School Shooting

DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
<div class="IPBDescription">wow, no thread about this yet? D:</div> I didnt see a thread on it, so here.

<a href='http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_080164955.html' target='_blank'>Link to story</a>

Moral: dont tease people.

Theres also a flash he made which is pretty insane too, I think its on newgrounds right now.
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  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    moral : its alright to tease people just dont give a 17 year old a gun
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Moral: On a planet with more than six billion citizens, it's a wonder and a credit to our species that this does happen so seldomly that it remains newsworthy.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    You have no idea how much I'm itching to make an inappropriate comment in this thread.
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    edited March 2005
    One wonders how a person's mind comes to this state.

    edit: testament: that's why you're restricted
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Mar 25 2005, 01:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Mar 25 2005, 01:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->moral : its alright to tease people just dont give a 17 year old a gun<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What, the gun itself was what drove him to kill ten people? Don't be so stupid.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You have no idea how much I'm itching to make an inappropriate comment in this thread.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There should be instant bans for this.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    edited March 2005
    An instant banning for what? What meaningful comments can anyone make in a thread like this? Lamenting for the deaths? It's not like it affects any of us. So far it's consisted of "moral: random comment."

    Maybe you'd have a leg to stand on if I had actually said something offensive. It's not like this thread is going to be any kind of great discussion.
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    Go on then, love - tell me what kind of "inappropriate comment" would be applicable for a thread like this. I'll read it in the morning.
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    I think I see the crux of the issue for Testament: one very likely direction is for the thread to stay serious long enough to be moved over to Discussions, where he would no longer be able to participate in it.

    The other likely direction is for it to get locked due to hostilites. I don't like hostilities between members, so I don't want this to happen. I have ways of making sure you all don't want it to happen either.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    I have no issues with it being in discussion. I just don't see the thread going anywhere in particular. I also find it stupid that people took my comment as something serious. There's not really anything TO discuss. No one will know his motives, and the only guesses are obvious. Maybe there'll be a religious debate, ending in a fight.
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    nothing wrong with valuing life, whether it affects you directly or not.
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    It's too bad those people had to die...I blame the parents
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    I blame the kid who grabbed a gun and killed ten people. Maybe I'm just strange, though.
  • funbagsfunbags Join Date: 2003-06-08 Member: 17099Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Testament+Mar 24 2005, 09:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ Mar 24 2005, 09:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I blame the kid who grabbed a gun and killed ten people. Maybe I'm just strange, though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    QFE.
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mullet+Mar 24 2005, 09:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mullet @ Mar 24 2005, 09:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's too bad those people had to die...I blame the parents <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Uhm, weren't his parents dead/gone for at least 4 years prior?

    And...

    <!--QuoteBegin-Testament+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I blame the kid who grabbed a gun and killed ten people. Maybe I'm just strange, though.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    QFT
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    Quotes from another report:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sondra Hegstrom, who said she had had classes with Weise, said he was quiet and "never said anything." He was teased -- "terrorized," she said -- by people who thought he was weird.

    At 6 feet and 250 pounds, Jeff Weise also was the target of constant razzing. "Plus he was held back a couple of grades," Gurneau said.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    And with his family dead, I dobut any person could take any kind of teasing for long, since apparently he didnt have any friends. I've been there kinda, my faimly split up not long ago and I never really had too many friends at school, so teasing got to me alot. I think it was the computer that kept me sane mostly <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    The teasing, while bad, does not excuse the act of killing.
  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    Another classic case of Natural Selection. No, I'm not talkiing about a Native American killing for blood purity; I'm referring to the act of a stupid person ridding the world of himself. I'm upset about the fact that he decided to take so many potentially great people with him. I'm sure that all of the hopeless Native Americans on reservations will take his example to heart, and then keep right on drinking. Another waste of life. He didn't prove a point, make a protest, or anything. He simply killed and then killed himself.
  • ShoeboxShoebox Join Date: 2004-11-15 Member: 32817Members
    stuff on the news said that he went to forums and posted as something like Neo hiler or something. they also said he was telling friends how funny it would be to kill a bunch of people and none of his friends believed him...so if someone here says something like that, please dont come near me.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gwahir+Mar 24 2005, 07:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gwahir @ Mar 24 2005, 07:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The teasing, while bad, does not excuse the act of killing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And I'm pretty sure he didn't care.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    edited March 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Shoebox+Mar 25 2005, 03:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shoebox @ Mar 25 2005, 03:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> stuff on the news said that he went to forums and posted as something like Neo hiler or something. they also said he was telling friends how funny it would be to kill a bunch of people and none of his friends believed him...so if someone here says something like that, please dont come near me. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's because it's ridiculous, hell, i've said to people that i'm gonna murder so-and-so or kill x-group-of-people, but i don't mean it, i'm sure a lot of you have said things like that to friends before, and i'm sure none of them believed you would actually do it either. To do something like that, you need to be screwed up in the head, and that's what he was.

    Sure, his parents died, was teased at school, had no friends, whatever, that's tough, nobody wants to have to endure that, but life's like that. Resorting to something so cold-blooded and barbaric isn't going to win anybody's sympathy.

    So in closing, the only thing this waste of flesh did right was to kill himself.
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    Liku, I get the feeling you are either misinterpreting my point or I have no idea what your connection is.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    You have no idea what the connection is, Gwahir.

    It means that he doesn't care whether it's right or wrong because he has a bullet lodged in his brain right about now.
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    Testament, you like insulting people on a whim, fine.

    But it was a misinterpretation, because my statement was standalone and did not require the killer's opinion on it.
  • groKKingmImIgroKKingmImI Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34003Members
    edited March 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-twoflow+Mar 24 2005, 08:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (twoflow @ Mar 24 2005, 08:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Go on then, love - tell me what kind of "inappropriate comment" would be applicable for a thread like this.  I'll read it in the morning. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Good riddance?

    (Come on testament, you're slacking.)

    ---

    This kid was a great animator: <a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/gold/profile/template.php3?id=943058' target='_blank'>http://www.newgrounds.com/gold/profile/tem....php3?id=943058</a>

    see target practice.

    And he had a LJ:
    <a href='http://www.livejournal.com/users/weise/' target='_blank'>http://www.livejournal.com/users/weise/</a>

    IMO, guns should be kept out of the reach of anyone who owns a LJ.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So in closing, the only thing this waste of flesh did right was to kill himself. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I think you're the least sympathetic, most assholeish, stuckup, inconsiderate, elitest little twit I have ever met. Marry me?
  • TrevelyanTrevelyan Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14834Members
    edited March 2005
    oh come on guys... holding this kid responsible??? WTH... surely there is SOMETHING out there we can blame?

    Video games?

    Guns?

    Rap/Rock n' roll?

    Lack of sex?

    Chocolate chip cookies?

    throw some ideas out there people! we need a new bandwagon...

    RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Trevelyan+Mar 25 2005, 04:23 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Trevelyan @ Mar 25 2005, 04:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> oh come on guys... holding this kid responsible??? WTH... surely there is SOMETHING out there we can blame?

    Video games?

    Guns?

    Rap/Rock n' roll?

    Lack of sex?

    Chocolate chip cookies?

    throw some ideas out there people! we need a new bandwagon...

    RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, there's 2 new targets.

    Newgrounds

    LJ


    I vote the latter. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    edited March 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gwahir+Mar 25 2005, 04:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gwahir @ Mar 25 2005, 04:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Testament, you like insulting people on a whim, fine.

    But it was a misinterpretation, because my statement was standalone and did not require the killer's opinion on it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How was that an insult? You said it yourself.

    (Who the hell is Grokk?)
  • Private_ColemanPrivate_Coleman PhD in Video Games Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7510Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Testament+Mar 24 2005, 11:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ Mar 24 2005, 11:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Gwahir+Mar 25 2005, 04:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gwahir @ Mar 25 2005, 04:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Testament, you like insulting people on a whim, fine.

    But it was a misinterpretation, because my statement was standalone and did not require the killer's opinion on it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How was that an insult? You said it yourself.

    (Who the hell is Grokk?) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A new member, perhaps?
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    edited March 2005
    It's really sad to read what he's written. Had he been fostered in an environment that could have taught him better, things wouldn't have been this way.

    Especially all those comments he makes about the death of Native Americans. You read it and find yourself nodding your head (on the topic of the Native American slaughters by early explorers) then you take a step back and realize that at some point he devalued his own life, which allowed him to devalue the lives of others.

    Child raising in this country (the U.S.) has just gone to **** these days.

    **EDIT** Damn, go read his last LJ post. He really did lose it. "Change", huh?
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Testament+Mar 24 2005, 11:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ Mar 24 2005, 11:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Gwahir+Mar 25 2005, 04:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gwahir @ Mar 25 2005, 04:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Testament, you like insulting people on a whim, fine.

    But it was a misinterpretation, because my statement was standalone and did not require the killer's opinion on it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How was that an insult? You said it yourself.

    (Who the hell is Grokk?) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I gave it as an unlikely option.

    You stated that I must not know and then stated the obvious, implying a lack of intelligence on my part.
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