Scripting Forum (request)

SpaceJesusSpaceJesus Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29683Banned
<div class="IPBDescription">get all that OT out of threads</div> I'm sure by now most of you have witnessed a large amount of threads on the topic of scripts/scripting simply degenerate into sessions of flamebait-and-wait.

I think I may have the answer.
Create a dedicated Scripting Forum, possibly a sub-forum in "NS Customization" seeing as it is, strictly speaking, customizing NS.

However - the benefits that I see from doing this are:



- Scripting discussion moved out of irrelevant forums such as General.

- Reduced flame-wars (because anti-scripters are unlikely to read the Scripting forum often, and if they do they're probably looking to start flaming - hence it will be easier to moderate)

- More productive scripting discussions

- More Players Educated about scripts (with any luck) seeing as they would then have a place to discuss them.

- Better player awareness of scripting





The only possible disadvantages that I can think of at the moment would be:


- Mass flame-age (however it should be easier to moderate as mentioned above)


- Anti-scripters arguing in there against scripts and thereby starting the monthly flamebait thread you usually see in the General forum (not to say that anti-scripters start it - just that pro and anti-scripters in the same place usually means flameage).





In either case if it gets that bad you (the forum mods) could close the forum and potentially have lost nothing from it, except one avenue of exploration on the road to removing scripting discussions from irrelevant forums.
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  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    If nem0 is willing to take the time to make a new sub forum and supports the idea, why not?


    hmmm, shouldn't this be in i & s?
  • sawcesawce Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10787Members
    Although it sounds kind of silly to have a forum dedicated to something so trivial, I agree.
  • TheAdjTheAdj He demanded a cool forum title of some type. Join Date: 2004-05-03 Member: 28436Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Agreed. Make it so.
  • MintmanMintman Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16866Members
    Whatever happens I'll still help people make legitimate scripts wherever they're asking for them!
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    I know nothing about scripts, so sure. Wouldn't like a big stickied thread of helpful scripts be easier? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SpaceJesusSpaceJesus Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29683Banned
    ditto, except this way we can move all scripting discussion out of the general forum - that way less people will happen across it and decide to flame someone because they dont like scripts.

    It will also give the scripting community a place to congregate to discuss scripting in all (legal) forms, without the current large risk of starting a flame-war if their post even contains the word "script".
  • the_holethe_hole Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25019Members, Constellation
    I would definatly be available to manage these forums, seeing as I give help every day in NSLearn to people with scripting needs, managing a forums on something I'm good at would be no big problem.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    This probably isn't going to happen.
  • MrGunnerMrGunner Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11757Members, Constellation
    I nominate Pro and for the humour vote I pick Forlorn. I mean it's something he's good at and it means (hopefully) less posts in General.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    Oh God! Forlorn... mod...
    AAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I'm all for diversifying the forums, and I agree that it will remove the flames from Gen Discus. Moderation and implementation are still iffy though.
  • ClashenClashen Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20087Members
    or just use the customization-forum.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>if you support this idea, voice your oppinion by PMing nemesis zero</span>

    as he is the one who has final say in this matter. If a large number of people agree, then it shouldn't be that big of an issue.

    I know the very basics of scripting, and a script forum would be most definetly help me improve my knowledge.
  • SpaceJesusSpaceJesus Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29683Banned
    Yes I agree, it probably will need closer moderation than most other forums.

    But if you take the time to think about it:

    Most avid anti-scripters are gonna look at the forum name and would never even think about reading any of the threads in there. I mean if you're against scripting then why would you look through the scripting forum?

    Implementation is a bit iffy at the moment - however I'm sure that there are a fair few people who frequent these forums who would be more than willling the help moderate it - however people the mod team are willing to give privilidges is probably far fewer.

    But then again I'm just making the suggestion, it isn't our place to suggest who we would like to see moderating the forum - thats up to the mod team. If they would be looking for more people to moderate this (potential) forum, then I'd be more than willing to help out. However, again, I don't think it's really our place to discuss who we would like to see moderate it, that's ultimately up to the mod team.
  • crisanocrisano Join Date: 2004-09-01 Member: 31152Members
    Good idea, I concur. A excellent first step to show that scripts are actually acknowledged in NS by the NS Team and also a place where we can actually discuss in peace without worrying about offending others or inducing flamewars.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Nov 3 2004, 07:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Nov 3 2004, 07:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if you support this idea, voice your oppinion by PMing nemesis zero

    as he is the one who has final say in this matter. If a large number of people agree, then it shouldn't be that big of an issue. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, because he'll <b>love</b> you for that, honestly TAK. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    - Shockwave
  • SpaceJesusSpaceJesus Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29683Banned
    How about just posting in this thread saying "actually this could work, at least give it a go"

    I'm sure the mods would be a <b>tad</b> sight more appreciative if you did that instead of PM spamming them.
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Shockwave+Nov 3 2004, 06:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Nov 3 2004, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Nov 3 2004, 07:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Nov 3 2004, 07:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if you support this idea, voice your oppinion by PMing nemesis zero

    as he is the one who has final say in this matter. If a large number of people agree, then it shouldn't be that big of an issue. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, because he'll <b>love</b> you for that, honestly TAK. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    - Shockwave <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can see the news page now.

    <i>"350 members of NS community banned for spamming a forum admin with requests!"</i>

    Poor old Nem.
  • SpaceJesusSpaceJesus Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29683Banned
    edited November 2004
    Okay, now moving <b>back</b> to the thread topic...


    [offtopic]
    I feel like a **** now, just looked at my member number and thought it was my post count, I was like "....wthbbq".
    [/offtopic]
  • sawcesawce Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10787Members
    Too late, already did my part in spamming nem's inbox.

    Err I mean voicing my support.

    >_>

    <_<
  • DrummerDrummer Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26654Members
    anything that would reduce the number of flames on the forums is worth giving a try

    i vote.....LORK! <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    Side note: Blasting Nem with 100's of PMs isn't going to help you with this.. If anything this will just serve to cheeze Nem off..

    I also think it's a good idea, imagine a place where you can honestly talk about the benefits of one script vs. another slightly different script???

    But I am very concerned about the amount of flaming that would ensue.. The mods are all very busy as is.. And who would want to moderate that forum... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    edited November 2004
    Zunni "The best thing to happen to I&S and the Scripts Forum in a long while"

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-AlienCow!+Nov 3 2004, 08:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AlienCow! @ Nov 3 2004, 08:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Zunni "The best thing to happened to I&S and the Scripts Forum in a long while"

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ^^ ftw
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Nov 3 2004, 02:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Nov 3 2004, 02:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But I am very concerned about the amount of flaming that would ensue.. The mods are all very busy as is.. And who would want to moderate that forum... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah... I think that's the problem... As you mentioned with all the other threads about scripting going to hell, one could assume that the forum would too. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited November 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Nov 3 2004, 01:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Nov 3 2004, 01:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But I am very concerned about the amount of flaming that would ensue.. The mods are all very busy as is.. And who would want to moderate that forum... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I would. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I'm also fairly sure other people would feel the same way. I think a scripting forum would be a good way for people to become informed about scripting and what it can and cannot do.
  • Swift_IdiotSwift_Idiot Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11883Members
  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    edited November 2004
    lol, I don't think people want me stepping in as the mod of that forum <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I tend to not screw around and simply delete the crap as evidenced by I&S(which is not generally a mods job, but I do it anyway <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> )

    ----

    However, if done right it would give the clanners/pro scripters a great place to share their knowledge and help guide new players in a direction.

    Others not interested in scripts don't have to visit there and if they did and tried to start crap, they would simply be put down the standard moderation path.

    Really what I'd like so see (forgive me large scale vision <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) is threads talking about specific scripts and how they work.. (pinned)

    Have one topic (only one) for the discussion of scripts yeah/nay...

    And have any topics that match an already discussed script combined/removed.

    Perhaps also a tutorial so people can learn scripting...

    Just my random thoughts..
  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    This is a great idea. I say it's at least worth a try.

    : )
  • NadagastNadagast Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6884Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Nov 3 2004, 12:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Nov 3 2004, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And who would want to moderate that forum... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ME




    btw: SCRIPTZ ARE EV1L.
  • rennexrennex Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2688Members
    edited November 2004
    I was waiting for configast to post.

    EDIT: In case it wasn't clear, I'm just messing with him. lessthanthree nada
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