Companies Sued For Using 3d Images In Games

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  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    edited November 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-SoulSkorpion+Nov 3 2004, 09:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Nov 3 2004, 09:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-_Creep_+Nov 3 2004, 09:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (_Creep_ @ Nov 3 2004, 09:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It is interesting that Microsoft hasn't been listed given that they are the developers of Direct3D, probably the single most popular 3D API in modern gaming.  I expect that the relatively simple concept of rotating viewpoints in 3D space is implemented in Direct3D, and therefore, Microsott would be the primary infringers. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not as far as I know. It'd be unusual for something as high-level as a circle strafing camera to be included as part of an API.

    Graphics APIs are along the lines of "draw a triangle at these three points" or "rotate everything X degrees this way". This is a little bit more complicated, as it's "rotate everything such that it looks like we've moved position". <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    From my understanding of the patent, it refers to moving (panning ?) a scene from the viewer's perspective.

    I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of the d3d API. However, a cursory glance at the d3d header files (the MSDN is useless) does seem to imply that animation is part of the of API. I think d3d is close to infringing the patent.

    However, the patent holder is stuffed. There were plenty of 3d games on the early home computer platforms that involved presenting a 3d scene on 2d hardware and moving the viewer's perspective of it. For example, <a href='http://www.crashonline.org.uk/22/elite.htm' target='_blank'>Elite</a> was released on the Spectrum 48k platform in November 1985, at least 18 months before the patent was even filed. This probably demonstrates prior art which invalidates the patent. It is possible that Elite didn't implement sideways movement, only rotation. In which case, some of the later games that Elite spawned probably did implement it. For example, <a href='http://www.crashonline.org.uk/23/tauceti.htm' target='_blank'>Tau Ceti</a>, <a href='http://www.crashonline.org.uk/36/academy.htm' target='_blank'>Academy</a>. Then we have the driving games such are <a href='http://www.crashonline.org.uk/28/tesprit.htm' target='_blank'>Turbo Esprit </a> etc...

    I don't think this patent has a prayer.
  • PithlitPithlit Join Date: 2003-05-07 Member: 16120Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Marik_Steele+Nov 2 2004, 11:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Nov 2 2004, 11:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [QUOTE=Dr.Suredeath,Nov 2 2004, 05:11 PM]
    I could probably apply for a patent on a "mounted apparatus effectuating reception of nonlinearly projected liquids" tomorrow, and I'd be able to sue every sink, toilet, and urinal-making company in the world. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sigged
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    My Monocular reading contraption, sprung forth from my carniums left most eye-socket while trying to comprehend the stuponfucious nature of this legal patent documentation!

    I will simply ride my crocolocdoclian down to my local congressman and protest this aborish misinterpretation of the truth FORTHWITH.
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    Bah, I'm patenting stupidity. Then I can sue this guy.
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    I was talking to a professor of mine who is familiar with the patent office. He hasn't looked at it yet but he says that if a published article describing the method is dated prior to the patent, then that patent is no longer valid. Good news, because the type of stuff the guy was talking about was being talked about in the 1960s.
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-cshank4+Nov 3 2004, 06:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cshank4 @ Nov 3 2004, 06:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Bah, I'm patenting stupidity. Then I can sue this guy.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    LOL
    I think stupidity should be made illegal.
    <!--QuoteBegin-bash.org+ I think--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (bash.org @ I think)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->There shouldn't be capital punishment for stupidity. We just let the problem solve itself - take the safety labels off everything!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gwahir+Nov 3 2004, 06:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gwahir @ Nov 3 2004, 06:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I was talking to a professor of mine who is familiar with the patent office. He hasn't looked at it yet but he says that if a published article describing the method is dated prior to the patent, then that patent is no longer valid. Good news, because the type of stuff the guy was talking about was being talked about in the 1960s. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Great news.

    And Epidemic, give up already. No one cares if you don't like the companies, hell I don't like all of them either. I mean, Vivendi? Yeah, the hell, right! The fact of the matter is, unless you are the type of person who lays in wait on dark nights in shadowy places so that you can mug passers-by, you really can't rationalize this guy's behavior. As I understand it, this man's actions are vile. The type of person the victim is doesn't matter.

    If someone gets murdered, you don't look at the guy who got murdered, and on the opinion that he is a bastage, invalidate the entire case.
  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Great news.

    And Epidemic, give up already.  No one cares if you don't like <span style='color:red'>the</span> companies, hell I don't like all of them either.  I mean, Vivendi?  Yeah, <span style='color:red'>the</span> hell, right!  <span style='color:red'>The</span> fact of <span style='color:red'>the</span> matter is, unless you are <span style='color:red'>the</span> type of person who lays in wait on dark nights in shadowy places so that you can mug passers-by, you really can't rationalize this guy's behavior.  As I understand it, this man's actions are vile.  <span style='color:red'>The</span> type of person the victim is doesn't matter. 

    If someone gets murdered, you don't look at <span style='color:red'>the</span> guy who got murdered, and on <span style='color:red'>the</span> opinion that he is a bastage, invalidate <span style='color:red'>the</span> entire case.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    You have mentioned The© word The© 10 times in your post. I expect to see you in court shortly, as you are infringing on my patent.



    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>The© 1997, 2004</span>
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+Nov 3 2004, 11:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ Nov 3 2004, 11:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Great news.

    And Epidemic, give up already.  No one cares if you don't like <span style='color:red'>the</span> companies, hell I don't like all of them either.  I mean, Vivendi?  Yeah, <span style='color:red'>the</span> hell, right!  <span style='color:red'>The</span> fact of <span style='color:red'>the</span> matter is, unless you are <span style='color:red'>the</span> type of person who lays in wait on dark nights in shadowy places so that you can mug passers-by, you really can't rationalize this guy's behavior.  As I understand it, this man's actions are vile.  <span style='color:red'>The</span> type of person the victim is doesn't matter. 

    If someone gets murdered, you don't look at <span style='color:red'>the</span> guy who got murdered, and on <span style='color:red'>the</span> opinion that he is a bastage, invalidate <span style='color:red'>the</span> entire case.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    You have mentioned The© word The© 10 times in your post. I expect to see you in court shortly, as you are infringing on my patent.



    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>The© 1997, 2004</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <i><b><span style='font-size:15pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:yellow'>OHNOES! I AM TEH RUIN-ED!!!</span></span></b></i>
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 05:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 05:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+Nov 3 2004, 11:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ Nov 3 2004, 11:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Great news.

    And Epidemic, give up already.  No one cares if you don't like <span style='color:red'>the</span> companies, hell I don't like all of them either.  I mean, Vivendi?  Yeah, <span style='color:red'>the</span> hell, right!  <span style='color:red'>The</span> fact of <span style='color:red'>the</span> matter is, unless you are <span style='color:red'>the</span> type of person who lays in wait on dark nights in shadowy places so that you can mug passers-by, you really can't rationalize this guy's behavior.  As I understand it, this man's actions are vile.  <span style='color:red'>The</span> type of person the victim is doesn't matter. 

    If someone gets murdered, you don't look at <span style='color:red'>the</span> guy who got murdered, and on <span style='color:red'>the</span> opinion that he is a bastage, invalidate <span style='color:red'>the</span> entire case.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    You have mentioned The© word The© 10 times in your post. I expect to see you in court shortly, as you are infringing on my patent.



    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>The© 1997, 2004</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <i><b><span style='font-size:15pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:yellow'>OHNOES! I AM TEH RUIN-ED!!!</span></span></b></i> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Omg teh win! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Seriously. What the heck is this guy thinking? That he gets away with it that easy? Common if he wins all the gamers in teh world will get mad at him... and I sure don't want that to happen to me.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Tyrain+Nov 3 2004, 11:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tyrain @ Nov 3 2004, 11:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 05:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 05:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+Nov 3 2004, 11:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ Nov 3 2004, 11:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Great news.

    And Epidemic, give up already.  No one cares if you don't like <span style='color:red'>the</span> companies, hell I don't like all of them either.  I mean, Vivendi?  Yeah, <span style='color:red'>the</span> hell, right!  <span style='color:red'>The</span> fact of <span style='color:red'>the</span> matter is, unless you are <span style='color:red'>the</span> type of person who lays in wait on dark nights in shadowy places so that you can mug passers-by, you really can't rationalize this guy's behavior.  As I understand it, this man's actions are vile.  <span style='color:red'>The</span> type of person the victim is doesn't matter. 

    If someone gets murdered, you don't look at <span style='color:red'>the</span> guy who got murdered, and on <span style='color:red'>the</span> opinion that he is a bastage, invalidate <span style='color:red'>the</span> entire case.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    You have mentioned The© word The© 10 times in your post. I expect to see you in court shortly, as you are infringing on my patent.



    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>The© 1997, 2004</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <i><b><span style='font-size:15pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:yellow'>OHNOES! I AM TEH RUIN-ED!!!</span></span></b></i> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Omg teh win! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Seriously. What the heck is this guy thinking? That he gets away with it that easy? Common if he wins all the gamers in teh world will get mad at him... and I sure don't want that to happen to me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Better not **** off the gamers, everyone knows that thier the ones who go on psyco rampages every now and then.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    Guys, I seriously think someone will be crazy enough to attack him if he wins. I mean think about it, there are bound to be crazy people out there coughx5cough who know like secret asian fighting techniques and have loads of guns and post under obscure names coughx5cough that will want revenge on him.

    Okay, in actuality, has he even been identified yet? Or is his personal information completely protected. Because if it isn't, then I sense trouble in his future, hate mail to begin with, but he may get some more serious crazies going after him. Not that he wouldn't deserve the hate mail though.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    edited November 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 3 2004, 11:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 3 2004, 11:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Guys, I seriously think someone will be crazy enough to attack him if he wins.  I mean think about it, there are bound to be crazy people out there <b><span style='color:red'>cough<span style='color:yellow'>x5</span>cough</span></b> who know like secret asian fighting techniques and have loads of guns and post under obscure names <b><span style='color:red'>cough<span style='color:yellow'>x5</span>cough</span></b> that will want revenge on him.

    Okay, in actuality, has he even been identified yet?  Or is his personal information completely protected.  Because if it isn't, then I sense trouble in his future, hate mail to begin with, but he may get some more serious crazies going after him.  Not that he wouldn't deserve the hate mail though. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Subtle.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+Nov 4 2004, 12:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ Nov 4 2004, 12:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Great news.

    And Epidemic, give up already.  No one cares if you don't like <span style='color:red'>the</span> companies, hell I don't like all of them either.  I mean, Vivendi?  Yeah, <span style='color:red'>the</span> hell, right!  <span style='color:red'>The</span> fact of <span style='color:red'>the</span> matter is, unless you are <span style='color:red'>the</span> type of person who lays in wait on dark nights in shadowy places so that you can mug passers-by, you really can't rationalize this guy's behavior.  As I understand it, this man's actions are vile.  <span style='color:red'>The</span> type of person the victim is doesn't matter. 

    If someone gets murdered, you don't look at <span style='color:red'>the</span> guy who got murdered, and on <span style='color:red'>the</span> opinion that he is a bastage, invalidate <span style='color:red'>the</span> entire case.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    You have mentioned The© word The© 10 times in your post. I expect to see you in court shortly, as you are infringing on my patent.



    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>The© 1997, 2004</span> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    do you commonly print the copyright logo after your non-patentable patented items?
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gwahir+Nov 4 2004, 12:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gwahir @ Nov 4 2004, 12:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+Nov 4 2004, 12:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ Nov 4 2004, 12:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Great news.

    And Epidemic, give up already.  No one cares if you don't like <span style='color:red'>the</span> companies, hell I don't like all of them either.  I mean, Vivendi?  Yeah, <span style='color:red'>the</span> hell, right!  <span style='color:red'>The</span> fact of <span style='color:red'>the</span> matter is, unless you are <span style='color:red'>the</span> type of person who lays in wait on dark nights in shadowy places so that you can mug passers-by, you really can't rationalize this guy's behavior.  As I understand it, this man's actions are vile.  <span style='color:red'>The</span> type of person the victim is doesn't matter. 

    If someone gets murdered, you don't look at <span style='color:red'>the</span> guy who got murdered, and on <span style='color:red'>the</span> opinion that he is a bastage, invalidate <span style='color:red'>the</span> entire case.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    You have mentioned The© word The© 10 times in your post. I expect to see you in court shortly, as you are infringing on my patent.



    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>The© 1997, 2004</span> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    do you commonly print the copyright logo after your non-patentable patented items? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Saved! By a more rational thinker than myself!

    LOL Swift, owned by Testament of all people. You got steamrolled by a troll! w00t.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gwahir+Nov 3 2004, 09:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gwahir @ Nov 3 2004, 09:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+Nov 4 2004, 12:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ Nov 4 2004, 12:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 3 2004, 10:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Great news.

    And Epidemic, give up already.  No one cares if you don't like <span style='color:red'>the</span> companies, hell I don't like all of them either.  I mean, Vivendi?  Yeah, <span style='color:red'>the</span> hell, right!  <span style='color:red'>The</span> fact of <span style='color:red'>the</span> matter is, unless you are <span style='color:red'>the</span> type of person who lays in wait on dark nights in shadowy places so that you can mug passers-by, you really can't rationalize this guy's behavior.  As I understand it, this man's actions are vile.  <span style='color:red'>The</span> type of person the victim is doesn't matter. 

    If someone gets murdered, you don't look at <span style='color:red'>the</span> guy who got murdered, and on <span style='color:red'>the</span> opinion that he is a bastage, invalidate <span style='color:red'>the</span> entire case.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    You have mentioned The© word The© 10 times in your post. I expect to see you in court shortly, as you are infringing on my patent.



    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>The© 1997, 2004</span> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    do you commonly print the copyright logo after your non-patentable patented items? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ©, © Mantrid, 2004.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> LOL Swift, owned by Testament of all people. You got steamrolled by a troll! w00t. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't see anything... What are you talking about?
  • juicejuice Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12886Members, Constellation
    And I'm suing Charlie Cleveland, aka Flayra. refer to my u.s. patent no.1049383...

    "Small units composed of various materials which have functions not limited to resource production and teleportation."

    One word: Nanites.

    Man am I gonna be rich. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Nov 4 2004, 12:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Nov 4 2004, 12:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> LOL Swift, owned by Testament of all people.  You got steamrolled by a troll!  w00t. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't see anything... What are you talking about? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nice try buddy. "Suttle" LOL.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Nov 4 2004, 12:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Nov 4 2004, 12:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> LOL Swift, owned by Testament of all people.  You got steamrolled by a troll!  w00t. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't see anything... What are you talking about? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nice try buddy. "Suttle" LOL. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lol? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Nov 4 2004, 12:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Nov 4 2004, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Nov 4 2004, 12:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Nov 4 2004, 12:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> LOL Swift, owned by Testament of all people.  You got steamrolled by a troll!  w00t. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't see anything... What are you talking about? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nice try buddy. "Suttle" LOL. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lol? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I still liked your interpretation of pyramid as pyrimid better though.
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 3 2004, 10:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 3 2004, 10:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Nov 4 2004, 12:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Nov 4 2004, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Nov 4 2004, 12:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Nov 4 2004, 12:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> LOL Swift, owned by Testament of all people.  You got steamrolled by a troll!  w00t. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't see anything... What are you talking about? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nice try buddy. "Suttle" LOL. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lol? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I still liked your interpretation of pyramid as pyrimid better though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You mean waste bandwidth style?
  • briktalbriktal Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20021Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-JediYoshi+Nov 4 2004, 01:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ Nov 4 2004, 01:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 3 2004, 10:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 3 2004, 10:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Nov 4 2004, 12:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Nov 4 2004, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Nov 4 2004, 12:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Nov 4 2004, 12:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> LOL Swift, owned by Testament of all people.  You got steamrolled by a troll!  w00t. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't see anything... What are you talking about? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nice try buddy. "Suttle" LOL. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lol? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I still liked your interpretation of pyramid as pyrimid better though. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You mean waste bandwidth style?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Indeed.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-_Creep_+Nov 3 2004, 11:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (_Creep_ @ Nov 3 2004, 11:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> From my understanding of the patent, it refers to moving (panning ?) a scene from the viewer's perspective. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not exactly. It's talking about moving the scene as if the camera is pointing at some specific point, then moves to the side so that it's still pointing at the same location and so that the distance between the camera and the location doesn't change (ie, as if the camera were circling this point). It's a combination of translational and rotational movement, whereas a graphics API typically provides only the basic facilities for translating and rotating. It's up to the programmer to use a combination of translating and rotating to get the affect described.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Nov 4 2004, 12:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Nov 4 2004, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Nov 4 2004, 12:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Nov 4 2004, 12:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> LOL Swift, owned by Testament of all people.  You got steamrolled by a troll!  w00t. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't see anything... What are you talking about? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nice try buddy. "Suttle" LOL. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lol? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I still liked your interpretation of pyramid as pyrimid better though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <img src='http://swiftspear.0x01a4.com/Img/GrammerNazi.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SoulSkorpion+Nov 4 2004, 01:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Nov 4 2004, 01:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-_Creep_+Nov 3 2004, 11:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (_Creep_ @ Nov 3 2004, 11:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> From my understanding of the patent, it refers to moving (panning ?) a scene from the viewer's perspective. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not exactly. It's talking about moving the scene as if the camera is pointing at some specific point, then moves to the side so that it's still pointing at the same location and so that the distance between the camera and the location doesn't change (ie, as if the camera were circling this point). It's a combination of translational and rotational movement, whereas a graphics API typically provides only the basic facilities for translating and rotating. It's up to the programmer to use a combination of translating and rotating to get the affect described. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OK, I'm with you now.

    I still don't think this patent has a chance. It's like patenting the idea of ctrl-clicking because you can't patent clicking.
  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Nov 4 2004, 02:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Nov 4 2004, 02:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <img src='http://swiftspear.0x01a4.com/Img/GrammerNazi.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Except for exceptions. Eg Weird.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-_Creep_+Nov 4 2004, 02:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (_Creep_ @ Nov 4 2004, 02:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Nov 4 2004, 02:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Nov 4 2004, 02:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <img src='http://swiftspear.0x01a4.com/Img/GrammerNazi.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Except for exceptions. Eg Weird. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What's done is done, and cannot be changed... Did the man say there are no exceptions? No, just leave it be.
  • marcemarce Join Date: 2004-08-24 Member: 30869Members
    I like how it states the "i before e, except after c" rule, and then in the very next frame tells you about "their"
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