Family Death.

MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
<div class="IPBDescription">and i dont really care.... ?</div> hey, ok so for those of you who know me, ive been here a while.. and often have ranted with my life woes, and usually get alot of help <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> now, if you cant say anything nice. please for the love of god. go crack one off.. and leave me be. (testament this means you.)

ok, SO now thats out the way, i got a weird email from my biological mother, which read ' tommy i have some bad news, your grandad is dead. at first i flipped out, cos i thoguht she meant her mother, but she didnt, she meant my dad's dad..

now to track back abit, when i was a baby i got abused... not sexually or nothing, but physically, beaten... and my mother got raped, my father is not a nice man. which is why i was adopted. now im in contact with my mother, and she has as few ties with him as possible, but still... it was his father, and she informed me to be nice etc, now the thing is, i really dont care. infact, i would be more bothered if my hamster died. is this wrong? he WAS my grandad, although i never met him. and he brought an abusive scumlike child into the world... why should i care?

just wondering what people's take is on this... cos im stumped... should i care? shouldnt i?

feel free to ask questions or w/e if you like, im not sensitive about the issue

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  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    Why should you care to any great length about someone you never met? Sucks when people die, but its not like this will really effect you at all, so I wouldn't worry about it.
  • SkinnYSkinnY Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7500Members
    Imo the only real family anyone can get are those who care for you, being you bio. mother father or brother, if that person does not care for you in anyway, and would rather beat you up for the fun of it, that person is not family. A family is supossed to be there for support and if it is the elders of the family they should guide you and make sure you go down the right path. My father stepdad died a couple of years ago, i went to the funeral but felt nothing, the thing that made me the most sad was seeing my mother and father and grandmother cry, i did not feel a thing for the fact that my dads stepdad died. he did not mean anything for me, he has never shown me any support and barely talked to me. i cannot see why i should care for a person who never cared for me.



    but... yea that's just my thoughts and feelings.
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    not caring is one thing, but hating him because he brought your father into the world is injust in my opinion... I'm a firm believer that you shape your own life - your grandad may well have been a mean piece of work, but on the other hand he might well have been a fantastic father, and a loving husband etc - just because his son turned out bad doesn't necessairily mean it was his fault. (I know that often children with 'bad' childhoods may not turn out as society's top runners, but take yourself as a prime example; you were abused as a child, but have turned out fine (I assume))...

    Just food for thought :-)
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-AlienCow+Apr 4 2005, 07:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AlienCow @ Apr 4 2005, 07:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why should you care to any great length about someone you never met? Sucks when people die, but its not like this will really effect you at all, so I wouldn't worry about it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I completely agree with this.
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-im lost+Apr 4 2005, 09:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ Apr 4 2005, 09:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AlienCow+Apr 4 2005, 07:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AlienCow @ Apr 4 2005, 07:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why should you care to any great length about someone you never met? Sucks when people die, but its not like this will really effect you at all, so I wouldn't worry about it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I completely agree with this. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Double quoted for exceptional value and wisdom.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I had a similar situation in that my fathers mom died (my dad isn't a jerk like your dad) She did abuse him though, so I didnt feel badly, he didn't either probably because he remembered how she treated him. Oh well. I wouldn't worry, its like someone already said, why feel badly for someone that did you wrong/never met them.
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    When my grandmother on my mother's side died, I felt nothing. At all. But then again she was a total ****.

    Kind of natural for people you don't have any real kind of attachment to I guess.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    I had an uncle on my mother's side who died recently and he was a nice guy and all but we rarely ever spoke. That night my brother calls from austin on his cell. "Hey, uh... Do you... feel anything?" I stood there on my porch staring into the sky for maybe 15 seconds. "No. No, not really. Is that bad?" His voice came in over the phone right after. "Uhhh. I don't either. I don't know. I don't think it's bad or good." I understood what he meant. "Yeah. I guess so..."

    So it doesn't have to be someone you hate, just someone you don't know too well. If you knew the guy, then things would be a little more different.
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    I didn't go to my father's father's funeral. Didn't really care all that much either. I met him a couple times, but that was it. My father never really spoke well of him and I just never thought much of him as a result.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Apr 4 2005, 10:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Apr 4 2005, 10:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-im lost+Apr 4 2005, 09:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ Apr 4 2005, 09:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AlienCow+Apr 4 2005, 07:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AlienCow @ Apr 4 2005, 07:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why should you care to any great length about someone you never met? Sucks when people die, but its not like this will really effect you at all, so I wouldn't worry about it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I completely agree with this. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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    Triple quoted for emphasis.
  • Steel_TrollSteel_Troll Join Date: 2004-02-12 Member: 26455Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nil IQ+Apr 4 2005, 05:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil IQ @ Apr 4 2005, 05:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Apr 4 2005, 10:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Apr 4 2005, 10:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-im lost+Apr 4 2005, 09:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ Apr 4 2005, 09:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AlienCow+Apr 4 2005, 07:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AlienCow @ Apr 4 2005, 07:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why should you care to any great length about someone you never met? Sucks when people die, but its not like this will really effect you at all, so I wouldn't worry about it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I completely agree with this. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    I concur with the quad-quoted statement.

    Judging from the brief read of your post, you owe your biological father exactly jack ****. Funerals aren't for those who died anyway, they're for the ones left behind, i.e. your **** biological father. Not only do you owe him nothing, but considering his history of abuse I think you should have as little to do with him as possible. And looking at the worst possible case, people get very emotional at funerals, and when abusive people get emotional they can get violent. I suspect you would want nothing to do with such a situation (as you shouldn't).

    However if you do have another relative you do care about attending, and you think your dad won't go psycho, and you want to attend for the benefit of said cared about relative, go for it.

    It's up to you.
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    Eh, I had a relative die about a year ago from cancer that I saw about once a month, I didnt care at all. I dunno, I just dont seem to get sad with things like that :o
  • Private_ColemanPrivate_Coleman PhD in Video Games Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7510Members
    I've never cared about any deaths in my family. Was I supposed to? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    you were adopted and raised by diff parents, the abuser is dead

    no big loss, society wins, don't think you need to feel sad, but try some therapy [seriously] anyways [for the abuse at the young age, yes it has an effect]

    nothing more to see here, move along <!--emo&::tsa::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tsa.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tsa.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    thanks for the input guys, and doom, none of the others are going his other son (my kid brother) and my bilogical mother.. so i dont care...

    but its in america anyway... to be honest, if i were there, i would probarbly go, and yeah there would be a seen,

    lets just say my fatehr is on my KOS list. this is a guy who 'threw across the room'
    and that was the social services wording. a 6 month old baby. the man is a sicko.. and if i ever do meet him face to face.. ill see if he wants to take me on now..

    but thats a different matter.

    after all this, i am inclined to agree, but you cant help the empty feeling, the whole ' void' thing ya know?
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    I really have to agree with everyone else here. Why weep over spilled milk when the milk wasn't even yours? I mean there is no problem with being a little sad simply out of the death of another human being, but it isn't like a blood relation forces you to have developed feelings for that person.

    I have lots of old old relitives, most of which I have met maby once or twice. Every now and them passes on and it leaks through to me through the grapevine. I always feel a little down when it happens, but honestly, I could say the same thing. If I had a hampster I would probably be more distressed if it died then I am for these old relitives of mine.

    People die, its part of life. Its hard to mourn the loss of something you never really even had.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    edited April 2005
    I don't see why you should care (Oh yeah, Moqauio, to the original post, shove it up your hole).

    2 or 3 years ago my grandmother died, hell, I was the second person to see her body when we walked into the room, and I didn't care. I've never cared. I used it as an excuse to be an even bigger **** than usual.

    So...yeah. No need to care or even worry.

    As a note, this grandmother was around once every few days for at least an hour for as long as I can remember, and it still didn't make any impact on my life. Honestly, familiarity doesn't make a connection. It'd take someone I really like alot (ss in, no one I've met so far worthy of it ;p) for me to care, and it should be like that for everyone...maybe then peoples lives wouldn't stop when their cousin ten times removed bites the dust.
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members
    Despite Testament unfelt comment above, I actually agree with him.

    Most funerals that I've been to, be they family, or friends, I never really felt *anything*, not woe, nothing. Not even the feeling of intense boredom.

    With one major exception

    When my grandmother died in the hospital after I went to the toilet. I felt so angry with myself that I had left her side. My grandmother was everything to me. Not only did she look after me when I needed looking after. She was there through all my emotional turmoil of breaking up with someone I had been with for years. (I was 16 at the time, and had broken up with someone who I had been with all through high school). She had protected me all the way through my life, and I was by her side all the time she was in hospital, try to start repaying the favour. I told her that I was going to the toilet and would be back in a few minutes. I went off, came back, and the staff wouldn't let me back into her room. I was told she had died minutes ago. Words can't describe what feeling of anger and intense hatred I had towards myself. All the time I was there, she was fine. I went to the toilet, and she passed on. Not during all my life had she put herself beyond anyone else. I do it for a minute, and she goes on.

    Sorry to unload upon you lot, but somethings are better shared.
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Same thing here. My father's father passed away about 5 years ago, and I didn't really feel a thing, other than my first encounter with death, which was pretty scary if not sad. It was more of a <i>This is going to be me someday</i> feeling than one of loss. He too was something of an abusive father and husband, though definitetly not as bad as you say yours was.

    My father was probably negatively affected by it, but he never shows it, at least to me. He's very intelligent and I think sometimes that he was too easy on me for fear of becoming like his father was.
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