Radeon 9800 Or Geforce 6800le

OrganoXOrganoX Join Date: 2004-03-21 Member: 27473Members
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Im going for a new grafic card, and i need some advice by those who have one of those cards.
First i was going for a Radeon 9800 PRO 128mb but i have changed my mind and thinking of Geforce 6800LE 128mb.

A Radeon card cost me around 165$ / 137£
A Geforce 6800LE cost me around 204$ / 168£

By the way, i heard Geforce 6800LE is quite better then a Radeon 9800 128mb card, Shaders etc.
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    edited June 2005
    Here you go organoX... 6600GT OCs ftw.

    <a href='http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=GO&Range=1&InnerCata=48&bop=and&description=geforce+6600&srchInDesc=agp' target='_blank'> New Egg </a>

    Same price, faster clock speed, same memory.
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  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    The radeon 9800 is a generation behind.

    It <i>may</i> get half the performance that the 6800le would get.

    I also reccomend the 6600GT, since you obviously don't have a PCI-Express system.
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  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    i got radeon 9800 pro

    and while its good and stuff just no, its **** mine kept making dots everywhere it was teerible
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  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    Spec wise, they're fairly identical so I'd go with whichever is cheaper.
    However, the 6600GT has slightly higher specs for a comperable price.

    If you're not into sitting around running benchmark programs, I don't think you'll see dramatic differences anyway.
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    edited June 2005
    Slightly higher.... The 6600GT is quite a bit faster then a 9800XT.

    That is completely disreguarding any fanboyism as well.
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  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 23 2005, 10:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 23 2005, 10:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Slightly higher.... The 6600GT is quite a bit faster then a 9800XT.

    That is completely disreguarding any fanboyism as well. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    wouldnt it be 6600GT comparaed to 6800LE?
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Well.. I was talking about the above commment on the 6600GT being slightly faster then a 9800XT, which is not the case.

    I know the 6800 is slightly higher then the 6600 which is why I would prefer to get the 6600, if I had to choose between the two Nvidia cards.
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  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 23 2005, 10:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 23 2005, 10:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well.. I was talking about the above commment on the 6600GT being slightly faster then a 9800XT, which is not the case.

    I know the 6800 is slightly higher then the 6600 which is why I would prefer to get the 6600, if I had to choose between the two Nvidia cards. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    who said that 6600GT being slighty faster than 9800XT?
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-spooge+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (spooge)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Spec wise, they're fairly identical so I'd go with whichever is cheaper.
    However, the 6600GT has slightly higher specs for a comperable price.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    He did....
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  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 23 2005, 10:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 23 2005, 10:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-spooge+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (spooge)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Spec wise, they're fairly identical so I'd go with whichever is cheaper.
    However, the 6600GT has slightly higher specs for a comperable price.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    He did.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    he said nothing about 9800TX and 6600GT

    he talked about 9800 (pro?) adn 6800LE
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Either way the 9800 is still a LOT slower then a 6800, anything of the 6000 series really.
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  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 23 2005, 10:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 23 2005, 10:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Either way the 9800 is still a LOT slower then a 6800, anything of the 6000 series really. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    haha i win <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    Ahem...

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Brand SAPPHIRE
    Model RADEON 9800PRO 128M
    Chipset
    <b>GPU Radeon 9800PRO
    Core clock 380MHz
    PixelPipelines: 8
    Memory
    Memory Clock 680MHz
    Memory Size 128MB
    Memory Interface 256-bit </b>
    Memory Type DDR
    3D API
    DirectX DirectX 9
    OpenGL OpenGL 2.0
    Interface
    Interface AGP 4X/8X
    Ports
    D-SUB 1
    DVI 1
    TV-Out S-Video Out
    VIVO No
    TV Tuner No <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    $125


    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Brand Apollo
    Model Apollo 6800LE 128
    Chipset
    <b>GPU Geforce 6800LE
    Core clock 325MHz
    PixelPipelines 8
    Memory
    Memory Clock 700MHz
    Memory Size 128MB
    Memory Interface 256-bit </b>
    Memory Type DDR
    3D API
    DirectX DirectX 9
    OpenGL OpenGL 2.0
    Interface
    Interface AGP 4X/8X
    Ports
    D-SUB 1
    DVI 1
    TV-Out S-Video/Composite Out
    VIVO No
    TV Tuner No <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    $160


    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Brand eVGA
    Model 128-A8-N350
    Chipset
    <b>GPU Geforce 6600GT
    Core clock 500MHz
    PixelPipelines: 8
    Memory
    Memory Clock 1000MHz
    Memory Size 128MB
    Memory Interface 128-bit </b>
    Memory Type GDDR3
    3D API
    DirectX DirectX 9
    OpenGL OpenGL 1.5
    Interface
    Interface AGP 4X/8X
    Ports
    D-SUB 1
    DVI 1
    TV-Out HDTV/S-Video Out
    VIVO No
    TV Tuner No <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    $160
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  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    I have a radeon 9800 and it runs every modern game fine so far. Cant say much for a 6800le though since I never owned one. I dont like geforce too much though <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Which is why I said he should get a 6600 GT same price, HUGE increase in performance and core clock speeds aren't everything. The 9800 doesn't have the shaders the 6800 has.
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Metalcat+Jun 23 2005, 10:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Metalcat @ Jun 23 2005, 10:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i got radeon 9800 pro

    and while its good and stuff just no, its **** mine kept making dots everywhere it was teerible <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yay, I have this too, <i>without the dots.</i>
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  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    I hear the X700 XT is good($200)
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  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    Spooge, that means close to nothing. Clock speeds mean little in terms of performance unless they use identical cores. Theres differences between all three cards in memory bandwidth, shader operations, cores, clock speeds, generations, and various visual enhancements, all of which make way too much difference for that data to mean much.

    Post a benchmark, or theoretical ratings for Mtris/sec and pixel fill rate and that may give some insight.

    I know nVidia and ATi measure their theoretical values differently, so a review would be the best.
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  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    I'm not really sure what the **** is wrong with you people and your ability to comprehend the English language but I never mentioned "speed" or "performance".

    I said...

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Spec wise, they're fairly identical so I'd go with whichever is cheaper.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Now, you want to show him peformance graphs and benchmark numbers? Go ahead.
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  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    im just saying the same specs on different cores will perform differently.

    If you had a radeon 7000 core running at 200 MHz and a 6800 GT core running at 200 MHz, they would not perform simmilarly. Same with CPUs, a 2GHz athlon will almost always outperform a 2 GHz p4, both of which will be pwned by a 2 GHz pentium M.

    Unless you're comparing vivo specs, its not really a valid way to compare worth. That's all.
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Sadly specs now no longer mean performance, which is why people will pay more for a card that might have a slower clock speed, but can do everything the faster clocked one can with better technology. Rule of thumb is to go up a generation if you can, when comparing to cards. 9800 being older then the 6800, by a whole card generation.
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  • OrganoXOrganoX Join Date: 2004-03-21 Member: 27473Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DaJMasta+Jun 23 2005, 04:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DaJMasta @ Jun 23 2005, 04:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The radeon 9800 is a generation behind.

    It <i>may</i> get half the performance that the 6800le would get.

    I also reccomend the 6600GT, since you obviously don't have a PCI-Express system. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Does 6800LE have PCI-Express system? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    And no i dont have PCI-E.

    Cyndane: Have you tested BF2 on your computer with your Geforce 6600GT?
    If so, what average FPS do you get on what settings? <3
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    I don't have a 6600GT I have a 6800 GT... I am averaging around 100-75 fps(demo I don't have the full game).

    The 6600GT isn't that much slower then the 6800GT, which is why I said if you don't need to spend the extra 200 bucks don't.
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  • minskminsk Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12077Members
    <a href='http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050404/index.html' target='_blank'>Few</a> <a href='http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/index.html' target='_blank'>quick</a> <a href='http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041119/index.html' target='_blank'>benchmarks</a> for the curious.
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  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    X800XTPE for the <i>win</i>.

    <span style='font-size:2pt;line-height:100%'>It'll cost you your dog, your house, and your marriage, though. Better start listenin' to country.</span>
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  • OrganoXOrganoX Join Date: 2004-03-21 Member: 27473Members
    Does 6600GT have PCI Express?
    My moderboard doesnt support that <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    It can come with PCI-E yes, but it gets about a 100 dollars more expensive.
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  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Narfwak+Jun 23 2005, 03:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak @ Jun 23 2005, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> X800XTPE for the <i>win</i>.

    <span style='font-size:2pt;line-height:100%'>It'll cost you your dog, your house, and your marriage, though. Better start listenin' to country.</span> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    X850XTPE for the winniest?
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  • OrganoXOrganoX Join Date: 2004-03-21 Member: 27473Members
    I didnt make this topic to read useless "X850XTPE for the winniest" posts.
    My computer doesnt support the card(s).
    So for further posting, recommand me or give advices about those half-old cards, not super über cards, otherwise dont post, thanks <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SandstormSandstorm Join Date: 2003-09-25 Member: 21205Members
    I did notice an improvement going from a 9800XT to a X850XT, but mainly in graphics benchmarks like 3DMark 05, rather than in any games. If you plan to stick to lower resolutions, where your CPU is the limiting factor, I'm sure the 9800s will do just fine for you.

    The X800s have the same features as the 9800s, but with increased performance and reduced power consumption. My X850XT runs at nearly half the temperature of the 9800XT, but it's still nearly twice as fast.
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