (BIH)
Botswana (BOT) Brazil (BRA)
British Virgin Islands (VGB) Brunei Darussalam (BRU)
Bulgaria (BUL) Burkina Faso (BFA)
Burundi (BDI) Cambodia (CAM)
Cameroon (CMR) Canada (CAN)
Cape Verde Islands (CPV) Cayman Islands (CAY)
Central African Republic (CTA) Chad (CHA)
Chile (CHI) China PR (CHN)
Chinese Taipei (TPE) Colombia (COL)
Congo (CGO) Congo DR (COD)
Cook Islands (COK) Costa Rica (CRC)
Croatia (CRO) Cuba (CUB)
Cyprus (CYP) Czech Republic (CZE)
Côte d'Ivoire (CIV) Denmark (DEN)
Djibouti (DJI) Dominica (DMA)
Dominican Republic (DOM) Ecuador (ECU)
Egypt (EGY) El Salvador (SLV)
England (ENG) Equatorial Guinea (EQG)
Eritrea (ERI) Estonia (EST)
Ethiopia (ETH) Faroe Islands (FRO)
Fiji (FIJ) Finland (FIN)
France (FRA) Gabon (GAB)
Gambia (GAM) Georgia (GEO)
Germany (GER) Ghana (GHA)
Greece (GRE) Grenada (GRN)
Guam (GUM) Guatemala (GUA)
Guinea (GUI) Guinea-Bissau (GNB)
Guyana (GUY) Haiti (HAI)
Honduras (HON) Hong Kong (HKG)
Hungary (HUN) Iceland (ISL)
India (IND) Indonesia (IDN)
Iran (IRN) Iraq (IRQ)
Ireland Republic (IRL) Israel (ISR)
Italy (ITA) Jamaica (JAM)
Japan (JPN) Jordan (JOR)
Kazakhstan (KAZ) Kenya (KEN)
Korea DPR (PRK) Korea Republic (KOR)
Kuwait (KUW) Kyrgyzstan (KGZ)
Laos (LAO) Latvia (LVA)
Lebanon (LIB) Lesotho (LES)
Liberia (LBR) Libya (LBY)
Liechtenstein (LIE) Lithuania (LTU)
Luxembourg (LUX) Macao (MAC)
Macedonia FYR (MKD) Madagascar (MAD)
Malawi (MWI) Malaysia (MAS)
Maldives (MDV) Mali (MLI)
Malta (MLT) Mauritania (MTN)
Mauritius (MRI) Mexico (MEX)
Moldova (MDA) Mongolia (MGL)
Montserrat (MSR) Morocco (MAR)
Mozambique (MOZ) Myanmar (MYA)
Namibia (NAM) Nepal (NEP)
Netherlands (NED) Netherlands Antilles (ANT)
New Caledonia (NCL) New Zealand (NZL)
Nicaragua (NCA) Niger (NIG)
Nigeria (NGA) Northern Ireland (NIR)
Norway (NOR) Oman (OMA)
Pakistan (PAK) Palestine (PAL)
Panama (PAN) Papua New Guinea (PNG)
Paraguay (PAR) Peru (PER)
Philippines (PHI) Poland (POL)
Portugal (POR) Puerto Rico (PUR)
Qatar (QAT) Romania (ROU)
Russia (RUS) Rwanda (RWA)
Samoa (SAM) San Marino (SMR)
Saudi Arabia (KSA) Scotland (SCO)
Senegal (SEN) Serbia and Montenegro (SCG)
Seychelles (SEY) Sierra Leone (SLE)
Singapore (SIN) Slovakia (SVK)
Slovenia (SVN) Solomon Islands (SOL)
Somalia (SOM) South Africa (RSA)
Spain (ESP) Sri Lanka (SRI)
St. Kitts and Nevis (SKN) St. Lucia (LCA)
St. Vincent / Grenadines (VIN) Sudan (SUD)
Surinam (SUR) Swaziland (SWZ)
Sweden (SWE) Switzerland (SUI)
Syria (SYR) São Tomé e Príncipe (STP)
Tahiti (TAH) Tajikistan (TJK)
Tanzania (TAN) Thailand (THA)
Togo (TOG) Tonga (TGA)
Trinidad and Tobago (TRI) Tunisia (TUN)
Turkey (TUR) Turkmenistan (TKM)
Turks and Caicos Islands (TCA) US Virgin Islands (VIR)
USA (USA) Uganda (UGA)
Ukraine (UKR) United Arab Emirates (UAE)
Uruguay (URU) Uzbekistan (UZB)
Vanuatu (VAN) Venezuela (VEN)
Vietnam SR (VIE) Wales (WAL)
Yemen (YEM) Zambia (ZAM)
Zimbabwe (ZIM)

That's <b>205</b> countries. Guess how many "American Football" is known as plain football in... <b>1</b>.

Depot · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Feb 6 2005, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> That's <b>205</b> countries. Guess how many "American Football" is known as plain football in... <b>1</b>.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Not only was your effort to list all those countries in vain, it's totally false.
The NFL has a League in Europe that is supported by several countries (I won't bother researching how many as that's a moot point) and very successful.

Tofumaster · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kwikloader @ Feb 6 2005, 08:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Feb 6 2005, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> That's <b>205</b> countries. Guess how many "American Football" is known as plain football in... <b>1</b>. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Not only was your effort to list all those countries in vain, it's totally false.
The NFL has a League in Europe that is supported by several countries (I won't bother researching how many as that's a moot point) and very successful. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
A) Not really.
B) I think his point was in what countries does just saying "football" mean american football... and that is 1.

Personally, I think football (soccer) will almost always be the most international sport by far because all you need to play is a ball, or an inflated goats stomach if you're really out there. And it's got a gigantic international fanbase already, which is hard to diminish.

Legat · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>The NFL has a League in Europe that is supported by several countries (I won't bother researching how many as that's a moot point) and very successful.
</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Ahem yes. Well... better do some research and look at the numbers and then, well rethink that statement. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />

Jezpuh · February 2005

Real <i>foot</i>ball (I refuse to call it soccer from now on) is without a doubt the biggest international sport. How did American Football even got its name? I think it should be called American Handball. /me runs

Apos · February 2005

Football is dumbed down rugby, just like baseball is dumbed down cricket. Simple as that.

lolfighter · February 2005

Well yeah, AMERICAN handball, because there already is a sport that's called handball. It's big in Denmark. Of course, nobody south of the danish/german border knows what Denmark is. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

Snidely · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Apos @ Feb 6 2005, 09:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Football is dumbed down rugby, just like baseball is dumbed down cricket. Simple as that.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I'd always thought baseball was more of a rounders rip-off than a cricket one.

Jezpuh · February 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Feb 6 2005, 04:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Well yeah, AMERICAN handball, because there already is a sport that's called handball. It's big in Denmark. Of course, nobody south of the danish/german border knows what Denmark is. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Basicly, any sport with "American" in front of it is a total rip-off <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

j/k, /me runs

But seriously, the name would really fit the sport better, as you're using your hands all the time.

Sky · February 2005

Jesus, I really have to do this?

You say American football doesn't play how it sounds it should.....but hello:

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>crick·et
n.
Any of various insects of the family Gryllidae, having long antennae and legs adapted for leaping. The males of many species produce a shrill chirping sound by rubbing the front wings together.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Now, does this look like a cricket to you?

Spacer · February 2005

crick·et2 Audio pronunciation of "cricket" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (krkt)
n.

1. Sports. An outdoor game played with bats, a ball, and wickets by two teams of 11 players each.

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The thing is, cricket is called cricket by more than one country.

Soccer Vs (american) Football

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