$999 Video Card

theclamtheclam Join Date: 2004-08-01 Member: 30290Members
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<a href='http://firingsquad.com/hardware/bfg_geforce_6800_ultra_oc_512mb/' target='_blank'>http://firingsquad.com/hardware/bfg_geforc...ultra_oc_512mb/</a>

Doom3 1600x1200x32 4xAA 8xAF
Geforce 6800 Ultra SLI 512 MB 75.2FPS
Geforce 6800 Ultra SLI 256 MB 73.8FPS

Waste of cash.
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  • BreakthroughBreakthrough Texture Artist (ns_prometheus) Join Date: 2005-03-27 Member: 46620Members, Constellation
    Waste of cash, yes.
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  • Status_QuoStatus_Quo Join Date: 2004-01-30 Member: 25749Members
    I could probably buy a completely new computer that could do better than that for $1,000
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Its only a waste of cash because the computer used is bottlenecking the card.

    I think you knew that though theclam. :-)
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  • StormLiongStormLiong Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
    Ok who really practially needs that sort of card? (other than gaming)
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  • theclamtheclam Join Date: 2004-08-01 Member: 30290Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+May 17 2005, 05:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ May 17 2005, 05:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Its only a waste of cash because the computer used is bottlenecking the card.

    I think you knew that though theclam. :-) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's not the computer that's bottlenecking it. They've got one of the best systems that money can buy:
    <a href='http://firingsquad.com/hardware/bfg_geforce_6800_ultra_oc_512mb/page4.asp' target='_blank'>http://firingsquad.com/hardware/bfg_geforc...512mb/page4.asp</a>

    It's the games. They can't do anything with 256MB more video RAM.
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  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    mmm, yeah, that bfg is just too expensive. Especially if you actually want to pursue sli. But yeah, screaming graphics is really for people with money to burn.

    Of course, you'll probably still call me nuts for getting 2 of <a href='http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130222' target='_blank'>these</a> for my new gaming rig. But meh, meh I say!
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  • Omega_DeathOmega_Death Sith apprentice to a box of Cereal Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19042Members
    Just imagine 2 of those SLI'd... (starts drooling)
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  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-StormLiong+May 17 2005, 10:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StormLiong @ May 17 2005, 10:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok who really practially needs that sort of card? (other than gaming) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The bigger question is 'who' does use their computer for other purposes besides gaming!
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    The RAM is actually what is bottlenecking the system, since it is not operating at the same speed as the video card can, it can not process information fast enough. DDR3200 is not the best that is out there.
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  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    edited May 2005
    retarded.

    a few hundred bucks for 2 fps?

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    I mean the move to 512MB is necissairy in the long run and all, but its kinda like the x800XL 512MB right now, like double the price for a couple FPS, and since no games really use high enough texture resolutions (yet im sure) theres no point to get one now.
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  • ShoeboxShoebox Join Date: 2004-11-15 Member: 32817Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-T h e m+May 17 2005, 03:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (T h e m @ May 17 2005, 03:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> mmm, yeah, that bfg is just too expensive. Especially if you actually want to pursue sli. But yeah, screaming graphics is really for people with money to burn.

    Of course, you'll probably still call me nuts for getting 2 of <a href='http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130222' target='_blank'>these</a> for my new gaming rig. But meh, meh I say! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    holy hell you bought two of those?! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Mad_ManMad_Man Join Date: 2003-06-13 Member: 17359Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Shoebox+May 17 2005, 07:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shoebox @ May 17 2005, 07:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-T h e m+May 17 2005, 03:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (T h e m @ May 17 2005, 03:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> mmm, yeah, that bfg is just too expensive. Especially if you actually want to pursue sli. But yeah, screaming graphics is really for people with money to burn.

    Of course, you'll probably still call me nuts for getting 2 of <a href='http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130222' target='_blank'>these</a> for my new gaming rig. But meh, meh I say! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    holy hell you bought two of those?! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Indeed they take up 4 pci slots, you must have no room left over in your case o.O
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  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Man+May 17 2005, 06:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mad Man @ May 17 2005, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Shoebox+May 17 2005, 07:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shoebox @ May 17 2005, 07:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-T h e m+May 17 2005, 03:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (T h e m @ May 17 2005, 03:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> mmm, yeah, that bfg is just too expensive. Especially if you actually want to pursue sli. But yeah, screaming graphics is really for people with money to burn.

    Of course, you'll probably still call me nuts for getting 2 of <a href='http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130222' target='_blank'>these</a> for my new gaming rig. But meh, meh I say! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    holy hell you bought two of those?! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Indeed they take up 4 pci slots, you must have no room left over in your case o.O <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    just enough to squeeze in my soundcard
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  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Status Quo+May 17 2005, 10:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Status Quo @ May 17 2005, 10:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I could probably buy a completely new computer that could do better than that for $1,000 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, you probably couldn't.

    I could explain why, but simple logic and / or common sense should make it abundantly clear.
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  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    Mr. negitive post count has a good point there. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    They are probably only adding these new cards to rigs that cost well over 2000 bucks with NO graphics card. Like the one in the provided firingsquad link, if the parts were available in stores, even cheaply would probably be more than 1000 bucks for JUST THE CPU.
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  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    I demand this video card even if my 3200+ bottlenecks it.
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  • relsanrelsan Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3720Members, Constellation
    ah i knew my card would eventually become obsolete one day.
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  • ShoeboxShoebox Join Date: 2004-11-15 Member: 32817Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-relsan+May 17 2005, 08:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (relsan @ May 17 2005, 08:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ah i knew my card would eventually become obsolete one day. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ya i think mine did a while ago but it still runs games perfectly fine so meh.
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  • Status_QuoStatus_Quo Join Date: 2004-01-30 Member: 25749Members
    I know, esuna, it was a so called "exaggeration". One could think of it as a "sarcastic" reaction to the price vs gains.
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  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    Wow... So many people who don't know what the point of VRAM is or why they would want more. -_-
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  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    the point is that VRAM is plenty useful, just having lots more beyond a point is useless, if the current games never take up more than 256MB of textures and models in memory, you dont get any real bonus by having double. For the select few games that use more than this much memory, or for games runing insane resolutions to drain memory with the frame buffer, it will help performance.

    Its not even so much of a cup/system memory bottleneck problem, its just if you have enough space to do everything a game wants, then you give it more space, its not going to get any benifit of having the extra space, thats why most games get like a 2 FPS boost. If you doubled all the texture resolutions in a game, then the speed boost would be more aparent because of the increased texture swapping with the main system memory, and the additional bandwidth it eats up.
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  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-theclam+May 17 2005, 10:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (theclam @ May 17 2005, 10:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's the games. They can't do anything with 256MB more video RAM. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Take it back right now. Doom3, Ultra Mode. Warning comes up "This mode requires more than 500MB of texture RAM".

    Doom3 is Ultra mode just dumps pure, raw, id Software textures to the card, which are 512MB in size. You would *NEED* 2 of these to play it in Ultra mode, as it was intended to run. Anything less will still compress the textures down to the size of Tex.RAM you have.

    On a different note. HOLY FU**ING GOD!!! A64 4800+!!!

    Is it me, or are Intel really starting to lag being AMD in the gamer's market?
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  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    The video card is really only $869 now.
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  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DuoGodOfDeath+May 18 2005, 02:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuoGodOfDeath @ May 18 2005, 02:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The video card is really only $869 now. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh joy. Now to take out that loan money...

    FAFSA? Pfft, what's college.
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  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Lt Patch+May 18 2005, 02:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Patch @ May 18 2005, 02:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> On a different note. HOLY FU**ING GOD!!! A64 4800+!!!

    Is it me, or are Intel really starting to lag being AMD in the gamer's market? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Its true, for almost the entire pentium 4 series, intel has been regularly behind in gaming benchmarks, and only accels in some kinds of decoding/encoding and simmilar tasks.

    Not that either company makes a bad CPU, just for less money AMD makes one that works better were it counts.

    And btw, thats an Athlon64 X2 4800+, not only is it incredibly fast, but it is dual-core with each core having 1 MB of cache.
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  • Omega_DeathOmega_Death Sith apprentice to a box of Cereal Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19042Members
    For $999 that thing better get up bright and early and make me waffles from scratch every morning.
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  • CodemanCodeman Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9497Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    amen to that!
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