Ns Is Alive! :)
DaJMasta
Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">its so true.</div> I just wanted to say congrats to the dev team for the awesome game, 3.0F is a pretty big step, being that the next large version will be using a completely different engine.
The community, for the most part <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->, is also great, both players in game and all the regulars at the forums have contributed their two cents/bullets/bites and everything seems to be chugging along nicely.
Not to start anything (i don't want no trouble sirs) but NS is far from dead, check the steampowered.com statistics, it is the most played online 3rd party mod of ANY steam game, with the specialists in a distant second (1/4th of the players).
Since its a discussion, go ahead and discuss, just try not to flame.....too much <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The community, for the most part <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->, is also great, both players in game and all the regulars at the forums have contributed their two cents/bullets/bites and everything seems to be chugging along nicely.
Not to start anything (i don't want no trouble sirs) but NS is far from dead, check the steampowered.com statistics, it is the most played online 3rd party mod of ANY steam game, with the specialists in a distant second (1/4th of the players).
Since its a discussion, go ahead and discuss, just try not to flame.....too much <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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And what might be your point of reference Mr. 10-January 05 join date?
I'm not an NS hater but if you have been here from November 2002 then you would know that its getting harder and harder to find NS classic games. Sure there are many "NS" players online even these numbers have been slideing, but most of these players are playing CO. And CO isnt NS.
True, in some ways I would like things changed differently, and shaped differently. But that's life, things get changed for the better or worse.
In the most part, the NS devs are doing a great job, trying to accomodate most of the requests, and including new features that they deem good to add into NS.
Thank you for creating a game that we can waste our time on. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And what might be your point of reference Mr. 10-January 05 join date? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
low blow <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
and just cause i joined the forums this year dosent mean i didnt see basically all the 3.0 betas, not that thats very far back for most of you anyways.
But think of it. A mod started years ago on an engine released in 1999 (not counting that its based off quake) that is competing with ALL of the new games for players, including all the valve, epic, atari, ect games which have come out, even since the release of NS. and 1300 players is not very close to zero, so I wouldnt consider it dead.
VERY few games will last this long, period, so saying its dead after it has lost some players in the last few years dosent really make sense now does it?
100 ping is a 1/10th of a second delay for people who are new to the concept.
And what might be your point of reference Mr. 10-January 05 join date?
I'm not an NS hater but if you have been here from November 2002 then you would know that its getting harder and harder to find NS classic games. Sure there are many "NS" players online even these numbers have been slideing, but most of these players are playing CO. And CO isnt NS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
orly mr. Joined: 13-February 03
orly mr Joined: 25-November 02
And oh yes, NS is alive. But boring.
Maybe it simply where you are trying to connect from, because theres a good handful of never above 50 ping servers i can choose from, almost all of which always have people in them, and a whole bunch more under or near 100.
I count 62 servers with under 100 ping, people currently playing, and no password.
<img src='http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/DaJMasta/Servers.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Also go by Mr. 2 Posts. edit *3 posts now loool*
What exactly is your point Mr. 13-February 03?
Norn is correct. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Decent comp, cable internet, 15 or so miles from DC.
But if I did live in a server hosting company I'd devote a T1 line and a dual opteron server just for NS. Cause it rules of course. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I count 62 servers with under 100 ping, people currently playing, and no password.
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And what, 15 or so of those servers are NS? :\
That's hardly prooving a point.
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<a href='http://www.steampowered.com/status/game_stats.html' target='_blank'>Nem already posted, and he just said steampowered.com...</a>
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Prolly a good time to stop forecasting the downfall of NS, I'd say.
I count 62 servers with under 100 ping, people currently playing, and no password.
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And what, 15 or so of those servers are NS? :\
That's hardly prooving a point. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I count 33 by my latest count. That includes only classic maps, and no maps with seige in the title.
33 with people currently playing probably means theres alot more, and it means that there will be people playing at all hours of the day.
100 ping is a 1/10th of a second delay for people who are new to the concept. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well NS is still alive for me then... but it's the only third party mod I know of that is...
Kindof sad I guess, so much death.
And what might be your point of reference Mr. 10-January 05 join date?
I'm not an NS hater but if you have been here from November 2002 then you would know that its getting harder and harder to find NS classic games. Sure there are many "NS" players online even these numbers have been slideing, but most of these players are playing CO. And CO isnt NS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have to agree. The player base for classic has gone down. But I guess every wants to play combat. I prefer classic but Ill play some combat until a good classic match starts up <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Steampowered shows 1,179 players online playing NS atm, however it is counting all the bots and all the fakefull players and all the hltv proxies. What steampowered is not doing, is telling us how many real players are playing NS, as opposed to CO. Where in my post I took a cross-section of servers and broke them down for you. Explaining what was going on on each one. Want to be shocked have a look at this page: <a href='http://csports.net/ModStats.aspx?Matrix=1&Mod=845' target='_blank'>See how many closer to the release day of 3.0 final</a> look how it falls off in only 30 days. Now look at a more accurate player count <a href='http://csports.net/TopMods.aspx?Matrix=0&Mod=0' target='_blank'>Number 51 at this posting</a> there was a day when Natural Selection was in the top 25 mods on this site, there was a day or two that Natural Selection assulted the beaches of DOD and left the people over at valve scared.
I love facts, call me emotional if you like. However I used pure facts to form my oppion. If your new to NS welcome to a great game, but if CO is all you crave then why not go get HL2 becouse I hear cs:source owns, and lots of your freinds will be there to play with you.
just my opinion :-P
Well I'd hate to see you go without so here are a few places just off a quick list I made today to back up my claims. Talk to the admins there and they can get you hooked-up with fake full or whatever mod they are useing ATM.
Enjoy.
There aint no player like a fake player.
208.37.26.153:27035
66.55.154.11:27015
69.93.247.130:27015
It would take me all day to list ips for the all but you get the idea.
You want a complete random sampling? Okay, here ya go:
EST - 6:50 PM
Top 10 servers sorted by latency with default filters on:
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players map latency
5/19 ns_agora 31
25/29 ns_stargate-xt9 35
2/15 co_faceoff 36
7/18 co_kestrel 37
10/18 ns_eclipse 37
8/20 co_faceoff 37
24/26 ns_lost 40
2/16 co_faceoff 41
19/24 co_blackmesa 41
12/19 ns_eclipse 43
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5 classic, 5 combat. Wow. AND there are more classic players than combat players. Wow.
I also joined each server for just a few seconds to see if there were any bots on any of them. Guess what, the only bots I found were on the blackmesa server.
Get over yourself; there are plenty of places to play. Co_ hasn't ruined anything. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to see if there are still slots in that ns_lost game.
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Gota love those well thought out posts, and the drug references, might as well just use playground taunts instead of makeing a good case. Nice one. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Its after school time in the USA, servers will have lots of players for the next few hours, its gamers "rush hour" if you will pardon the expression. Wait tell 11pm pst and do your "Random" list and rember no bots and fake full servers, I noticed that you left the names out on your "random" list so I couldnt check um for bots. Good stuff enjoy your game.
although, there was 12+ good servers with low pings when I had SBC DSL..
Ever since I went to comcast, my pings doubled... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
yesterday I played a solid 6-7 hours of classic gaming. granted most of that time was scrimming or pugging.
Most of the HardCore NSers hardly play pubs, they mostly scrim or pug. granted im sure I dont speak for everyone.
Maybe it simply where you are trying to connect from, because theres a good handful of never above 50 ping servers i can choose from, almost all of which always have people in them, and a whole bunch more under or near 100.
I count 62 servers with under 100 ping, people currently playing, and no password. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bad choice of screenshots if you're trying to show NS is alive and well. I count 6 viable NS games on your screenshot.
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@ sky, thats what im seeing....
@ Fangs, in my experience, there is alot fewer bots than you are claiming, i have played on low pinging classic and combat servers for at least a little bit now, and i have run into a SINGLE bot. (who was horrendus, just gave the other team kills, but anyways....) I also think that 3.0F did make quite a large impact on the playerbase, it brought it back to the spotlight for a little while, and many new players joined and went their ways, i mean thats around the time when I started picking it up again...
O and the ranking thing, when i checked it was 47 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> , but i know what your getting at. Im just trying to say that there WAS a day when the HL engine was top of the line, there WAS a day before HL² and UT2004 and BF1942, that day is NOT now, and for the age of the engine, and the number of people who can/do still use steam Natural Selection is doing very well. Also consider that its completely normal to have a spike after a new release, on any game or mod, so of course there were more then 3.0F were released, and of course there were more in early 3.0 and 2 because the mod was still new enough to attract new people, and old enough to actually have some publicity.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I love facts, call me emotional if you like. However I used pure facts to form my oppion. If your new to NS welcome to a great game, but if CO is all you crave then why not go get HL2 becouse I hear cs:source owns, and lots of your freinds will be there to play with you.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Im not really sure what you mean here, kinda like making a point, but like it belongs in a different thread, so whatever...
And for the CO haters or skeptics, almost every CO server I have joined that allows voting for NS maps or the other way around, will play mostly NS maps, and if you join a tiny CO server especially, CO is used more as something to attract enough people to play a classic map, almost like a lobby. Some of you obviously have different experiences, but given the circumstances i still think Natural Selection, as a whole and as classic and combat, is doing well.
NS Classic = www.caleague.com
Otherwise, yes, public Classic is near dead.
I count 62 servers with under 100 ping, people currently playing, and no password.
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And what, 15 or so of those servers are NS? :\
That's hardly prooving a point. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
And most of those servers are blockscripts too so they don't really count as ns. At the moment I see about 10 real servers.