It'll never pass CS. CS is just so much easier for someone to pick up and play. NS games just take TOO LONG for the average I-got-30-minutes-to-kill player. Jumping into a game that's already been going on for an hour or so isn't as much fun as starting a map from the beginning. Plus there's the learning curve required for the game. NS is a great MOD, but it's not for everyone.
Also, I find playing as a marine to be very boring compaired to playing as an alien. The marines are just too generic, there's no real fun in playing one. I think adding classes to the marines would be one way to spice up the marine side.
I consider HA another class of marines as well as jet pack. Nades and HMGs make each a subclass. That's my view on it. Most of the Loooooooonng good back and forth games I'm definately not bored. Cuz I never know when a freaking skulk will leap out at me. I've never been so edgey playing a game as I have when being a marine going against good aliens.
Lets see here. NS have a shot of taking over CS? Well, you all remember what happened when the XFL became a new football league. It went on for one season and died out. The NFL fan base was too strong that none of the fans wanted to convert their time over to the XFL even if there seasons were at different times in the year. I see this happening with NS, but then again I may be wrong.
<!--QuoteBegin--BigDXLT+Nov 11 2002, 12:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigDXLT @ Nov 11 2002, 12:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I consider HA another class of marines as well as jet pack. Nades and HMGs make each a subclass. That's my view on it. Most of the Loooooooonng good back and forth games I'm definately not bored. Cuz I never know when a freaking skulk will leap out at me. I've never been so edgey playing a game as I have when being a marine going against good aliens.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Those long back and forth games are fun, but only when I have the time to finish them <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->.
Still, aliens have different aliens you can evolve into, plus they all have their own unique abilities. Marines have a gun, they shoot it, they kill something, they die (Zzzzzzz...).
<!--QuoteBegin--saberx+Nov 11 2002, 06:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (saberx @ Nov 11 2002, 06:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Still, aliens have different aliens you can evolve into, plus they all have their own unique abilities. Marines have a gun, they shoot it, they kill something, they die (Zzzzzzz...).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The fun in playing marines, is, in my opinion, the joy of working as a team under a competent commander.. not always the case I know but the atmosphere would go to hell if the marines werent so vunerable.
Raining all hell down on the Kharaa is a great feeling when you acheive it as a team..
<!--QuoteBegin--saberx+Nov 11 2002, 01:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (saberx @ Nov 11 2002, 01:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--BigDXLT+Nov 11 2002, 12:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigDXLT @ Nov 11 2002, 12:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I consider HA another class of marines as well as jet pack. Nades and HMGs make each a subclass. That's my view on it. Most of the Loooooooonng good back and forth games I'm definately not bored. Cuz I never know when a freaking skulk will leap out at me. I've never been so edgey playing a game as I have when being a marine going against good aliens.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Those long back and forth games are fun, but only when I have the time to finish them <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->.
Still, aliens have different aliens you can evolve into, plus they all have their own unique abilities. Marines have a gun, they shoot it, they kill something, they die (Zzzzzzz...).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hey, but its more fun shooting at an alien running on walls than an other human like all the other mods right?
Natural Selection WILL make it to number ONE!!! CS is inferior, in almost every way, not to mention valve suckered MANY people into buying retail, while they could've gotten it for free DL on fileplanet. NS wont do this for a looooong time, as im sure Flay would torture valve with his glorious net-code <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
But seriously, i quit DoD becuase of racists, and kiddies. not to mention i couldn't get on their forums (damn! no free e-mail accounts allowed!!!) and was generally the same as FA. FA made my eyes hurt, team colors wern't team colors, and there was no team-play, despite promises. CS... well, thats obvious. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
i still play TFC, S&i, and Vampire Slayer (though somewhat dead <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ) for a break, but NS is the best game thus far i have played.
Visually. Acustically. Teamplay. Concept + Design. and other reasons.
Though, it DOES have its problems, mainly because of all the n00bs (sorry, but thats what they are. new players however, read stuff) that post "CHANGE TEH SEIGE!!!1", spam "HA + HMG", kick commander, trash buildings/recycle, and generally ruin it. clans often also hold "Perfect" weapons setups for the marine team; "HA AND HMG ONLY". taking 12 times longer to clear a hive than it would be to clear it with a BALLANCED team of weapons.
<!--QuoteBegin--Maveric+Nov 11 2002, 04:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Nov 11 2002, 04:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Natural Selection WILL make it to number ONE!!! CS is inferior, in almost every way, not to mention valve suckered MANY people into buying retail, while they could've gotten it for free DL on fileplanet. NS wont do this for a looooong time, as im sure Flay would torture valve with his glorious net-code <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
But seriously, i quit DoD becuase of racists, and kiddies. not to mention i couldn't get on their forums (damn! no free e-mail accounts allowed!!!) and was generally the same as FA. FA made my eyes hurt, team colors wern't team colors, and there was no team-play, despite promises. CS... well, thats obvious. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
i still play TFC, S&i, and Vampire Slayer (though somewhat dead <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ) for a break, but NS is the best game thus far i have played.
Visually. Acustically. Teamplay. Concept + Design. and other reasons.
Though, it DOES have its problems, mainly because of all the n00bs (sorry, but thats what they are. new players however, read stuff) that post "CHANGE TEH SEIGE!!!1", spam "HA + HMG", kick commander, trash buildings/recycle, and generally ruin it. clans often also hold "Perfect" weapons setups for the marine team; "HA AND HMG ONLY". taking 12 times longer to clear a hive than it would be to clear it with a BALLANCED team of weapons.
Damn comunity issues...
/rant<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Now thats the spirit <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
hope valve gives ns the same attention it gave cs... and flayra+gang earn some good money in the process, of course that's if flayra+gang wants to.
cs is big, it'll be hard to beat but it's possible.
cs is not inferior to ns. i hate cs-bashers who have no idea what they're talking abt. u can play cs for 2yrs or more and still be a noob. both mods require much skill and teamwork to play. cs-bashers never experienced cs at a competitive lvl, they'll never understand the teamwork involved. believe me, these same cs-bashers will soon enough bash ns too... for stuff the devs never do for them etc... they'll never be happy with any game. they should just quit gaming all together. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--hoju2+Nov 10 2002, 04:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (hoju2 @ Nov 10 2002, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I would like to add that at this time, 6:32 P.M. EST Sunday November 10, 2003 on Gamespy Arcade Counter Strike has 288 players and Natural Selection has 331 players. Victory is ours!!!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You were looking at the wrong counter strike.
Go to <a href='http://www.gamespy.com/stats' target='_blank'>http://www.gamespy.com/stats</a> and you will see two versions of counter strike. The version that never has less then 40,000 people playing is the real counter strike.
<!--QuoteBegin--fraggleroc+Nov 11 2002, 11:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (fraggleroc @ Nov 11 2002, 11:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->hope valve gives ns the same attention it gave cs... and flayra+gang earn some good money in the process, of course that's if flayra+gang wants to.
cs is big, it'll be hard to beat but it's possible.
cs is not inferior to ns. i hate cs-bashers who have no idea what they're talking abt. u can play cs for 2yrs or more and still be a noob. both mods require much skill and teamwork to play. cs-bashers never experienced cs at a competitive lvl, they'll never understand the teamwork involved. believe me, these same cs-bashers will soon enough bash ns too... for stuff the devs never do for them etc... they'll never be happy with any game. they should just quit gaming all together. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Do I sense pessimism?
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Also, I find playing as a marine to be very boring compaired to playing as an alien. The marines are just too generic, there's no real fun in playing one. I think adding classes to the marines would be one way to spice up the marine side.
Those long back and forth games are fun, but only when I have the time to finish them <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->.
Still, aliens have different aliens you can evolve into, plus they all have their own unique abilities. Marines have a gun, they shoot it, they kill something, they die (Zzzzzzz...).
LOL
The fun in playing marines, is, in my opinion, the joy of working as a team under a competent commander.. not always the case I know but the atmosphere would go to hell if the marines werent so vunerable.
Raining all hell down on the Kharaa is a great feeling when you acheive it as a team..
Those long back and forth games are fun, but only when I have the time to finish them <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->.
Still, aliens have different aliens you can evolve into, plus they all have their own unique abilities. Marines have a gun, they shoot it, they kill something, they die (Zzzzzzz...).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey, but its more fun shooting at an alien running on walls than an other human like all the other mods right?
But seriously, i quit DoD becuase of racists, and kiddies. not to mention i couldn't get on their forums (damn! no free e-mail accounts allowed!!!) and was generally the same as FA. FA made my eyes hurt, team colors wern't team colors, and there was no team-play, despite promises. CS... well, thats obvious. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
i still play TFC, S&i, and Vampire Slayer (though somewhat dead <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ) for a break, but NS is the best game thus far i have played.
Visually.
Acustically.
Teamplay.
Concept + Design.
and other reasons.
Though, it DOES have its problems, mainly because of all the n00bs (sorry, but thats what they are. new players however, read stuff) that post "CHANGE TEH SEIGE!!!1", spam "HA + HMG", kick commander, trash buildings/recycle, and generally ruin it. clans often also hold "Perfect" weapons setups for the marine team; "HA AND HMG ONLY". taking 12 times longer to clear a hive than it would be to clear it with a BALLANCED team of weapons.
Damn comunity issues...
/rant
But seriously, i quit DoD becuase of racists, and kiddies. not to mention i couldn't get on their forums (damn! no free e-mail accounts allowed!!!) and was generally the same as FA. FA made my eyes hurt, team colors wern't team colors, and there was no team-play, despite promises. CS... well, thats obvious. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
i still play TFC, S&i, and Vampire Slayer (though somewhat dead <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ) for a break, but NS is the best game thus far i have played.
Visually.
Acustically.
Teamplay.
Concept + Design.
and other reasons.
Though, it DOES have its problems, mainly because of all the n00bs (sorry, but thats what they are. new players however, read stuff) that post "CHANGE TEH SEIGE!!!1", spam "HA + HMG", kick commander, trash buildings/recycle, and generally ruin it. clans often also hold "Perfect" weapons setups for the marine team; "HA AND HMG ONLY". taking 12 times longer to clear a hive than it would be to clear it with a BALLANCED team of weapons.
Damn comunity issues...
/rant<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now thats the spirit <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
cs is big, it'll be hard to beat but it's possible.
cs is not inferior to ns. i hate cs-bashers who have no idea what they're talking abt. u can play cs for 2yrs or more and still be a noob. both mods require much skill and teamwork to play. cs-bashers never experienced cs at a competitive lvl, they'll never understand the teamwork involved. believe me, these same cs-bashers will soon enough bash ns too... for stuff the devs never do for them etc... they'll never be happy with any game. they should just quit gaming all together. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
You were looking at the wrong counter strike.
Go to <a href='http://www.gamespy.com/stats' target='_blank'>http://www.gamespy.com/stats</a> and you will see two versions of counter strike. The version that never has less then 40,000 people playing is the real counter strike.
cs is big, it'll be hard to beat but it's possible.
cs is not inferior to ns. i hate cs-bashers who have no idea what they're talking abt. u can play cs for 2yrs or more and still be a noob. both mods require much skill and teamwork to play. cs-bashers never experienced cs at a competitive lvl, they'll never understand the teamwork involved. believe me, these same cs-bashers will soon enough bash ns too... for stuff the devs never do for them etc... they'll never be happy with any game. they should just quit gaming all together. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Do I sense pessimism?