<div class="IPBDescription">for marines</div> Why are the commander getting score for buildings? If marines got score for building, it would encourage marines to build.
<!--QuoteBegin-Eruyomo+Apr 17 2005, 12:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Eruyomo @ Apr 17 2005, 12:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why are the commander getting score for buildings? If marines got score for building, it would encourage marines to build. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What are you talking about? The game isn't about getting score goddamnit.
vote for removing the scoreboard again <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Can the score at least stay? I like to know whos bulit what, or sorta get the general idea of what they have done. (I'm talking about aliens by the way)
remove the scoreboard AND give a million points for GUARDING someone who builds and another million points for someone that DOES NOT RAMBO and just defends without moving anbd shooting most times at all.
just kidding. Do whatever the treadstarter says, rambos and unguarded marines ate tasty.
I didn't play in the old days with no scoreboard, it was no scoreboard before right? Or was it a scoreboard without K:D, so you could se the score but not kills and deach?
<!--QuoteBegin-surprise+Apr 17 2005, 09:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (surprise @ Apr 17 2005, 09:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if you cant see your score it will be much less tempting to go for high k:d ratios or such <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Or if you make points for building it would be more tempting to build.
Let's say we have one marine with K:0 and D:10 and another one with K:5 and D:0, but the first marine are building everything the commander wants him to build and the other marine is just running by all RTs, TFs and PGs. With one is the better marine from a commanders point of view and with one is getting the higher score?
In some way the score doesn't always reflect to the "best" marine, sure the second marine is killing more but you can't win a game only by killing (well in some way you can but you get my point).
As a gorge, every 25 healing sprays (which actally heal something) should give you 1 point. Healer gorges never get enough credit, and they are invaluable for their team.
--Each player who damaged an enemy in the last 2 seconds before that enemy dies gets partial credit. --The player who made the killing blow gets double credit, otherwise divided equally
And same for destroying structures.
And then the total score for each player/building killed should be
1 point/5 res, +1 if its a player.
So a 0-res skulks is 1 point. A 50-res fade is 11 points. A shotgun-marine is 3 points. Destroying a 10-res OC is 2 points. And so on.
Scoreboard stays. The only change will be that points will be awarded for building on a per-second basis for each individual marine. <b>For example:</b> if a marine spends 30 seconds building during a round that marine will be awarded 30 points. If the marine spends 0 seconds building during a round that marine will be awarded 0 points.
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How about not changing the scoreboard at all. The point is to encourage teamwork and communication, not point-whoring. By giving points for building, you're just adding to the problem, but in a different way.
In the old days when the scoreboard didnt show k/d. I had /status in console <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'd be **** if I were a com and I couldn't tell which rine(s) to give the first couple of shotties to. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The Commander gets points for placing buildings. Marines get points for kills. All aliens get points for kills. Since it is generally harder for gorgeys to get kills, they get points for building (since they waste there res)
Cant we leave it at that <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm all for the Points/xxxSECONDS spent building. It would help the com a LITTLE knowing what marines were actually building and not ramboing the field even though they SHOULD know that on their own....but it would encourage newbs to build <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I vote for removing the scoreboard. In any team sport is there indervidual player rankings. Im having trouble in NZ atm with servers run by CS players and they have started ranking the players on there servers.
How lame is that being able to see o im the 90th best player on this server ><.
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If marines got score for building, it would encourage marines to build. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What are you talking about? The game isn't about getting score goddamnit.
NS isn't about killing either but some people only play NS to get high K:D ratio.
Before this....disease...starts spreading...
And NS is NOT about the score!
just kidding.
Do whatever the treadstarter says, rambos and unguarded marines ate tasty.
Or was it a scoreboard without K:D, so you could se the score but not kills and deach?
if you cant see your score it will be much less tempting to go for high k:d ratios or such
Or if you make points for building it would be more tempting to build.
Let's say we have one marine with K:0 and D:10 and another one with K:5 and D:0, but the first marine are building everything the commander wants him to build and the other marine is just running by all RTs, TFs and PGs. With one is the better marine from a commanders point of view and with one is getting the higher score?
In some way the score doesn't always reflect to the "best" marine, sure the second marine is killing more but you can't win a game only by killing (well in some way you can but you get my point).
Edit: Spelling
but now, like getting 2 score for each skulk is ridiculous, you have players with a bigger score than the comm :S
And what are the aliens getting score for diffrent marine types (HA, JP, HMG, GL, welder)?
I think the score system really should show with marine or alien who helped the team most. Building, killing, maby ever healing and welding.
Lifeforms like leark is getting little score but they are supporting the team a lot.
and if yes do i get the same amount as the guy who pumped 4 shotgun loads into it?
--Each player who damaged an enemy in the last 2 seconds before that enemy dies gets partial credit.
--The player who made the killing blow gets double credit, otherwise divided equally
And same for destroying structures.
And then the total score for each player/building killed should be
1 point/5 res, +1 if its a player.
So a 0-res skulks is 1 point. A 50-res fade is 11 points. A shotgun-marine is 3 points. Destroying a 10-res OC is 2 points. And so on.
Scoreboard stays. The only change will be that points will be awarded for building on a per-second basis for each individual marine.
<b>For example:</b> if a marine spends 30 seconds building during a round that marine will be awarded 30 points. If the marine spends 0 seconds building during a round that marine will be awarded 0 points.
I have spoken. So it shall be done.
Anyway, it always showed team k/d, just not always player k/d. Never take out team k/d, thats a really useful statistic.
Marines get points for kills.
All aliens get points for kills.
Since it is generally harder for gorgeys to get kills, they get points for building (since they waste there res)
Cant we leave it at that <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
In any team sport is there indervidual player rankings. Im having trouble in NZ atm with servers run by CS players and they have started ranking the players on there servers.
How lame is that being able to see o im the 90th best player on this server ><.