Does Ns Have What It Takes To Be #1?
Creamystew
Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7188Members
Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7188Members
<div class="IPBDescription">War of the mods....</div> Alright first off, I'll share some information with you people. My real alias is Jojoshua. I've been playing CS, Action, DoD, Firearms, Wasteland, ect.....under that for a long long time. Now I play NS, and from the first day I started playing I believed this mod was going to be #1 very soon. Its #3 or #2 now, im not sure, but it has a big leap to take over CS. Here is some info for each mod in my opinion.
CS: Its the #1 right now and I think its that way is because there was nothing else to play at the time. I played CS for years and years and its not very hard to play. I got to the point where killing the whole enemy team was just a repetive thing. Many of my friends and lots of other people can do this easily as well. So after years of this, CS gets so boring......so then after playing Action HL for a while before this, I went back to good ol' Action.
Action HL: Ok, I personally think this is the best FPS mod. Its a lot more interesting with stunts, ect .....and there are gibs.....oh how I love the gibs. It takes some real skill to be able to use the guns in that game and its to bad there are only a handful of servers, but oh well. I was playing that up until I found out about NS.
Firearms, DoD, Wasteland : These are some others I've played on LAN, some online, but they are just the same old FPS, just different models pretty much. They are the very low end of whats semi-good.
Now I come to NS......
NS: I started this after Action HL, and I was immediately impressed. It wasnt to hard to learn, I started playing as alien so it was a bit tougher, but I got it pretty good after a few maps. I was amazed at how much it really is a team game. All the other team games, CS, Action, ect......did not really need teamwork. Like I said before, one person can take out a whole team. Also, from playing games like Starcraft I was at home with the strategic elements you must think about in game and you cant win without both teamwork and strategy. Which is a very good challenge. I see lots of people from CS coming in being a "NSPLAYER" being a noob all over again, but they all love it still. Whatever reason they needed to leave CS, whether it be boredom, it being to easy, to repetitive, or just wanted to play something new......they found it in NS and im glad.
So there it is....from my view. I'm predicting NS being the #1 mod for a long long time.
What do you guys think? Can NS do it?
Jojo
CS: Its the #1 right now and I think its that way is because there was nothing else to play at the time. I played CS for years and years and its not very hard to play. I got to the point where killing the whole enemy team was just a repetive thing. Many of my friends and lots of other people can do this easily as well. So after years of this, CS gets so boring......so then after playing Action HL for a while before this, I went back to good ol' Action.
Action HL: Ok, I personally think this is the best FPS mod. Its a lot more interesting with stunts, ect .....and there are gibs.....oh how I love the gibs. It takes some real skill to be able to use the guns in that game and its to bad there are only a handful of servers, but oh well. I was playing that up until I found out about NS.
Firearms, DoD, Wasteland : These are some others I've played on LAN, some online, but they are just the same old FPS, just different models pretty much. They are the very low end of whats semi-good.
Now I come to NS......
NS: I started this after Action HL, and I was immediately impressed. It wasnt to hard to learn, I started playing as alien so it was a bit tougher, but I got it pretty good after a few maps. I was amazed at how much it really is a team game. All the other team games, CS, Action, ect......did not really need teamwork. Like I said before, one person can take out a whole team. Also, from playing games like Starcraft I was at home with the strategic elements you must think about in game and you cant win without both teamwork and strategy. Which is a very good challenge. I see lots of people from CS coming in being a "NSPLAYER" being a noob all over again, but they all love it still. Whatever reason they needed to leave CS, whether it be boredom, it being to easy, to repetitive, or just wanted to play something new......they found it in NS and im glad.
So there it is....from my view. I'm predicting NS being the #1 mod for a long long time.
What do you guys think? Can NS do it?
Jojo
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Some people prefer the mindless killing/non-teamplay aspects, so NS would not be for them. those kinds will gldly stick to CS.
CS has an average of 28,000 servers!
NS is a RTS while the other HL Mods are just a typical FPS.
What NS lacks in quantity(players?), it makes up for its quality. (unique type of gameplay?)
That's my '2 cents' I suppose?
I hope this doesn't sound too elitist.
The mainstream FPS game community just isn't smart enough, patient enough, or mature enough to make Natural Selection the number one mod. (Patience being the top reason)
I'm happy they didn't compromise Teamplay (Which will always involve a degree of smarts, patience and maturity) for the mainstream audience.
But for me NS is easily #1, hell if the developers had just developed its own engine and sell it comercialy, i would be convinced it would sell well, because of the new fresh ideas.
GOOD IDEAs don't come along everyday. I've seen enough bad games disguised in real-time shadows, ansiotropic lighting, environmental bump mapping and 64 bit textures to know that what looks good doesn't mean it plays good (*cough*UT2003 *cough*).
I think as gamers we gotta start giving the industry a freakin' clue.
Gameplay makes good games, graphics only make good distractions.
You can quote me on that.
Back in my place, one is able to see small boys of age 12 and below playing CS.
Yes. I am young. --- I'm 21 years old.
Yes. I am childish.
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Oh yea....I forgot to mention TFC. TFC is not bad, but not better than Action HL. The big problem with TFC is that it gets old when its its basically just snipers blowing off your head the second you step out of base. Another thing with most of the mods except Action is that you see a lot of cheaters.
You're **obscenity** kidding me, right.... you can't even put DoD and Firearms in the same category, let alone Wasteland.
Have you even played Dod? It ain't number 2 (or 3.. since YOU CANNOT FORGET TFC) for no reason.
Number 1: CS (Counter-Strike). It'll stay number one, no matter what you do. It's a good "counter-terrorism" game. Although the terrorism theme is only a nice foreground for what really is a deathmatch with real, nowadays armament. This used to be the "be all end all" FPS. Still a very very good game (if you haven't played it yet) but with each passing version, they seem to add as much good and bad to the game. This damn game has more people playing it then Unreal Tournament, Quake 2, Quake 3 (all versions), Unreal Tournament 2003, Battlefied 1942, and any other game you can think of, PUT TOGETHER!
Number 2: Sometimes DoD (Day of Defeat, World War II mod) and sometimes TFC (Team Fortress Classic). Or maybe Dod has established itself number 2 for good? I don't remember, been a while since I played. Both Day of Defeat and Team Fortress Classic are highly addictive, and they both do a FANTASTIC job. Dod is a realism based WWII game, that'll get you hook, and TFC is an Action team based game. I played (and still play) DoD since their 2nd beta, and I've played TFC for a good 3 years. Both of wich you'll never get tired of.
Number 3: TFC or Dod. See number two.
Number 4: Must be Natural Selection, but I'm not sure. As for this little gem, we'll be playing it for years to come <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I can see it come number 2 or 3, but not higher. The CS fan-base is simply too large and too dedicated (the core fanbase that is). With each patch and new release the dev team gives us, their fanbase will grow <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> .
I understand what you're saying about TFC. But in organized TFC, sniper is useless and not even seen during the match (unless there's a strict offensive strat that calls for it). If you want me to show you an example, I'll get a link to a demo so you can see what actual organized top clan TFC play is like. Let me get a link to some demos.
<a href='http://www.demogarage.com/download.php?demofile=vwellr2' target='_blank'>http://www.demogarage.com/download.php?dem...emofile=vwellr2</a>
Round 2 HLTV of same match:
<a href='http://www.demogarage.com/download.php?demofile=404r2' target='_blank'>http://www.demogarage.com/download.php?demofile=404r2</a>
Nx^ vs. |404| :::: Next Level vs. Clan |404| :::: Map = Cz2 (Canalzon 2)
<a href='http://www.demogarage.com/download.php?demofile=Nx404r2' target='_blank'>http://www.demogarage.com/download.php?dem...emofile=Nx404r2</a>
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Those are rather organized games of TFC. No snipers used, no annoying lame crap, just straight up clan play with actual strategies etc. Things may seem chaotic at times, but it's rather neat watching them. If you don't know how to play a demo tell me.
EDIT: I made sure I picked demos of which you'd have the maps for. You should all have TFC since it comes bundled with the HL patches.
I think that we'll soon start to see jumps in NSs community. I read PCGamer a lot, and they constantly showcase mods in their magazine, and include the mod on their demo discs. I'll bet once they get a hold of it, there'll be a serious jump in players. Things like that happen a lot, so I think that over time we'll see the community rise.
God, I hope not!
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The game will grow, peak and decline until it settles out at a steady position, probably at least at #4, and quite possible #2.
TFC matches are usually 8v8(Europe) or 9v9(NA).
Okay, start up TFC, and at the main menu, click console. In the console type in "playdemo demoname"
Then just watch. If you don't have the console thing to click at main menu add -console to the target line in the properties > target line of your shortcut icon or whatever. If you still need help, drop by #X_R on GamesNet and I'll help you more. My friend is digging up some TFC AVIs which are awesome.