"past-gen, Nintendo-created Titles.. Free"

DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
<div class="IPBDescription">With Revolution</div> A little bit old, but didn't see any thread about this one.
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Nintendo vice president speaks


[27/05/05 16:16]
NOA vice president George Harrison talks 'bout a Revolution

Amid the loud roars and beating chests of Sony and Microsoft last week, you'd be forgiven for forgetting about Nintendo completely.

Nintendo - the once dominating force of videogames - sat quietly in the corner, all alone and looking at its watch every five minutes, while its rivals danced and cheered the night away, full of satisfaction and optimism.

But Nintendo hasn't given up. The lack of any next-gen gameplay footage and the omission of the 'revolutionary' controller at the pre-E3 Nintendo conference may have been a disappointment, but Nintendo does have a plan up its sleeve.

In a recent interview with US website GameSpot, Nintendo of America vice president George Harrison answered some burning questions, finally giving some kind of clue as to how Nintendo plans to play this generation.

Beginning by referring to Nintendo's next-gen chances, Harrison confidently claimed, "Revolution will have no real problem standing up to [PS3 and Xbox 360]," keenly pointing out that, while Sony and Microsoft have laid their cards on the table, Nintendo is yet to actually reveal its final specs, regardless of what has been said by the press.

Harrison then explained that getting developers on board is key to the Revolution strategy, and Nintendo is working hard to ensure Revolution is both easy and cheap to develop for.

As far as what makes the console revolutionary, Harrison was coy regarding the controller, instead focusing on Nintendo's online plans and downloadable games service.

<b>"People sort of picked on us for not prematurely jumping into online or internet gaming," he mused, going on to point out that now the company has more to offer besides online gaming. Harrison then confirmed that past-gen, Nintendo-created titles will indeed be downloadable for free.</b>

This is a clever move by Nintendo: regardless of the final power of Revolution and the frequency of new titles, Nintendo knows that its loyal fans will cry tears of joy over a free service that lets them download previous Nintendo classics straight out of the box.

Third-party developers could charge for the privilege to download though. Or, alternatively, they could offer downloadable classics as an incentive to buy their next-gen full price releases. Either way, classic Nintendo titles such as Castlevania and MegaMan may not be immediately accessible.

A similar model applies to online gaming. Playing Nintendo titles across the internet will be free, whereas third-party publishers will be able to charge whatever subscription rates they wish.

Still, with a massive back-catalogue of titles and some key franchises that gamers have been wanting to play online for some time - Mario Kart, to name but one - it's unlikely the occasional fee for a third-party offering will spoil Nintendo's idea too much.

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  • ImmacolataImmacolata Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2140Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    As am I. And I only discovered Nintendo some 4 years ago <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    I was already sold by the online play, since it has games that I want to play online.

    That and I'm glad Nintendo isn't showing their controller design. I don't want it to get mimicked or stolen again.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    Well then it's settled.

    I will have no money in 2006 because i'll have to buy a Revolution as well <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • StarchyStarchy Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15727Members, Constellation
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    This is in fact old news, but I think it was in the Nintendo Revolution thread, not in it's own seperate one. I won't complain because Revolution rocks. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    They are also trying to get other companies to put their games on Nintendo's online service so that they have a more complete library.

    (At the moment they can't put anything not created by Nintendo... I believe this does not include games published by Nintendo like Goldeneye for N64.)
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    If they can get secret of mana in there somewhere then nintendo wins my vote... if they can poke capcom into letting them release the old megamans that works too :3
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    Maybe they' let you save the states of the games onto your revolution, too; then it'd be even better (and seemingly required for RPGs). Revolution already looked like the best console; only better now <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    I would have been happy with paying for the games, even if i already owned them.

    Nintendo > j00
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    That is pretty damn cool. I had always wanted to play some fo the classics that I've missed out on because I was too young at the time to bother with them.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited June 2005
    I wonder if I'll get this.
    I'm seriously considering it, but I haven't bought any consoles in my whole life. I've gotten a GB as a birthday present, my brother bought a NES, and I've borrowed the SNES at my moms job, but never actually bought a console.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    omg....free? I thought we were going to have to pay per title. MAJOR selling point for any oldschool gamer, and any new gamer that missed out on the classics.

    But, I was already going to get a Revolution anyways, so this is just icing on the cake.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DrSuredeath+Jun 2 2005, 02:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrSuredeath @ Jun 2 2005, 02:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A little bit old, but didn't see any thread about this one.
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    Nintendo vice president speaks


    [27/05/05 16:16]
    NOA vice president George Harrison talks 'bout a Revolution

    Amid the loud roars and beating chests of Sony and Microsoft last week, you'd be forgiven for forgetting about Nintendo completely.

    Nintendo - the once dominating force of videogames - sat quietly in the corner, all alone and looking at its watch every five minutes, while its rivals danced and cheered the night away, full of satisfaction and optimism.

    But Nintendo hasn't given up. The lack of any next-gen gameplay footage and the omission of the 'revolutionary' controller at the pre-E3 Nintendo conference may have been a disappointment, but Nintendo does have a plan up its sleeve.

    In a recent interview with US website GameSpot, Nintendo of America vice president George Harrison answered some burning questions, finally giving some kind of clue as to how Nintendo plans to play this generation.

    Beginning by referring to Nintendo's next-gen chances, Harrison confidently claimed, "Revolution will have no real problem standing up to [PS3 and Xbox 360]," keenly pointing out that, while Sony and Microsoft have laid their cards on the table, Nintendo is yet to actually reveal its final specs, regardless of what has been said by the press.

    Harrison then explained that getting developers on board is key to the Revolution strategy, and Nintendo is working hard to ensure Revolution is both easy and cheap to develop for.

    As far as what makes the console revolutionary, Harrison was coy regarding the controller, instead focusing on Nintendo's online plans and downloadable games service.

    <b>"People sort of picked on us for not prematurely jumping into online or internet gaming," he mused, going on to point out that now the company has more to offer besides online gaming. Harrison then confirmed that past-gen, Nintendo-created titles will indeed be downloadable for free.</b>

    This is a clever move by Nintendo: regardless of the final power of Revolution and the frequency of new titles, Nintendo knows that its loyal fans will cry tears of joy over a free service that lets them download previous Nintendo classics straight out of the box.

    Third-party developers could charge for the privilege to download though. Or, alternatively, they could offer downloadable classics as an incentive to buy their next-gen full price releases. Either way, classic Nintendo titles such as Castlevania and MegaMan may not be immediately accessible.

    A similar model applies to online gaming. Playing Nintendo titles across the internet will be free, whereas third-party publishers will be able to charge whatever subscription rates they wish.

    Still, with a massive back-catalogue of titles and some key franchises that gamers have been wanting to play online for some time - Mario Kart, to name but one - it's unlikely the occasional fee for a third-party offering will spoil Nintendo's idea too much.

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    Same here
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited June 2005
    if the entire back catalouge of first party games goes up for free.....


    Paper Mario 1
    All the old marios/zeldas/metroids
    oh dear god....

    then again, I already knew I was gona get a Revoloution, so it dosn't matter <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    Oh, and there so needs to be a shorter version of Revoloution (N:R, Rev?)
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Aren't past-gen Nintendo-created titles already free? For PC?
  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Jun 2 2005, 02:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jun 2 2005, 02:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Aren't past-gen Nintendo-created titles already free? For PC? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just as free as Doom 3 or the new Star Wars movie.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Not legally. In any manner. Although, I kno<b>**BANT**</b>
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    Surely Snes or older is abandonware?

    If they're not selling it anymore, and I can't find a copy in any car-boot sale or 2nd-hand game shop, my concience is clear.

    In one case the company which made said game had been out of business for seven years, so my concience was VERY clear.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    Abandone ware isn't legal, just drop the topic before the thread gets locked (and if you want proof, go look at a certain page about dogs)
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    edited June 2005
    Abandonware is not legal if any entity owns the copyright on the work. If no entity owns the copyright on a work, then the work is in legal limbo as its distribution would still be illegal but there isn't anyone in a position to sue you.

    Nintendo, Capcom, and basically all the game companies worth mentioning, are still around and still own the copyright to their games.

    It doesn't matter how old any given work is, since copyright now basically lasts indefinatly (thank your congressmen for looking out for big business and giving you the finger, as always).

    And just FYI: ROMs are legal to posess in the following circumstances:
    1. You ripped the ROM for yourself from a copy of the game that you own. This is a fair-use protected back-up copy.
    2. The ROM is public domain.
    3. The ROM is sold or rented to you via a legal distribution channel.
  • Omega_DeathOmega_Death Sith apprentice to a box of Cereal Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19042Members
    So what is Nintendo going to pay for licencing to all of the old companies so their entire line up will be available for free? Me thinks it's just going to be first party games and not ALL the old games.
  • CageyCagey Ex-Unknown Worlds Programmer Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8829Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Omega Death+Jun 2 2005, 03:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Omega Death @ Jun 2 2005, 03:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So what is Nintendo going to pay for licencing to all of the old companies so their entire line up will be available for free? Me thinks it's just going to be first party games and not ALL the old games. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm also interested in knowing how their sales model will be affected--if they offer a few hundred free titles, it'll be much harder to make up the traditional loss that the console manufacturers take on hardware to push up units sold and allow additional software sales.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Crono5+Jun 2 2005, 02:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crono5 @ Jun 2 2005, 02:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Jun 2 2005, 02:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jun 2 2005, 02:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Aren't past-gen Nintendo-created titles already free? For PC? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just as free as Doom 3 or the new Star Wars movie. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So, VERY VERY free?
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    Wait wait... Is this official? My last post was without me noticing the key word (Free).
    Has it been confirmed from a Nintendo representative?

    I was sure they would make us pay for it... Hell, I want to pay a little for it, just to show support.
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Omega Death+Jun 2 2005, 06:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Omega Death @ Jun 2 2005, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So what is Nintendo going to pay for licencing to all of the old companies so their entire line up will be available for free? Me thinks it's just going to be first party games and not ALL the old games. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "past-gen, <b>Nintendo-created</b> titles.. Free"
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Jun 2 2005, 11:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jun 2 2005, 11:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Aren't past-gen Nintendo-created titles already free? For PC? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Notice how consoles are looking and becoming more and more like PCs?


    Sooner or later, everyone will figure out that you just need to USE A FREAKING COMPUTER FOR GAMES.


    I mean, they add online play to a console and its revolutionary, whereas computers have had that since... well, since there WAS an internet.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    You see this puddle?
    It's cause I'm drooling in awe.
    Fanboy = true;
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Jun 2 2005, 11:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jun 2 2005, 11:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You see this puddle?
    It's cause I'm drooling in awe.
    Fanboy = true; <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So you're setting boolean variable fanboy equal to true just now? Shouldn't it be == so that we know that it's been that way since the beginning?
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    edited June 2005
    if (doomeh.getFanboy() == true)
    {
    initiateWedgie(doomeh);
    doomeh.setDignity(0);
    }

    else asYouWere();
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    mmm... i would just get it to play Link To The Past <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    oh and for whoever said you cant buy snes anymore, i saw one a few days ago, but didnt buy it, then i realised that the other 3 snes i had at home were broke <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Snidely+Jun 3 2005, 04:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Jun 3 2005, 04:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if (doomeh.getFanboy() == true)
    {
    initiateWedgie(doomeh);
    doomeh.setDignity = 0;
    }

    else asYouWere(); <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This one simply MUST be executed.
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