Server Time For Newbies Only

CowieCowie Join Date: 2004-05-07 Member: 28530Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Any interest?</div>I'm one of the admins at a server, and I'm floating the idea of a "Newbie Night" every week or so, and want to know what kind of interest people might have in this.

It'd basically consist of every week or so, the server would set aside a few hours in a night where only newbies, plus an admin, and a couple of regulars (tops 2-3) would be allowed on the server. The air would be of a newbie v newbie, with the admin/reg's showing them the ropes as the games went along. Players could get practice at comming, learn why the alien game is so different from the marine game, how to fly mr lerk, just get a good grasp of the basics of the game. It'd be more of a fun atmosphere than a 'training' one, and people could learn through games, filled with players that are about their caliber, so that instead of the learn'ed cursing at them for onos-whoring, the other team might be slow enough to react to their mistakes, that the game would continue on.

Well, would any of the new players be interested in this?


ps- if this were to get off the ground, the thought's been floating around to even hold newbie-only tourneys, etc. just thoughts tho ;p

Comments

  • incinaratorincinarator Join Date: 2003-06-16 Member: 17418Awaiting Authorization
    This could be interesting, great idea though. I will gladly help out with anything i can if needed. If we do get enough ppl to come and play that want to learn this can be a great experience.

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ChurchChurch Meatshield grunt-fodder // Has pre-ordered NS2 Join Date: 2002-12-31 Member: 11646Members, Constellation
    I like this idea. What's your server?
  • WebbieWebbie Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24769Members
    edited May 2004
    What? You're not familiar with the cow and the duck of death?! <img src='http://www.cyberica.ca/personal/james/dsmile/cool.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    I thought our fame was intergalactic! <img src='http://www.cyberica.ca/personal/james/dsmile/cool.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    Server is <b>Awesome PnB's NS 3.0b4a FF</b>, site is <a href='http://gamesplace.net' target='_blank'>gamesplace.net</a>. <img src='http://www.cyberica.ca/personal/james/dsmile/cool.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • CowieCowie Join Date: 2004-05-07 Member: 28530Members
    Just opened a forum thread specifically for this project.

    Its not yet begun, we're hoping to start it within a week or so.

    go to:
    <a href='http://www.gamesplace.net/forums' target='_blank'>PnB/Gamesplace forums</a>

    to check it out. its under general discussion.

    We'll undoubtably ask for help teaching, but for right now we're more interested in the new folk who want to try this idea out.

    Unfortunately, its rare that new people check out forums, even those set up for new folk, so if anyone sees people who arent too proud to declare themselves newbified, point em to this thread, or gamesplace.net.

    As for wanting to help out, come join the gamesplace.net forums and post in that thread anyway i suppose, and we'll let you know when ya can help <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ThrillhouseThrillhouse Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3178Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Webbie+May 11 2004, 08:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Webbie @ May 11 2004, 08:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What? You're not familiar with the cow and the duck of death?! <img src='http://www.cyberica.ca/personal/james/dsmile/cool.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    I thought our fame was intergalactic! <img src='http://www.cyberica.ca/personal/james/dsmile/cool.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    Server is <b>Awesome PnB's NS 3.0b4a FF</b>, site is <a href='http://gamesplace.net' target='_blank'>gamesplace.net</a>. <img src='http://www.cyberica.ca/personal/james/dsmile/cool.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Damnit webbie, we have to put up with those damned smilies at PnBs forum, you dont need to use them here.

    And you filthy server ****
  • WebbieWebbie Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24769Members
    <img src='http://www.cyberica.ca/personal/james/dsmile/grin.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    Heh lol at those posts above mine <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    But the idea is nice, perhaps make it so on all pubs, just a few hours, and make a message when they enter like "Its n00b time now! - Learn and be learned!"
  • CrazySailorCrazySailor Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28510Members
    I'm interested, but I need to know where the server location is in order for me to find out whether I can join the server or not. If it is close enough to where I live, I will play there as much as possible! (Hopefully I won't become a part of the Noob Slayers)
  • CowieCowie Join Date: 2004-05-07 Member: 28530Members
    Server is located in the San Francisco area of California, US.

    official website:
    <a href='http://www.gamesplace.net' target='_blank'>www.gamesplace.net</a>
  • WirheWirhe Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17610Members
    Vet or no, I'm still a n000b, can I come too? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CEldinCEldin Join Date: 2002-09-16 Member: 1323Members
    Great idea but with one fundamental flaw in it; true newbies will not be checking server forums, these forums or any IRC channel to find a slot of time where they will be able to improve themselves.

    You'll prolly get some medium level gamers and have a great time though so I suggest renaming it or something.
  • CowieCowie Join Date: 2004-05-07 Member: 28530Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Stung256+May 12 2004, 06:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stung256 @ May 12 2004, 06:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Great idea but with one fundamental flaw in it; true newbies will not be checking server forums, these forums or any IRC channel to find a slot of time where they will be able to improve themselves. 
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    Mentioned it above lol.

    The interest, and I admit this is probably not the proper channel to get the true newbs through, has been very small. Perhaps we'll just adjust it to a 'Learn you some basic strats' to try to up the games of some of the lesser players that know how to play, yet arent sure why they always get yelled at in pubs.

    More detailed shiz would be taught here. Map strats/locations, reasonings behind weapon choices/chamber choices, comming, just stuff to basically get the ball rolling in their mind so they can return to pubs and play alongside the better players. Even try a pug once in awhile. ;p


    If newbienight falls through, and i think it will, would anyone be interested in THAT?
  • TsungfaiTsungfai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11454Members
    I would be interested in helping out. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ThrillhouseThrillhouse Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3178Members, Constellation
    Pfft, what could a 56ker do Tsung?


    Lag?
  • Walking_TargetWalking_Target Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22552Members
    ^^ willing helper, if it helps pubilic players make fewer mistakes and helps them undertand clans im willing to give it a go.

    And what is it about being 56k that gets me ridculed, untill i beat half the servers players that is which either gets me cautioned from a admin or gj from my team mates. 56k players are possibly some of the best players BUT (and this is a big but) they are limited by ping / lag problems that all 56ker experiance, the new netcode has made it easier but still the problems percist.

    Example 400 ping server : -
    I have to get a Sg to shoot aything or if i do manage to kill anything with a lmg it usually dies after i have from my lmg shots.

    Anyway ill probably come past the server and am willing to help
  • CrazySailorCrazySailor Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28510Members
    I can try to play, but with about 100-400 ping, as I'm on the other side of the ocean. Ah well, I'll be back in 'Frisco/West Coast area during my Uni years.
  • v4rAv4rA Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23672Members, Constellation
    i can help with this, im the most of the time avaliable, so you can pm me ( vara^ on quakenet) for help with the teaching ^^.

    I hope this helps pubs players
  • CowieCowie Join Date: 2004-05-07 Member: 28530Members
    well we've a boatload of assistants it would seem

    but no one to help <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    perhaps we'll just set up the first night, publicize it for a week and see who shows up. people might be too lazy/shy to post in here?
  • DerangedDeranged Join Date: 2004-04-07 Member: 27774Members
    I'm still somewhat of a newb wouldn't mind learning to comm somewhere where you don't get yelled at <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    great idea!
  • TsungfaiTsungfai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11454Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thrillhouse+May 13 2004, 02:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thrillhouse @ May 13 2004, 02:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Pfft, what could a 56ker do Tsung?


    Lag? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    LOL! This lagger can do more and you know it Thrill.
  • ChantyChanty Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8950Members
    edited May 2004
    i get good ping at pnb ^_^ (ninja skulk here)
    me and aaron can prolly come help out

    msg me if you want me
  • FooKerFooKer Join Date: 2003-07-31 Member: 18622Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Well, if you need any more help, just PM me. I'll galdly help out anytime I can.
  • CowieCowie Join Date: 2004-05-07 Member: 28530Members
    Ok, we're going to just go ahead and hold the first newbie night.

    It's going to be next thursday, the 27th of may, at 8pm PST on
    Awesome PnB's NS 3.0b4a IP: 64.62.138.224:27025

    If you're a newb, please join. If you know any newbs, think you have any friends who want to learn NS but are scared off by the big bad vets ;p, want to try commanding (tho we're obviously not going to get to too many of those), or whatever, stop by the server.

    For this first night at least, we won't need any extra helpers beyond those at gamesplace.net, so please don't join to teach, as great as it is that so many of you want to. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> Instead, wait and I'll report in here how well/crapilicious this first night went, and we'll go from there as to adding more helpers, finding people who have better specific knowledge in certain areas (com, etc) and whatnot.

    Again, if you, or anyone you know and love might suffer from n00bitis, join
    Awesome PnB's NS 3.0b4a IP: 64.62.138.224:27025
    at 8pm PST, on Thursday May 27.

    w0.
  • CowieCowie Join Date: 2004-05-07 Member: 28530Members
    Ok. to put this back on top...


    Newbie night is TONIGHT!

    8pm PST, at "Awesome PnB's NS 3.0b4a", IP: 64.62.138.224:27025

    There will be two admins and two regs on hand to help the other 14 newbies learn the basics and beyond.

    For those of you who didnt get a chance to see this before and are too lazy to scroll up:

    Newbie night is an 'all newb' learning environment put on by this server. We will hold a couple of hours in which only newbs and trainers will be allowed on the server. (we have the trainers for this session already thanks to anyone who wished to help, we might use you later if this actually catches on)

    The environment will be one of fun and learning. You will learn by doing in a freeform gameplay way. First basics will be dealt with, then as the group learns as a whole, we will move on to more specific tips and tactics. In addition to general training, there will be a lot of one-on-one questions and answers.

    This is not meant to in one night train someone to be CAL UGL ready, but it is meant to let these new people, who get such a bad ribbing on the majority of NS servers by most of the regs, learn why they get so maligned and what to do to fix it.

    Please, if you or anyone you know is a newb, invite them to come. You don't need to stay the full time, of course.

    In the (hopefully not) unlikely event that this night is a success and filled all night long, if youre interested, keep an eye on this thread, or on the forums at www.gamesplace.net <- homepage for the server, for information on when the next newbie night will be.

    -Cowie
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    it's a good idea.. don't get me wrong - i think it's a damn good idea

    and obviously the only way of seeing if it will work or not is by trying it, but a few things spring to mind.

    the game will collapse with teams of beginners... so don't expect 'smooth' gameplay of any nature <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    getting too many beginners will be mayhem as there there is only so many you can talk to at once, but not enough means you can't actually play a half decent game

    umm.. there were more, but i forget
    if i was in america, i'd come along and help, but i'd be sitting on a 300+ ping from Britain, so probably not the best idea <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    some thing to consider if this takes off would be to coordinate it with the guides program... (by coordinate i don't mean 'give it to them' - i mean they could publicise it etc etc)
  • CrazySailorCrazySailor Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28510Members
    ill be back in the states for part of summer, so i can try to hook up w/ my uncles comp and join! prob is i dont have a headset+mike so i get fragged a lot when im entering a text message...btw, is spawn camping/rushing allowed? just wondering...
  • Cousinit1686Cousinit1686 Join Date: 2004-05-29 Member: 28985Members
    If you guys are going to hold another 'newbie night' then please post, i unfortunately didnt check in time <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • JerunkJerunk Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9659Members
    it's newbie night every night at the =]DV[= server.
  • DefianceDefiance Join Date: 2003-12-01 Member: 23847Members
    edited May 2004
    If you have the time and patience, go for it. It's a good idea, if things work out right, the newbie level will decrease and the 1337 level will increase, thus, making the community better.

    And ya, don't go to the server ^, then ban people who are better then the admins, pretty weak stuff.

    I'd help you out, but I'm not playing NS until the final version of 3.0 is released.
  • LegsLegs Join Date: 2004-06-02 Member: 29071Members
    I just started playing ns yesterday and I'm loving it. Would love to come on ur server and try to learn to be a commander, if someone could only help me to set up the base. Like what to build first, how to order ur teammates around. Also help me to get kills with the goddam Aliens <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Let me know when the next newbie night is and I'll definetivly try and be there.
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