Gamingorb Nations Cup!?!?

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  • LumpLump Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15558Members
    please stop talking about scripts now.

    i made a team Canada forum after a special request!!!

    gogogogo <a href='http://www.gamingorb.com/forum/index.php?showforum=74' target='_blank'>TeamCanada!</a>

    get applying. if anyone wants a team Aus or New Zealand etc. just let me know in our cup forums.

    Also i need someone from over the atlantic to help me with admining the cup. preferably someone who idles on quakenet as that is where the majority of the cup is run from.

    lump`
  • KeyserKeyser Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13591Members
    How can you say using mwheel is an unfair advantage? For christ sakes if you have a mouse, theres a 99.9% chance of having an mwheel. That is the equivalent of saying binding your keys to something different is unfair, because not everyone might know how to do it.
  • LumpLump Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15558Members
  • zaikozaiko Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9716Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-obuh+Oct 28 2004, 05:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (obuh @ Oct 28 2004, 05:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey guys, quickly remove your mousewheels, it's so lame omg !

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->_special, scripts, mousewheel or macros - it's the same thing<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah right. Looks like you don't really know what they do. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    well, so you are saying theyre not used for the same purpose?
    _special included scripts that spams +jump so you jump instantly when you hit the ground
    mousewheels with added pgups/downs to spam with one scroll to jump instantly when you hit the ground
    3jumpscripts to spam +jump trice to make it easier to time?

    in what way isn't that the same area?

    wow, im really flathered by your small inputs

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->zaiko, first of all my postcount has nothing do to with my skill or my knowledge. Thinking otherwise is just stupid.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    i'ts called irony

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->May I ask how spamming a command is getting an advantage? Shooting fast with the pistol with mouse1 bound to +attack is spamming a command. Maybe we should forbid that?

    May I also ask, what makes spamming a command with the mouse and the mousewheel any different?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    spamming a command automaticly is an advantage
    you can easily do this with your mousewheel, scripts (such as 3jump) or macros


    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why does it give such a great advantage to be able to spam a command?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    for example bunnyhoping, instantly when you hit the ground you jump again

    another example, shooting with your pistol doing bursts, theyre more effective of lifeforms standing still or bigger ones in movement

    you disagree?

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Absolutley not. What makes it so different is that 3jumpscripts still DO require timing - just 1/3 less of what bind space +jump does.
    The reason why _special is frowned upon and disliked is because it only requires you to simply hold a key and thereby get perfect timing. Thats a major difference.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    hold a key to active and deactive is the same issue as having it 1/3 easier time to time when you hit the ground
    let's say you increase the ammout of spammed jumps into your script, wouldn't it be even easier?


    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, thats their choice. Dont restrict other people from using scripts just because you/they dont like them.

    I accept that you dont like scripts and refuse to use them. Just dont come to the NSforums and calling everyone else for nubs/idiots/whatever for not thinking the same way you do.

    I think that you should read forlorn's topic regarding scrubs, it might give you something to think about.
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    first of all, i never called ANYONE an idiot, a noob or as you say "whatever"

    i accept scripts as long as they doesnt spam commands to get an advantage that any other player couldnt make normaly
    such as hitting the jump button all the time to time when theyre going down to the ground or fast burts of pistol shots

    the major problem with scripting right now is making bunnyhop easier by spamming the jump command

    hopefully you know what i have been talking about now
  • BuggyBuggy Join Date: 2003-11-08 Member: 22400Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    nm.

    Just drop the whole scripting debate though, its pointless trying to ram someone's opinion down someone elses throat.
  • CerebralCerebral Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17689Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-zaiko+Oct 28 2004, 12:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (zaiko @ Oct 28 2004, 12:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hold a key to active and deactive is the same issue as having it 1/3 easier time to time when you hit the ground
    let's say you increase the ammout of spammed jumps into your script, wouldn't it be even easier?
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    this line proves how little you know about the topic at hand...if someone else cares to explain to him why that makes no sense then have at it...i'd rather not waste the time
  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    Ohnoes teh +jump is being spammed.

    _special, +jumps scripts and the mousewheel are not the same. _special lets you hold down a key and jump continually. A +3jumps script gives a small margin to time your jumps. Binding mousewheel to + jump lets you scroll it a bit when you are about to touch the ground.
  • LumpLump Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15558Members
    can you all please just stop arguing over this. its not useful and doesn't make you sexy.

    scripts, some people hate em, some people love them. BIG WOW.

    more Cup less spam kekeke?

    lump`
  • comradecomrade Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23774Members
    "Gamingorb Nations Cup!?!?"

    not

    "SCRIPT DEBATE HERE PLEASE"
  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    OMG Gamingorg owns your spacebar in the face !
  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
    This is what happens when you have amarc running your leagues rather than othell. Dammit i want to move to the US - LAND OF THE FREE!
  • zaikozaiko Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9716Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cerebral+Oct 28 2004, 06:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cerebral @ Oct 28 2004, 06:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-zaiko+Oct 28 2004, 12:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (zaiko @ Oct 28 2004, 12:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hold a key to active and deactive is the same issue as having it 1/3 easier time to time when you hit the ground
    let's say you increase the ammout of spammed jumps into your script, wouldn't it be even easier?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    this line proves how little you know about the topic at hand...if someone else cares to explain to him why that makes no sense then have at it...i'd rather not waste the time <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i know why it doesnt make sense,
    it still gets harder because of the delay of the actual script (how the script is structured)

    i was just curious if coris knew since he was the one leading the arguments from the other side.

    it's still easier, and if you want to make everything easier you should really start doing sv_autoaim 1 as i said before

    skill - it's skill as long as you can do something without having something easied up for you
    3jumpscript isnt always the best solution, you might need one button bound to normal jump for some other things - but it still helps you in your bunnyhopping not to think of something so obvious (that should be automated by you and not a loop) as timing.
  • zaikozaiko Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9716Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Lump+Oct 28 2004, 06:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lump @ Oct 28 2004, 06:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> can you all please just stop arguing over this. its not useful and doesn't make you sexy.

    scripts, some people hate em, some people love them. BIG WOW.

    more Cup less spam kekeke?

    lump` <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i think it's relevant to the cup since it's about one rule
    mp_bs 1

    and here you got the argumrnts lined up

    i won't reply to any more arugments around it though, since you have asked enough times at this point
  • Travis_DaneTravis_Dane Join Date: 2003-04-06 Member: 15249Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-zaiko+Oct 28 2004, 06:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (zaiko @ Oct 28 2004, 06:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i think it's relevant to the cup since it's about one rule
    mp_bs 1<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not sure about that.

    As been said many times by most people, scripts are supposed to offer 'convience', that means it wouldnt be a disaster if you couldnt use them. If it really is a that big a deal for TeamUS to argue over it i cant help but laugh.
  • tjosantjosan Join Date: 2003-05-16 Member: 16374Members, Constellation
    Some people seem to be needing a crash course in debating and rethorics.

    Anyways, I want to commend lump and the rest of the gamingorb team for taking the time organising this. I hope the tournament will turn out a success.
  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    Hey guys!!


    Look here
    <a href='http://www.modNS.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=845&view=findpost&p=7769' target='_blank'>http://www.modNS.org/forums/index.php?show...findpost&p=7769</a>


    This plugin disables _special. So we can still use scripts but no fear of abusive _special ones (I.E. wiggle walk scripts)

    Is there any more argument nessesary?
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    OK, I just want to start off by saying that this is my last post on this subject since lump asked us all to do this in another thread (split thread? hint hint moderators).

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> well, so you are saying theyre not used for the same purpose?
    _special included scripts that spams +jump so you jump instantly when you hit the ground
    mousewheels with added pgups/downs to spam with one scroll to jump instantly when you hit the ground
    3jumpscripts to spam +jump trice to make it easier to time?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ive already stated that I dont like _special scripts so can you PLEASE stop using them as an argument?

    Furthermore, saying that the mousewheel makes you instantly jump when hitting the ground just shows me that youve actually never tried it (at least my mousewheel dont, I cant speak for others).

    Think of it this way: to bunnyhop perfect you need to jump with 1/100 second accurucy (if you have 100 fps), with a 3jumpscript that numbers sinks to 1/33 second, giving you a bigger margin to miss a jump by a millisecond or two.


    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->QUOTE
    zaiko, first of all my postcount has nothing do to with my skill or my knowledge. Thinking otherwise is just stupid.


    i'ts called irony<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ok, that added a lot to the discussion.


    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->for example bunnyhoping, instantly when you hit the ground you jump again

    another example, shooting with your pistol doing bursts, theyre more effective of lifeforms standing still or bigger ones in movement

    you disagree?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    A 3jumpscript does NOT jump automaticlly for you - you still need to time your jumps with about 1/3 of a second.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->hold a key to active and deactive is the same issue as having it 1/3 easier time to time when you hit the ground
    let's say you increase the ammout of spammed jumps into your script, wouldn't it be even easier?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    With a 3jumpscript you only press a key once, you cant hold it to activate/deactivate it.

    Just because you dont like scripts or find them unfair, sure, that's your opinion, but thinking that everyone should play like you do is just stupid - thats like saying that everyone should wear pink clothes because its the only colour that you like to wear. I totally accept that you dont want to use scripts, however I dont accept that you want everyone else not to.
  • hawthornehawthorne Join Date: 2003-10-05 Member: 21460Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mr.Ben+Oct 28 2004, 12:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr.Ben @ Oct 28 2004, 12:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This is what happens when you have amarc running your leagues rather than othell. Dammit i want to move to the US - LAND OF THE FREE! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    no more tea parties for mr ben??
  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
    edited October 2004
    Teaparties with this company? You'd have to tie me down to stop me from going!
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Oct 28 2004, 02:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 28 2004, 02:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey guys!!


    Look here
    <a href='http://www.modNS.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=845&view=findpost&p=7769' target='_blank'>http://www.modNS.org/forums/index.php?show...findpost&p=7769</a>


    This plugin disables _special. So we can still use scripts but no fear of abusive _special ones (I.E. wiggle walk scripts) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Exactly, so can you guys go kill another thread now?
  • rennexrennex Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2688Members
    Guys it takes incredible dexterity to roll a mousewheel properly, lay off it!
  • deeluvdeeluv Join Date: 2004-09-03 Member: 31257Members
    Hi,

    i am really very suprized to read this thread.

    LOL Gaming Org Nations Cup. LOL.

    All nations and lump you to know that we are working till over a month for a nations cup.
    We also post this on our board and on our news site for a month. Had allready contacted all nations and all nations have allready agreat.

    Really lol.
    If you want we can work together for this part or we get 2 nations cup at a time.
  • PoMiLoPoMiLo Join Date: 2003-12-30 Member: 24875Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-deeluv+Oct 29 2004, 04:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (deeluv @ Oct 29 2004, 04:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hi,

    i am really very suprized to read this thread.

    LOL Gaming Org Nations Cup. LOL.

    All nations and lump you to know that we are working till over a month for a nations cup.
    We also post this on our board and on our news site for a month. Had allready contacted all nations and all nations have allready agreat.

    Really lol.
    If you want we can work together for this part or we get 2 nations cup at a time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And is it like a 1 vs 1 co_ nationscup ?

    rofl.

    And telling all nations agreed is a lie.
  • deeluvdeeluv Join Date: 2004-09-03 Member: 31257Members
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-PoMiLo+Oct 29 2004, 05:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (PoMiLo @ Oct 29 2004, 05:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-deeluv+Oct 29 2004, 04:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (deeluv @ Oct 29 2004, 04:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hi,

    i am really very suprized to read this thread.

    LOL Gaming Org Nations Cup. LOL.

    All nations and lump you to know that we are working till over a month for a nations cup.
    We also post this on our board and on our news site for a month. Had allready contacted all nations and all nations have allready agreat.

    Really lol.
    If you want we can work together for this part or we get 2 nations cup at a time. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And is it like a 1 vs 1 co_ nationscup ?

    rofl.

    And telling all nations agreed is a lie. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    nominy for best joke of year

    which country dont know about it and which country tells that they dont play ??
    (at Euro2004 by ns-game)
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    we're talking about a WORLD ns_ cup here, not your EUROPEAN Challenger COMBAT 1v1 cup.
  • deeluvdeeluv Join Date: 2004-09-03 Member: 31257Members
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Oct 29 2004, 06:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Oct 29 2004, 06:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> we're talking about a WORLD ns_ cup here, not your EUROPEAN Challenger COMBAT 1v1 cup. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    how is talking about a co 1vs1 cup?

    and we are talking not about a world ns cup,
    we are talking about a euro ns nation cup
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    edited October 2004
    NS-Game ECC. Check your own website.


    edit: and we're talking about the gamingorb's cup, not yours.
  • deeluvdeeluv Join Date: 2004-09-03 Member: 31257Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Oct 29 2004, 06:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Oct 29 2004, 06:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NS-Game ECC. Check your own website.


    edit: and we're talking about the gamingorb's cup, not yours. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i think you are wake up for some minutes.

    If you can read, i post my opinion about gg´s nations cup.
    and if you can read, you will see that i didnt write anything about our co cup.
    so keep shhtt
  • LumpLump Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15558Members
    Deeluv

    I've had a Nations Cup in mind sinse i 1st spoke to ruffeh, Anderval and Tink about the GaminOrb Europian league, that was something like 5 months ago, one of them might have logs to prove it.

    Also i've been researching the idea's for the cup for the last 2/3 months. Please dont start the "we thought of it 1st idea" because that doesnt matter.

    If your wanting to make a Nations Cup to become popular and powerful in the NS Community then you're doing it for the wrong reason. Another NS Nations Cup Would be great and i'd support you but My Cup is for me and the GamingOrb team. I am keeping this limited to the companies and team i initially agree'd. Sorry but i dont need any more partner companies. Thanks for the offer anyway <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    also i'm not sure what this is supposed to mean "LOL Gaming Org Nations Cup. LOL."

    lump`
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