A Fade In The Park (2)

OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
edited September 2004 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Costume in progress</div> I did a thread about a "fade in the park" before, asking about copyright permission and thinking about if its even realisable without looking to ugly or misplaced to
<b><span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>walk around as Fade at Halloween in an amusement park</span></b>.
Now im sure its realisable, not too misplaced/ugly and the costume is in progress.

The mayor problems with a Fade costume for Halloween are still:
- Halloween in germany is only celebrated in (american) amusement parks and sometimes as private party just to have a theme, its no big thing in germany, 80% of all ppl here dont care about haloween.
- Fades in amusement parks at halloween, no hive ~100 zombies and undead, >1000 visitors. Nobody will know NS there, im just "one kind of alien monster" for all of them.
- "Blinking" and slaying in real life in the dark for 6 hours without getting exhausted, costume must be warm, weather resistant but as light as possible.
- The price of the costume, wages are low, its just for fun.
- The quality of the costume, dont want to look like a 12 year old turtle. it also sould look like biologic "green-red"-infestation and not like jeans.
- The Fades horse legs, do humanoid-biped fades look ugly?
- The Fades long head, how to build, how to keep from falling over.
- The Fades back "pipe" including acidrocket.
- The Fades teeth, spikes and legs.

What happened since last halloween:
- Opened <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=51210&hl=fade+in+the+park' target='_blank'>thread</a>, thinking about a fade in the park.
- Got flayras permission to make me a fade costume and getting payed for walking around as fade, basically.
- collected some "usefull waste" for a fade costume for about some months; coat-hangers, styrofoam, old carpets, plastic lamps and thin iron bars .
- nailed old shoes on short thick wooden planks and tried to walk with "fade legs". Could only stand for 1 second, not walk without risking big pain and broken legs. Need to solve the "fade legs" problem later.
- changed the fade model into a human biped and a shorter head with 3dsmax to test how ugly (or how much worse) it looks.
- srearching cheap masks to buy, <a href='http://www.deathstudios.com/alien_puppet.htm' target='_blank'>this one</a> came really close, others were less expensive. Decided not to buy any of them and try to make my own out of an old helmet, some iron wires, old furs and a lot of duct tape.
- playing around with "unfold tenkai" a program that unfolds 3d models to printable skinmeshes to make real models out of paper: This did not help the costume but helps skinmeshing models.
- Signed a contract to work as a "<a href='http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/halloween_2003b.jpg' target='_blank'>Halloween Character</a>" (that was me last year) in "<a href='http://www.movieworld.de/movieworld/parkinfo/acces/index_de.cfm' target='_blank'>Warner Brothers Movie World,</a> <a href='http://www.meinestadt.de/x/map.php/x=11/y=51' target='_blank'>Germany</a>" every Friday, Saturday and the whole last week of Oktober 2004.
- Bought some basic black oversized clothes and some stuff to start working with.
- Sawed old platic lamps into Fade-sheds.
- Bend the thin iron bars into a fade head, temporarily hold together with duct tape. The head is 1:1 (like ingame) a little stretchy and maybe a little too big. I have not thought that it would be that easy to make such a long stable head and not to heavy to wear. Later I will be able to look trough the open mouth, the eyes and the sides of the mask. Its being hold only by my mouth, head and neck.
- coat hangers make great arm claws, styrofoam makes good theeth.
- The biggest problem will be the legs and feed, they need to look like Fade-feed, need to be weather resistant and able to run with them like a Fade for a long time (same for the head).

Ill post some photos of the fade costume in progress for the next days.
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Comments

  • StoatBringerStoatBringer Join Date: 2003-06-09 Member: 17144Members, Constellation
    You're not a closet Furry, are you? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    edited September 2004
    duh, i mixed words and typed "fur" gib mistake, no animals dies for that....
    The costume will be made out of 50% polyester and 50% "Waste" and im gonna swim in FILM blood.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    I cant wait to see it on <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RabidWeaselRabidWeasel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5337Members
    Sounds interesting <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ModChaosControlModChaosControl HiveMind NS bot creator Join Date: 2004-03-31 Member: 27613Members
    <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ModChaosControlModChaosControl HiveMind NS bot creator Join Date: 2004-03-31 Member: 27613Members
    <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo--> DOH!
  • Swift_IdiotSwift_Idiot Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11883Members
    What I wouldn't give to see a fade slash up some fursuit parades. -_-;

    ps ollj u r weird
  • Omega_DeathOmega_Death Sith apprentice to a box of Cereal Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19042Members
    At that deathstudios website you can buy a prop called the maggot puppet that would be excellent for the acid rocket tube on the fade's shoulder if you would wrap it in a black fabric, IMO.
  • rabbityrabbity Join Date: 2003-07-02 Member: 17866Members
    i think the fade's horse legs would be the hardest to construct or rather, figure out how to put it on :o
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    You are my hero. I will require screenshots. Then, I will require your home address so I can steal your costume.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    yeah Ollj isnt normal, if you didnt think this you obviously havent heard "Aquahive- Im a little gorge" (which I currently host for those who dare crosses the boundaries of good taste and homosapiens). This fade costume still isnt complete? :< as for the fade legs, cant you just approximate it? :S

    like have the fade legs as they are normally and have your leg slightly outside the costume behind it (the fade is practically all black, surely a camouflaged leg wont be too noticable or out of place :S doesnt a fade keep its legs tucked together when it blinks? (i forget :S)
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    Oh btw forgot to add.
    WALKERFADE FTW!
  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    All I can say is we better get pictures.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    "We"?

    Although I expect that means you have no problems with copyrights etc. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    You ought to get someone you know to be in a marine costume. Then you could chase him over the neighbourhood
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    You could use that papercraft decompiler thing to make a fully 3d papercraft fade.


    I'm sure someone's bound to do it with the marine weapons.
  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Alkiller+Sep 1 2004, 09:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Alkiller @ Sep 1 2004, 09:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You are my hero. I will require <b>screenshots</b>. Then, I will require your home address so I can steal your costume.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    In the real world, we call them <i>photographs</i>. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • kolokolkolokol Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9166Members
    ROFL <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • EydeEyde Join Date: 2004-08-25 Member: 30875Members
    good luck Ollj. make sure to send some pictures.
  • explodingheadboyexplodingheadboy Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15636Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Alkiller+Sep 1 2004, 10:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Alkiller @ Sep 1 2004, 10:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You are my hero. I will require screenshots. Then, I will require your home address so I can steal your costume. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you can find me some screenshots of real life... I will personally travel to your door and deliver a cookie.
  • FieariFieari Join Date: 2002-10-22 Member: 1566Members, Constellation
    How on earth do you plan to do the leg thingy? In fact, how did you do it before, the one that you said hurt to use?
  • semipsychoticsemipsychotic Join Date: 2003-07-09 Member: 18061Members
    Well, if Ollj <i>really</i> has a lot of time on his hands, he can engineer the chicken legs so that the lower half is actually a stilt, connected to his shoe by a hinge in the knee.

    Fades are about 8 feet tall after all, so this could account for some of that height. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    First pictures tomorrow, but not much done yet, it will just prove that the big head of the fade will look good and work.

    Thought about aproximating fade legs a lot, its basically the biggest problem.
    I think I will just walk on my toetips with big "fade feeds" connected to them and attatch some big styrofoam muscles to my lower leg to make my feet into a 3rd leg bone.
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Sep 2 2004, 02:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Sep 2 2004, 02:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Alkiller+Sep 1 2004, 09:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Alkiller @ Sep 1 2004, 09:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You are my hero. I will require <b>screenshots</b>. Then, I will require your home address so I can steal your costume.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    In the real world, we call them <i>photographs</i>. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...

    Damn you.
  • UzguzUzguz Join Date: 2003-06-05 Member: 17016Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-ZiGGY^+Sep 2 2004, 09:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY^ @ Sep 2 2004, 09:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->doesnt a fade keep its legs tucked together when it blinks? (i forget :S)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Only if it crouches <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    edited September 2004
    photos:
    not much to see, the head is slightly hanging down (only one wire in the back holding it all for now), its the "texture" and accesuires that make it good.
    The head is longer than an arm.

    <img src='http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/fade/ollj1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    <a href='http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/fade/ollj1b.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/fade/ollj1b.jpg</a>
    <a href='http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/fade/ollj2.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/fade/ollj2.jpg</a>
    <a href='http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/fade/ollj2b.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/fade/ollj2b.jpg</a>
    <a href='http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/fade/ollj3.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/fade/ollj3.jpg</a>
    <a href='http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/fade/ollj3b.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/fade/ollj3b.jpg</a>

    it can only get better <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    time so stabilize and texture it.
  • Raistlin6Raistlin6 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4420Members
    edited September 2004
    What you work in Germany ??
    If you ever come to Cologne you have to visit me.
    I always wanted to know some famous NS Persons in real life <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    By the Way the Pics looks good <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    LOL. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-AlienCow!+Sep 3 2004, 01:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AlienCow! @ Sep 3 2004, 01:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> LOL. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    EDIT: Two posts...for so much laughter.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Quoted for emphasis
  • todd1Oktodd1Ok Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28018Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    I have been thinking about your fade leg's problem, and i have come up with a solution. basically put, why does the fade have to be man sized? yes, it is round abouts the same size as a marine in NS, however, adapting the fade model is unfeasable to be worn. (misshapen legs, diffuculty of movement)

    why not make it larger? it would eliminate the need to adapt it to your body shape. sinply make the costume to sit atop your shoulders, or to attach to your waste. if you were wearing all black clothing you would be harder to see. the claws could be moved by sticks, painted black and held in your hands. the fade leg's could be attached to your own, so when you walk, as does the fade. also, this would mean you dont have to walk around with a mask on all day. below is a very crude image of something like what i mean. if you dont understand what i mean ill try and dig up a better example later.
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