Detail Textures for NS?

brute_force · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thantos @ Jul 27 2004, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Hm? Do you mean it's complicated to search for the program </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

wally  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
A quick 30 second google took me here: <a href='http://www.telefragged.com/wally/' target='_blank'>http://www.telefragged.com/wally/</a> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Thantos · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (brute_force @ Jul 27 2004, 10:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thantos @ Jul 27 2004, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Hm? Do you mean it's complicated to search for the program </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

wally </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
A quick 30 second google took me here: <a href='http://www.telefragged.com/wally/' target='_blank'>http://www.telefragged.com/wally/</a> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
i mean i have that already.

brute_force · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thantos @ Jul 27 2004, 06:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (brute_force @ Jul 27 2004, 10:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thantos @ Jul 27 2004, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Hm? Do you mean it's complicated to search for the program </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

wally </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
A quick 30 second google took me here: <a href='http://www.telefragged.com/wally/' target='_blank'>http://www.telefragged.com/wally/</a> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
i mean i have that already.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Umm... okay... so what do you mean with complicated? It's not very hard to look through the wad.

Thantos · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (brute_force @ Jul 27 2004, 12:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thantos @ Jul 27 2004, 06:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (brute_force @ Jul 27 2004, 10:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thantos @ Jul 27 2004, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Hm? Do you mean it's complicated to search for the program </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

wally </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
A quick 30 second google took me here: <a href='http://www.telefragged.com/wally/' target='_blank'>http://www.telefragged.com/wally/</a> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
i mean i have that already. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Umm... okay... so what do you mean with complicated? It's not very hard to look through the wad.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
would be easier if that impulse 107 would work thought

Cutedge · July 2004

Sorry, I'm mistaken. impulse 107 does <b>not</b> work in NS.

As far as I know, Soylent just did it the hard way, by loading up wally and looking at the WAD files. You can use that, or you can use Hammer to open the WADs and then search for the appropriate textures.

Soylent_green · August 2004

You can just drop the relevant folders in your valve dir and go zooming around the map with noclip in regular HLDM. It's alot easier using impulse 107 than doing what I originally did(decompile the map and look at the names of included textures to figure out what the once I don't see in the regular NS, NS2 and HL wads where called <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />).

davidcmc · August 2004

WTH, when I type r_detailtextures 1 on console it says "Unknown Command", anyone know whats going on?

brute_force · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (davidcmc @ Aug 14 2004, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> WTH, when I type r_detailtextures 1 on console it says "Unknown Command", anyone know whats going on?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Your GFX card probably doesn't support it.

davidcmc · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (brute_force @ Aug 13 2004, 06:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (davidcmc @ Aug 14 2004, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> WTH, when I type r_detailtextures 1 on console it says "Unknown Command", anyone know whats going on? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Your GFX card probably doesn't support it. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
gf4 mx440 8x

I dont belive its the card, in the readme.txt it says that even a Radedon 7000 can run it.....

Thaldarin · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (davidcmc @ Aug 14 2004, 09:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (brute_force @ Aug 13 2004, 06:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (davidcmc @ Aug 14 2004, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> WTH, when I type r_detailtextures 1 on console it says "Unknown Command", anyone know whats going on? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Your GFX card probably doesn't support it. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
gf4 mx440 8x

I dont belive its the card, in the readme.txt it says that even a Radedon 7000 can run it.....  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
In the NS Command line force your card up to the latest version of DX you have, Example: -dxlevel 90

Thats because I have DX 9 installed, shouldn't have a problem there on, also helps if you got CS:Source because it can boost your FPS on that aswell as allow you access to detailtextures.

Sizer · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Aug 24 2004, 10:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (davidcmc @ Aug 14 2004, 09:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (brute_force @ Aug 13 2004, 06:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (davidcmc @ Aug 14 2004, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> WTH, when I type r_detailtextures 1 on console it says "Unknown Command", anyone know whats going on? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Your GFX card probably doesn't support it. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
gf4 mx440 8x

I dont belive its the card, in the readme.txt it says that even a Radedon 7000 can run it..... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
In the NS Command line force your card up to the latest version of DX you have, Example: -dxlevel 90

Thats because I have DX 9 installed, shouldn't have a problem there on, also helps if you got CS:Source because it can boost your FPS on that aswell as allow you access to detailtextures.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
That won't do jack

The card itself must be dx9 compatible~ having dx9 installed in windows will not make a difference

Thaldarin · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sizer @ Aug 24 2004, 06:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Aug 24 2004, 10:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (davidcmc @ Aug 14 2004, 09:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (brute_force @ Aug 13 2004, 06:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (davidcmc @ Aug 14 2004, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> WTH, when I type r_detailtextures 1 on console it says "Unknown Command", anyone know whats going on? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Your GFX card probably doesn't support it. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
gf4 mx440 8x

I dont belive its the card, in the readme.txt it says that even a Radedon 7000 can run it..... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
In the NS Command line force your card up to the latest version of DX you have, Example: -dxlevel 90

Thats because I have DX 9 installed, shouldn't have a problem there on, also helps if you got CS:Source because it can boost your FPS on that aswell as allow you access to detailtextures. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
That won't do jack

The card itself must be dx9 compatible~ having dx9 installed in windows will not make a difference  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
My Radeon 9200 originally said DX Level 8.1 on CS:S settings. When forcing in to DX 9.0 it gave me better FPS, so I have proof.

Sizer · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Aug 24 2004, 02:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sizer @ Aug 24 2004, 06:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Aug 24 2004, 10:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (davidcmc @ Aug 14 2004, 09:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (brute_force @ Aug 13 2004, 06:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (davidcmc @ Aug 14 2004, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> WTH, when I type r_detailtextures 1 on console it says "Unknown Command", anyone know whats going on? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Your GFX card probably doesn't support it. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
gf4 mx440 8x

I dont belive its the card, in the readme.txt it says that even a Radedon 7000 can run it..... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
In the NS Command line force your card up to the latest version of DX you have, Example: -dxlevel 90

Thats because I have DX 9 installed, shouldn't have a problem there on, also helps if you got CS:Source because it can boost your FPS on that aswell as allow you access to detailtextures. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
That won't do jack

The card itself must be dx9 compatible~ having dx9 installed in windows will not make a difference </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
My Radeon 9200 originally said DX Level 8.1 on CS:S settings. When forcing in to DX 9.0 it gave me better FPS, so I have proof.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
9200, is, IIRC, truly dx9 compliant

My Gf4MX will only go display detailed textures if I use rivatuner to force nv40 emulation, and guess what that does? It slaughters my performance and I get sub .1 fps. That is the ONLY way to view detailed textures on cards that can't see them otherwise.

Kester · August 2004

i personally dont see much point in detail textures, im not out to look at the textures and it's usually off puting as only some of the textures in a map have detail textures for them, so some are high detail and some look plain, it just distracts the eye

Cutedge · September 2004

Ok I have a question.

In server changes of b5, it says
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>O Locked r_detailedtextures to 0 to prevent exploits.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Is that for the server only or does that mean no one can now use detail textures?

Cutedge · September 2004

As of Beta 5, there is no detail texture usage. Apparently people were using them to screw up cloaking so they could see aliens at all times and other things like that. I wasn't aware you could apply detail textures to models, but whatcha going to do.

Soylent, you did good work. It was fun and nice looking while it lasted.

Marik_Steele · September 2004

Don't feel too discouraged, guys. Voogru has recognized that we all love good graphics. To quote from <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=79528' target='_blank'>here</a>:

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (voogru)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Sep 4 2004, 03:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> So why can't you lock it together with mp_consistency, like I suggested? mp_consistency is for the same reason, right? Like bright white boxes instead of skulks? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
That could possibly be done, but the issue is simple, we wanted beta 5 to be released sometime before the second coming.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

If it's possible to code, Voogru will most likely try it -- it's just not in 3.0b5

Detail Textures for NS?

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