<!--QuoteBegin-Dr.Suredeath+Oct 25 2004, 10:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr.Suredeath @ Oct 25 2004, 10:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> She can cheat as long as it's not with another guy.
Ii you think she is cheating why not buy <a href='http://sampanimportcompany.goemerchant2.com/sampanimportcompany/images/Pjba32cc.JPG' target='_blank'>these</a> and follow her. Or you could hire a private eye <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Or a good way to get someone to tell the truth is to wait until they are asleep and talk to them, works for me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ZunniThe best thing to happen to I&S in a long whileJoin Date: 2002-11-26Member: 10016Members
To be a little more serious..
Everyone has their own criteria..
Some people believe that that sharing an intimate look, or a wayward thought is cheating.
Others believe that it's a physical connection with another person.
Personally, I believe that every human being is going to be attracted to many people in his/her lifetime, and when there is an intimate touch (which can happen even while holding hands) is cheating..
<!--QuoteBegin-ThE HeRo+Oct 25 2004, 07:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ThE HeRo @ Oct 25 2004, 07:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I never imagined myself cheating on any of my girlfriends when I was little. When I actually began to get girlfriends, I've cheated on most of them.
What the hell is wrong with me? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Where to start...
coilAmateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance.Join Date: 2002-04-12Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
edited October 2004
If you don't feel completely comfortable telling your girlfriend what you've done, you've probably cheated on her. Cheating is doing something with someone else that your gf/bf would not want you doing with anyone but her/him.
There's a lot more to it -- intent, etc -- but that's a simple litmus test, in my opinion.
In other news: don't cheat. I lost the best thing that ever happened to me because I cheated on her. 6 years later, I'm still comparing new relationships to that one, and I've yet to find one that measures up. You better believe I learned my lesson.
antifreezeThe guy with the goods!Join Date: 2003-05-12Member: 16232Members, Constellation
I have always thought that cheeting is aweful. I do sorta agree with zunni though, but i dont think that holding hands is really cheating. Any further than that such as a kiss is cheating.
Although i do understand that people have varying criteria.
<!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+Oct 25 2004, 06:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Oct 25 2004, 06:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So basically coil your summing it up in this way....
"Cheating is like masturbation, it feels great for a while but is short-lived and makes you feel bad for a long time afterward......"
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You dissing on masturbation?
okayyy... lets say you have a bisexual ( sp ? ) gf... would it be wrong to feel abit bad when she sleeps with her friend ( female ) ( wich she had have sex with in the past, but now they're just good friends. )
<!--QuoteBegin-Hibame+Oct 25 2004, 06:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hibame @ Oct 25 2004, 06:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> im a good loyal slave... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Hah, thats how I think of myself...
ZunniThe best thing to happen to I&S in a long whileJoin Date: 2002-11-26Member: 10016Members
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->okayyy... lets say you have a bisexual ( sp ? ) gf... would it be wrong to feel abit bad when she sleeps with her friend ( female ) ( wich she had have sex with in the past, but now they're just good friends. )<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No... Regardless if it was a guy or a girl (though hotter), if you feel like it was inappropriate it was..
Had you had a conversation about this prior to this happening?
<!--QuoteBegin-SkinnY+Oct 25 2004, 06:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkinnY @ Oct 25 2004, 06:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> okayyy... lets say you have a bisexual ( sp ? ) gf... would it be wrong to feel abit bad when she sleeps with her friend ( female ) ( wich she had have sex with in the past, but now they're just good friends. ) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It depends whether it's a secret or not. She should probably ask first; not for permission, but out of respect. The man should ask his girlfriend in the same way if he's the bisexual. It's only polite.
<!--QuoteBegin-SkinnY+Oct 25 2004, 06:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkinnY @ Oct 25 2004, 06:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> okayyy... lets say you have a bisexual ( sp ? ) gf... would it be wrong to feel abit bad when she sleeps with her friend ( female ) ( wich she had have sex with in the past, but now they're just good friends. ) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Would she be mad if you were to sleep with said friend?
I really shouldn't be involved in this topic <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-SkinnY+Oct 25 2004, 06:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkinnY @ Oct 25 2004, 06:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> okayyy... lets say you have a bisexual ( sp ? ) gf... would it be wrong to feel abit bad when she sleeps with her friend ( female ) ( wich she had have sex with in the past, but now they're just good friends. ) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's only cheating if you don't get to join in.
How specifically do two girls have sex, I don't think you can say that two girls had sex. A man can have sex with a guy but I don't think it works the other way around. But I guess it really depends what you mean by having sex.
Back on topic, would u mind that much if your gf was in bed with another women that she knew? Better yet, would you feel bad if they invited you to join them? Now with another guy, I can completely understand but u gotta get your perspectives right here.
I feel that it's only a matter of time before we begin to Cyber now that lesbians and 3some have entered the field.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's only cheating if you don't get to join in. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Heck, It's only cheating if you don't get to watch.
Actually its kind of nice when after a decent session the girl is lying there looking angry and I ask, "What's the matter?" and she says, "I been with my bf for 3 years and it was never as great as THAT. What a waste..." I can proudly say that's happened a few times <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you feel guilty about what you're doing or having a second thought - I'd say it's something you may wish to iron out specifics with your significant other about. In general, I guess it's good for you guys to hammer out guidelines - my current guy and I are sort of working on specifics here and there.
If you don't think she should be doing it, talk to her. There's no such thing as a 'line' that she crosses for it to turn into 'cheating', it's either you're comfortable with it and it can continue, or you're not, and it should stop. So talk to her if you're not comfortable with it.
<!--QuoteBegin-relsan+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (relsan)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually its kind of nice when after a decent session the girl is lying there looking angry and I ask, "What's the matter?" and she says, "I been with my bf for 3 years and it was never as great as THAT. What a waste..." I can proudly say that's happened a few times <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So many things annoy me here i can't even begin. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-coil+Oct 25 2004, 11:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Oct 25 2004, 11:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you don't feel completely comfortable telling your girlfriend what you've done, you've probably cheated on her. Cheating is doing something with someone else that your gf/bf would not want you doing with anyone but her/him.
There's a lot more to it -- intent, etc -- but that's a simple litmus test, in my opinion.
In other news: don't cheat. I lost the best thing that ever happened to me because I cheated on her. 6 years later, I'm still comparing new relationships to that one, and I've yet to find one that measures up. You better believe I learned my lesson. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Aw poor coil. (Affectionate moment over).
I have to agree here, a key factor that I find gf/bf should be able to talk about is who they think is good looking and who they fancy from television programs etc. It also helps for you not to get jealous whenever your partner looks at someone with that "drool" word above their head, as will they understand your position when you have "drool" above your head.
Zig...I am Captain Planet!Join Date: 2002-10-23Member: 1576Members
i, personally, define a monogamous relationship (BISEXUALS OR NOT) as a MONOGAMOUS RELATIONSHIP.
one on one means <b>one on one</b>.
for instance, if i'm with a guy, and i fool around with this other girl.. and i'm supposed to be the guy's one and only.. then what the f* is that? you know it's cheating.
<!--QuoteBegin-jim has no skillz+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jim has no skillz)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How specifically do two girls have sex, I don't think you can say that two girls had sex. A man can have sex with a guy but I don't think it works the other way around. But I guess it really depends what you mean by having sex.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
sex is sex.. sex acts, oral <b>sex</b>, penetrative <b>sex</b>, phone <b>sex</b>... INTERCOURSE is the word you're looking for.
<!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Oct 26 2004, 05:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 26 2004, 05:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you don't think she should be doing it, talk to her. There's no such thing as a 'line' that she crosses for it to turn into 'cheating', it's either you're comfortable with it and it can continue, or you're not, and it should stop. So talk to her if you're not comfortable with it.
<!--QuoteBegin-relsan+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (relsan)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually its kind of nice when after a decent session the girl is lying there looking angry and I ask, "What's the matter?" and she says, "I been with my bf for 3 years and it was never as great as THAT. What a waste..." I can proudly say that's happened a few times <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So many things annoy me here i can't even begin. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Dont mock his e-**** <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
Anyways, cheating is when you do something that your partner A: Doesnt know about, B: Wouldnt want you to do in a sexual or intimate way. A+B = Cheating - Its that simple!
<!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Oct 26 2004, 06:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Oct 26 2004, 06:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> for instance, if i'm with a guy <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh zig.. oh zig.. please let me be that guy! I'll build you a phase gate, I'll give you a shotgun, I'll do anything! Please!
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Sorry, damn hormone.
Sorry, damn hormone. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol
Ii you think she is cheating why not buy <a href='http://sampanimportcompany.goemerchant2.com/sampanimportcompany/images/Pjba32cc.JPG' target='_blank'>these</a> and follow her. Or you could hire a private eye <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Or a good way to get someone to tell the truth is to wait until they are asleep and talk to them, works for me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Everyone has their own criteria..
Some people believe that that sharing an intimate look, or a wayward thought is cheating.
Others believe that it's a physical connection with another person.
Personally, I believe that every human being is going to be attracted to many people in his/her lifetime, and when there is an intimate touch (which can happen even while holding hands) is cheating..
What the hell is wrong with me?
What the hell is wrong with me? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Where to start...
There's a lot more to it -- intent, etc -- but that's a simple litmus test, in my opinion.
In other news: don't cheat. I lost the best thing that ever happened to me because I cheated on her. 6 years later, I'm still comparing new relationships to that one, and I've yet to find one that measures up. You better believe I learned my lesson.
Although i do understand that people have varying criteria.
I dont cheat for one its just not me and I belive it would take to much of a hastle in the end to get things right
"Cheating is like masturbation, it feels great for a while but is short-lived and makes you feel bad for a long time afterward......"
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
"Cheating is like masturbation, it feels great for a while but is short-lived and makes you feel bad for a long time afterward......"
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You dissing on masturbation?
Hah, thats how I think of myself...
"Cheating is like masturbation, it feels great for a while but is short-lived and makes you feel bad for a long time afterward......"
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You dissing on masturbation? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh ****, he wants to start somethin'.
EDIT: Snidley... rofl.
As for cheating, whatever's more than conversation.
No... Regardless if it was a guy or a girl (though hotter), if you feel like it was inappropriate it was..
Had you had a conversation about this prior to this happening?
It depends whether it's a secret or not. She should probably ask first; not for permission, but out of respect. The man should ask his girlfriend in the same way if he's the bisexual. It's only polite.
DUMP NOW!
Would she be mad if you were to sleep with said friend?
I really shouldn't be involved in this topic <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It's only cheating if you don't get to join in.
Back on topic, would u mind that much if your gf was in bed with another women that she knew? Better yet, would you feel bad if they invited you to join them? Now with another guy, I can completely understand but u gotta get your perspectives right here.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
It's only cheating if you don't get to join in. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Heck, It's only cheating if you don't get to watch.
coil's nailed it on the head, I think.
<!--QuoteBegin-relsan+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (relsan)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually its kind of nice when after a decent session the girl is lying there looking angry and I ask, "What's the matter?" and she says, "I been with my bf for 3 years and it was never as great as THAT. What a waste..." I can proudly say that's happened a few times <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So many things annoy me here i can't even begin. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
There's a lot more to it -- intent, etc -- but that's a simple litmus test, in my opinion.
In other news: don't cheat. I lost the best thing that ever happened to me because I cheated on her. 6 years later, I'm still comparing new relationships to that one, and I've yet to find one that measures up. You better believe I learned my lesson. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Aw poor coil. (Affectionate moment over).
I have to agree here, a key factor that I find gf/bf should be able to talk about is who they think is good looking and who they fancy from television programs etc. It also helps for you not to get jealous whenever your partner looks at someone with that "drool" word above their head, as will they understand your position when you have "drool" above your head.
one on one means <b>one on one</b>.
for instance, if i'm with a guy, and i fool around with this other girl.. and i'm supposed to be the guy's one and only.. then what the f* is that? you know it's cheating.
<!--QuoteBegin-jim has no skillz+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jim has no skillz)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How specifically do two girls have sex, I don't think you can say that two girls had sex. A man can have sex with a guy but I don't think it works the other way around. But I guess it really depends what you mean by having sex.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
sex is sex.. sex acts, oral <b>sex</b>, penetrative <b>sex</b>, phone <b>sex</b>... INTERCOURSE is the word you're looking for.
<!--QuoteBegin-relsan+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (relsan)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually its kind of nice when after a decent session the girl is lying there looking angry and I ask, "What's the matter?" and she says, "I been with my bf for 3 years and it was never as great as THAT. What a waste..." I can proudly say that's happened a few times <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So many things annoy me here i can't even begin. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dont mock his e-**** <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
Anyways, cheating is when you do something that your partner A: Doesnt know about, B: Wouldnt want you to do in a sexual or intimate way.
A+B = Cheating - Its that simple!
Oh zig.. oh zig.. please let me be that guy! I'll build you a phase gate, I'll give you a shotgun, I'll do anything! Please!