<!--QuoteBegin-rennex+Nov 3 2004, 01:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rennex @ Nov 3 2004, 01:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I was waiting for configast to post.
EDIT: In case it wasn't clear, I'm just messing with him. lessthanthree nada <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> haha
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<!--QuoteBegin-SpaceJesus+Nov 3 2004, 02:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SpaceJesus @ Nov 3 2004, 02:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> As I mentioned earlier, I'd want to moderate that forum if you'd be wanting more mods.
Okay so people who offered to mod this forum so far:
Me Nadagast Dragon Mech
any others I missed?
that's 3 potential mods for that forum if you approve of them. any other questions/issues that need to be addressed? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Just to keep things on the sane side, I'd go for Scripting Forum mod(limited modding, aka). I'm not too great at scripts, but I understand them and don't have a hate for them at all. Heck, it'd help me find a few better chatbinds...
a_civilianLikes seeing numbersJoin Date: 2003-01-08Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
edited November 2004
<!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Nov 3 2004, 04:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Nov 3 2004, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->However, if done right it would give the clanners/pro scripters a great place to share their knowledge and help guide new players in a direction.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Perhaps create a new forum or forum group for the purpose of helping players improve, and then put not only this new scripting forum, but also the Frontiersmen Strategy and Kharaa Strategy forums, inside it. (Also possibly rename those forums, as they are only partially about strategy.)
Great idea, worth a try <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Just one question about the moderating; how are we going to deal with really "abusive" scripts? I use scripts and i'm not against scripting at all but i still think some shouldn't be posted to the public eyes.
For example, i never used a pistol script in NS 1.x (before the ROF cap) cause it was really giving a huge advantage, morphing the pistol into a super-gauss-sniper-rifle. It was really abusing the lack of a ROF cap.
I think it will be hard to keep track of what is "too much" and what is not. Some people may think a 1.x pistol script is fine, but some may think the other way, including moderators ...
If its going to be a subforum, make it a subforum of the NS customization forum. No one looks there anyways, and its really the most relevent place for it.
I don't really think there's all much point to this. The problem at the moment is not scripts but the people that disagree with them. You can move it to their own sub forum but there still will be people that whine.
Also, i don't think scripts are that big a deal to necessitate an entire sub forum for themselves. There's only so many times you can post +3jump, +pattack and romano's lastinv before you run out of things to discuss.
Sure, it's a good enough idea, but i don't think that scripting is significant enough to necessitate it's own forum.
<!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Nov 4 2004, 01:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Nov 4 2004, 01:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't really think there's all much point to this. The problem at the moment is not scripts but the people that disagree with them. You can move it to their own sub forum but there still will be people that whine.
Also, i don't think scripts are that big a deal to necessitate an entire sub forum for themselves. There's only so many times you can post +3jump, +pattack and romano's lastinv before you run out of things to discuss.
Sure, it's a good enough idea, but i don't think that scripting is significant enough to necessitate it's own forum. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> There are a lot more useful scripts than just that, though not everybody uses them. And as it stands, everytime a scripting topic pops up, trolls jump in and start argueing.
Sounds like a good idea. It would make sense if there was a General strategy forum with three subforums. Kharaa strategy, Frontiersmen, and Scripting help. It could indeed be similar to the customization forum with one stickied topic that links to scripts that are completed and another stickied thread that states the basics of scripting. Normal threads could simply be people asking for help, other's opinions, etc.
Exactly what Wither said, there are quite a few scripts out there that are useful and some scripts some people don't even know what they do. The discussions forum would really help increase the discussions on the forums without risk of those anti-scripting trolls to just bombard various scripting threads, derail it and get it locked, they'll just be banned from that subforum. Also, this is another great way to share to everyone, new and experienced players who have not used important scripts like the 3jump scripts before, to really show them what the scripts really do. The new subforum is also a place to discuss how useful scripts are and how to change them, tweak them, etc.
For example, the pistol script as someone mentioned up top, it may seem abusive but it really isn't. The script lets you shoot as fast as a person who prefers breaking his mouse since the pistol has a capped ROF. Of course if the devs feel that the pistol script was 'abusive', then they can easily fix that in a patch that lowers the pistol's ROF.
Another point that a person made was sticking the various well known yet controversial scripts. This way people can't start making stuff up about scripts, feigning ignorance when it's already stickied on the forums to educate the ones who don't know what certain scripts do. Another example is the blink-swipe and leap-bite scripts, a lot of people have the misconception that they make fades totally invincible and super powerful when that just isn't true, and when someone tries to explain why, people don't listen. A stickied thread would greatly aleviate that problem.
ZunniThe best thing to happen to I&S in a long whileJoin Date: 2002-11-26Member: 10016Members
Even if it gets to a point where there are say 1 dozen scripts or slightly more in total, discussion can stilll occur on the entire discussion of scripting as well as it becomes a place of reference where all the details have already been ironed out instead of having to rehash them every time someone goes looking for something.
Plus there are multiple ways to do a leap/bit script (for example) some allow for slightly greater control, this forum would allow people to show all methods and explain in detail why one is slightly better.
It's about having a place scripts can be discussed without the threat of having anyone from either side stepping over a line and getting banned because of a belief of thiers.
Even if it just becomes a repository of data, I think that this would be useful.
<!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Nov 4 2004, 10:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Nov 4 2004, 10:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Even if it just becomes a repository of data, I think that this would be useful. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> One that anyone can easily have access to, from the newest NS player that have just joined us to the various experienced 'veterans' (I use this to signify people who have played since the game came out, not the ones with the tags). Right now, it's pretty hard, I agree, to find information about scripts that aren't biased or very well explained. You really have to ask a certain group of people before being pointed in the right direction.
ZunniThe best thing to happen to I&S in a long whileJoin Date: 2002-11-26Member: 10016Members
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->One that anyone can easily have access to, from the newest NS player that have just joined us to the various experienced 'veterans' (I use this to signify people who have played since the game came out, not the ones with the tags). Right now, it's pretty hard, I agree, to find information about scripts that aren't biased or very well explained. You really have to ask a certain group of people before being pointed in the right direction. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree, imagine how easy it would be when someone asks about scripts you can link them right to that forum..
Or in game someone calls you a scriptz0r, just write what scripts you use, and link to the forums
"Oh, I use a 3 jump script for bhop, you can see the script I use @ www.natural-selection.org/blah"
The key is in the moderation and tbh, I'm not sure how that would be handled yet..
<!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Nov 3 2004, 01:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Nov 3 2004, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If nem0 is willing to take the time to make a new sub forum and supports the idea, why not?
hmmm, shouldn't this be in i & s? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It takes less than one minute to open VBulletin admin panel and add a new sub forum. >_>
<!--QuoteBegin-jammno+Nov 4 2004, 02:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jammno @ Nov 4 2004, 02:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Nov 3 2004, 01:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Nov 3 2004, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If nem0 is willing to take the time to make a new sub forum and supports the idea, why not?
hmmm, shouldn't this be in i & s? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It takes less than one minute to open VBulletin admin panel and add a new sub forum. >_> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> They'll have trouble finding VBulletin admin panel though. That would require uninstalling IPB and installing entirely different forum software.
Or of course, there's IPB's Admin panel, that might be easier. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-jammno+Nov 4 2004, 03:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jammno @ Nov 4 2004, 03:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Nov 3 2004, 01:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Nov 3 2004, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If nem0 is willing to take the time to make a new sub forum and supports the idea, why not?
hmmm, shouldn't this be in i & s? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It takes less than one minute to open VBulletin admin panel and add a new sub forum. >_> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It takes a lot more than 1 minute to ensure responsible mods are around to keep it clean and that the forum is organized. Give the powers that be on here some time.
Stupid me. Thinking this was a VBulletin forum. -_-;
Invision is just as easy. Though I'm more used to VBulletin admin panel than anything. Well maybe Ikonboard.
Doesn't this forum have "Super moderators" that can moderate all forums? They should be enough to keep the scripting sub forum clean until mods can be assigned to the forums.
ZunniThe best thing to happen to I&S in a long whileJoin Date: 2002-11-26Member: 10016Members
Obviously jammo, you haven't worked in an organization like this (or any other) before.. It's a matter of policy, deciding if the inevitable headaches are worth the benefit, and coming up with a logical structure in advance.. This all takes time LONG before the simple buttons are pushed to create the forum...
When I re-did I&S, I came up with the idea over a MONTH before it was implemented, this was because I not only had to sell others on the idea but setup in my mind a concrete vision of how I wanted information to flow in/out and how the process would work.
I then checked with some notible I&S people to see if they felt my idea held any water. Some agreed, some disagreed and more discussions were held.
We try our best to do things right the first time, and as such some patience is required while we go through the necessary process in something that looks so trivial and easy.
<!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Nov 4 2004, 10:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Nov 4 2004, 10:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When I re-did I&S, I came up with the idea over a MONTH before it was implemented, this was because I not only had to sell others on the idea but setup in my mind a concrete vision of how I wanted information to flow in/out and how the process would work.
I then checked with some notible I&S people to see if they felt my idea held any water. Some agreed, some disagreed and more discussions were held. ... Mark <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> New I&S Topic:
This is a good idea provided it doesn't become a place where the anti-scripting trolls come to flame.
*vote <span style='color:green'>yes</span>*
PS: Doesn't this belong in the I&S forum? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I think it fits General Discussions better since I&S is for the game itself it seems while most scripts have been discussed here, plus there are a lot more vocal people on scripts here than I&S.
<!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Nov 4 2004, 10:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Nov 4 2004, 10:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Obviously jammo, you haven't worked in an organization like this (or any other) before.. It's a matter of policy, deciding if the inevitable headaches are worth the benefit, and coming up with a logical structure in advance.. This all takes time LONG before the simple buttons are pushed to create the forum...
When I re-did I&S, I came up with the idea over a MONTH before it was implemented, this was because I not only had to sell others on the idea but setup in my mind a concrete vision of how I wanted information to flow in/out and how the process would work.
I then checked with some notible I&S people to see if they felt my idea held any water. Some agreed, some disagreed and more discussions were held.
We try our best to do things right the first time, and as such some patience is required while we go through the necessary process in something that looks so trivial and easy.
Mark <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No, I haven't worked in an organization, but I have used the forum software before when I used to admin a couple of community websites based off Blizzard games.
I look at this forum as a community website just like I do any forum. Not as some big business hot-shot forum where everything has to be done exactly by the workers or else it could cause a chain reaction of trolls / spammers / flamers to be born. Sort of like <a href='http://www.battle.net/forums/war3/board.aspx?ForumName=war3x-general' target='_blank'>these</a> awful company forums.
I think you guys overthink some of the forum regulations, but I'm not one to preach to the choir.
ZunniThe best thing to happen to I&S in a long whileJoin Date: 2002-11-26Member: 10016Members
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think you guys overthink some of the forum regulations, but I'm not one to preach to the choir.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I understand, but this community forum is a little more structured than most I think, there are specific rules and areas that need to be very well organized and explained.
I think I&S has been a smashing success due to the time spent, so I'd rather do this the right way the first time, then do it half-assed and either have to kill it, or have to shut it down for an overhaul..
How about just making a forum for those of us that play the game to win, because I personally hate all those people that always say "I play just to have fun so screwing my team over is your problem and not mine." I think this would clear up a lot more problems.
I don't see why this is such a hassle...As mentioned before, if people are gonna whine then just do it somewhere else, like post a disclaimer or something. I think it would be a good idea to sticky a little information and background about scripting aswell, because lot's of people don't even know what scripts are or more or less do for that matter...sorry if this was mentioned already.
I'd be willing to moderate a forum on scripting, I reckon if it was implemented then there should be a "Useful scripts" sticky thread which could only be added to by a mod. Maybe a stickied tutorial thread or two as well such as the one I posted: <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=74222' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...showtopic=74222</a> Though obviously it would need to be much more in depth than that. This would allow a quick reference for everyone of useful scripts without them having to dig through all the discussion.
ZunniThe best thing to happen to I&S in a long whileJoin Date: 2002-11-26Member: 10016Members
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Just curious Zunni, is there anyone besides you whose opinion actually matters that is considering/planning anything about this idea?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've had a conversation with other people who fit that description who agreed that it was an idea which had potential, it's a matter of proper execution..
As I stated above, it's not as simple as dropping a new forum into place..
So relax, the proper people know about this, and if they can find a way that they are comfortable to make it work, then it will be implemented properly in time..
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Okay so people who offered to mod this forum so far:
Me
Nadagast
Dragon Mech
any others I missed?
that's 3 potential mods for that forum if you approve of them.
any other questions/issues that need to be addressed?
EDIT: In case it wasn't clear, I'm just messing with him. lessthanthree nada <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
haha
exec alien_ns_veil_04.cfg
btw, new account <!--emo&::tsa::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tsa.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tsa.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Okay so people who offered to mod this forum so far:
Me
Nadagast
Dragon Mech
any others I missed?
that's 3 potential mods for that forum if you approve of them.
any other questions/issues that need to be addressed? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just to keep things on the sane side, I'd go for Scripting Forum mod(limited modding, aka). I'm not too great at scripts, but I understand them and don't have a hate for them at all. Heck, it'd help me find a few better chatbinds...
Perhaps create a new forum or forum group for the purpose of helping players improve, and then put not only this new scripting forum, but also the Frontiersmen Strategy and Kharaa Strategy forums, inside it. (Also possibly rename those forums, as they are only partially about strategy.)
Just one question about the moderating; how are we going to deal with really "abusive" scripts? I use scripts and i'm not against scripting at all but i still think some shouldn't be posted to the public eyes.
For example, i never used a pistol script in NS 1.x (before the ROF cap) cause it was really giving a huge advantage, morphing the pistol into a super-gauss-sniper-rifle. It was really abusing the lack of a ROF cap.
I think it will be hard to keep track of what is "too much" and what is not. Some people may think a 1.x pistol script is fine, but some may think the other way, including moderators ...
Also, i don't think scripts are that big a deal to necessitate an entire sub forum for themselves. There's only so many times you can post +3jump, +pattack and romano's lastinv before you run out of things to discuss.
Sure, it's a good enough idea, but i don't think that scripting is significant enough to necessitate it's own forum.
Also, i don't think scripts are that big a deal to necessitate an entire sub forum for themselves. There's only so many times you can post +3jump, +pattack and romano's lastinv before you run out of things to discuss.
Sure, it's a good enough idea, but i don't think that scripting is significant enough to necessitate it's own forum. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
There are a lot more useful scripts than just that, though not everybody uses them. And as it stands, everytime a scripting topic pops up, trolls jump in and start argueing.
Sounds like a good idea. It would make sense if there was a General strategy forum with three subforums. Kharaa strategy, Frontiersmen, and Scripting help. It could indeed be similar to the customization forum with one stickied topic that links to scripts that are completed and another stickied thread that states the basics of scripting. Normal threads could simply be people asking for help, other's opinions, etc.
For example, the pistol script as someone mentioned up top, it may seem abusive but it really isn't. The script lets you shoot as fast as a person who prefers breaking his mouse since the pistol has a capped ROF. Of course if the devs feel that the pistol script was 'abusive', then they can easily fix that in a patch that lowers the pistol's ROF.
Another point that a person made was sticking the various well known yet controversial scripts. This way people can't start making stuff up about scripts, feigning ignorance when it's already stickied on the forums to educate the ones who don't know what certain scripts do. Another example is the blink-swipe and leap-bite scripts, a lot of people have the misconception that they make fades totally invincible and super powerful when that just isn't true, and when someone tries to explain why, people don't listen. A stickied thread would greatly aleviate that problem.
Plus there are multiple ways to do a leap/bit script (for example) some allow for slightly greater control, this forum would allow people to show all methods and explain in detail why one is slightly better.
It's about having a place scripts can be discussed without the threat of having anyone from either side stepping over a line and getting banned because of a belief of thiers.
Even if it just becomes a repository of data, I think that this would be useful.
One that anyone can easily have access to, from the newest NS player that have just joined us to the various experienced 'veterans' (I use this to signify people who have played since the game came out, not the ones with the tags). Right now, it's pretty hard, I agree, to find information about scripts that aren't biased or very well explained. You really have to ask a certain group of people before being pointed in the right direction.
I agree, imagine how easy it would be when someone asks about scripts you can link them right to that forum..
Or in game someone calls you a scriptz0r, just write what scripts you use, and link to the forums
"Oh, I use a 3 jump script for bhop, you can see the script I use @ www.natural-selection.org/blah"
The key is in the moderation and tbh, I'm not sure how that would be handled yet..
hmmm, shouldn't this be in i & s? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It takes less than one minute to open VBulletin admin panel and add a new sub forum. >_>
hmmm, shouldn't this be in i & s? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It takes less than one minute to open VBulletin admin panel and add a new sub forum. >_> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
They'll have trouble finding VBulletin admin panel though. That would require uninstalling IPB and installing entirely different forum software.
Or of course, there's IPB's Admin panel, that might be easier. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
hmmm, shouldn't this be in i & s? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It takes less than one minute to open VBulletin admin panel and add a new sub forum. >_> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It takes a lot more than 1 minute to ensure responsible mods are around to keep it clean and that the forum is organized. Give the powers that be on here some time.
I nominate myself
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Invision is just as easy. Though I'm more used to VBulletin admin panel than anything. Well maybe Ikonboard.
Doesn't this forum have "Super moderators" that can moderate all forums? They should be enough to keep the scripting sub forum clean until mods can be assigned to the forums.
When I re-did I&S, I came up with the idea over a MONTH before it was implemented, this was because I not only had to sell others on the idea but setup in my mind a concrete vision of how I wanted information to flow in/out and how the process would work.
I then checked with some notible I&S people to see if they felt my idea held any water. Some agreed, some disagreed and more discussions were held.
We try our best to do things right the first time, and as such some patience is required while we go through the necessary process in something that looks so trivial and easy.
Mark
I then checked with some notible I&S people to see if they felt my idea held any water. Some agreed, some disagreed and more discussions were held.
...
Mark <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
New I&S Topic:
Remove Red tape and bureaucracy from NS forums!
*vote <span style='color:green'>yes</span>*
PS: Doesn't this belong in the I&S forum? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
When I re-did I&S, I came up with the idea over a MONTH before it was implemented, this was because I not only had to sell others on the idea but setup in my mind a concrete vision of how I wanted information to flow in/out and how the process would work.
I then checked with some notible I&S people to see if they felt my idea held any water. Some agreed, some disagreed and more discussions were held.
We try our best to do things right the first time, and as such some patience is required while we go through the necessary process in something that looks so trivial and easy.
Mark <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, I haven't worked in an organization, but I have used the forum software before when I used to admin a couple of community websites based off Blizzard games.
I look at this forum as a community website just like I do any forum. Not as some big business hot-shot forum where everything has to be done exactly by the workers or else it could cause a chain reaction of trolls / spammers / flamers to be born. Sort of like <a href='http://www.battle.net/forums/war3/board.aspx?ForumName=war3x-general' target='_blank'>these</a> awful company forums.
I think you guys overthink some of the forum regulations, but I'm not one to preach to the choir.
<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I understand, but this community forum is a little more structured than most I think, there are specific rules and areas that need to be very well organized and explained.
I think I&S has been a smashing success due to the time spent, so I'd rather do this the right way the first time, then do it half-assed and either have to kill it, or have to shut it down for an overhaul..
That some of my thoughts on it anyway.
I've had a conversation with other people who fit that description who agreed that it was an idea which had potential, it's a matter of proper execution..
As I stated above, it's not as simple as dropping a new forum into place..
So relax, the proper people know about this, and if they can find a way that they are comfortable to make it work, then it will be implemented properly in time..