oh please, NS is SOOO an rip off of HLDM. you can't deny it! they both have.. maps.. and.. uhm. Grenade launchers! and SHOTGUNS! and.. they use computers.. and mice.. er. when you play a game.. it's a MATCH in ns.. just like HLD MATCH!
that's right, crumble before my ultra magnus-esque.. nay.. nay.. MY OMICRONIAN LOGIC AND PHALLANX OF POINTS AND COUNTER POINTS!
Flayra ripped off HLDM. I mean, both marines, aliens, and the characters in HLDM have TEETH. and ARMS. And they have CROSSHAIRS, and they can MOVE! freaking blatant ripoff, if you ask me.
The music was beautiful. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Aye, but the fact that he considers NS his friend, colleague and confidant sacres me.
Anyway, reading what those bastages did to Zunni has succeeded in making me positively furious.
ZunniThe best thing to happen to I&S in a long whileJoin Date: 2002-11-26Member: 10016Members
Don't lose any sleep over it, I didn't..
I just wanted the issue rectified, and actually had 1 person at Valve directly, and 1 forum admin contact me about getting it resolved..
So, it was an adventure, but I survived with no additional scrapes or bruises <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I just feel bad because I had a legit issue and just because I didn't know an email address I was flamed off the planet, it really doesn't showcase the Steamed Forums well <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But as I say, resolved, and my wife doesn't have to wake up to my screaming in my sleep anymore "Steamed FORUMS!!! GAHHH!!!"
But thanks for the support <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Oct 25 2004, 05:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Oct 25 2004, 05:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just feel bad because I had a legit issue and just because I didn't know an email address I was flamed off the planet, it really doesn't showcase the Steamed Forums well <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What are you talking about, it's a perfect example of that forum's standard mode of operation...
<!--QuoteBegin-Snidely+Oct 26 2004, 12:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Oct 26 2004, 12:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Even just talking about the Steam forums causes flames. See? This post is a bit of a flame as well. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> lol gg nub
You couldn't get me to take that job if you paid me. Getting you all whipped into shape was hard enough. That's like asking me to go op in #counterstrike. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> dont worry coil we wouldnt want you to leave for a week if you go to the steam forums then this place would be overrun by morons <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
/me attempts to run around like a moron and gets whipped back into place by coil <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Oct 25 2004, 05:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Oct 25 2004, 05:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Don't lose any sleep over it, I didn't..
I just wanted the issue rectified, and actually had 1 person at Valve directly, and 1 forum admin contact me about getting it resolved..
So, it was an adventure, but I survived with no additional scrapes or bruises <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I just feel bad because I had a legit issue and just because I didn't know an email address I was flamed off the planet, it really doesn't showcase the Steamed Forums well <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But as I say, resolved, and my wife doesn't have to wake up to my screaming in my sleep anymore "Steamed FORUMS!!! GAHHH!!!"
But thanks for the support <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I hope to God that non geeky internet people never stumble across there with legitimate complaints, suicides are likely to result.
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Oct 24 2004, 02:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Oct 24 2004, 02:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Windelkron+Oct 24 2004, 06:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Windelkron @ Oct 24 2004, 06:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ns has more players than TFC because TFC is a dying game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I like that one. So retaining a steady playerbase for six full years is dying? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteBegin-don't remember who said this+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (don't remember who said this)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->...In general lingo I feel that what determines the "health" of gamming community can be symbolized or related to the population of new players and dedicated players.
In otherwords: (new players) + (dedicated players) = (community size) = factor in a game's "health"
So for example, if there are more new players and the dedicated players are constant then the community is under new growth... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Decreasing new players as they all become dedicated/old but that dedicated population remains steady does not constitute a decline. If you have no newbies and your dedicated players are continuing to drop off, then the game is "dying." but in TFC's case:
few new players, constant dedicated population. The loss and gains are very slight and cancel each other out. Thus TFC's community health is best described as constant.
Therefore Windelkron is <span style='color:red'>incorrect</span>, and Nemesis Zero is <span style='color:green'>correct</span>, and hopefully you all learned something.
actually if you look closer, Windelkron was quoting the steam forums because he thought that was funny (that tfc was dying). Nem0 was agreeing that the idea was stupid.
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that's right, crumble before my ultra magnus-esque.. nay.. nay.. MY OMICRONIAN LOGIC AND PHALLANX OF POINTS AND COUNTER POINTS!
<a href='http://Natural-Selection.youaremyfriend.com/' target='_blank'>I <3 NS</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
WINNAR x100000
The music was beautiful. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Aye, but the fact that he considers NS his friend, colleague and confidant sacres me.
Anyway, reading what those bastages did to Zunni has succeeded in making me positively furious.
I just wanted the issue rectified, and actually had 1 person at Valve directly, and 1 forum admin contact me about getting it resolved..
So, it was an adventure, but I survived with no additional scrapes or bruises <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I just feel bad because I had a legit issue and just because I didn't know an email address I was flamed off the planet, it really doesn't showcase the Steamed Forums well <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But as I say, resolved, and my wife doesn't have to wake up to my screaming in my sleep anymore "Steamed FORUMS!!! GAHHH!!!"
But thanks for the support <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I just feel bad because I had a legit issue and just because I didn't know an email address I was flamed off the planet, it really doesn't showcase the Steamed Forums well <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What are you talking about, it's a perfect example of that forum's standard mode of operation...
lol gg nub
You couldn't get me to take that job if you paid me. Getting you all whipped into shape was hard enough. That's like asking me to go op in #counterstrike. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
dont worry coil we wouldnt want you to leave for a week if you go to the steam forums then this place would be overrun by morons <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
/me attempts to run around like a moron and gets whipped back into place by coil <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I just wanted the issue rectified, and actually had 1 person at Valve directly, and 1 forum admin contact me about getting it resolved..
So, it was an adventure, but I survived with no additional scrapes or bruises <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I just feel bad because I had a legit issue and just because I didn't know an email address I was flamed off the planet, it really doesn't showcase the Steamed Forums well <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But as I say, resolved, and my wife doesn't have to wake up to my screaming in my sleep anymore "Steamed FORUMS!!! GAHHH!!!"
But thanks for the support <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I hope to God that non geeky internet people never stumble across there with legitimate complaints, suicides are likely to result.
I like that one. So retaining a steady playerbase for six full years is dying? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-don't remember who said this+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (don't remember who said this)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->...In general lingo I feel that what determines the "health" of gamming community can be symbolized or related to the population of new players and dedicated players.
In otherwords: (new players) + (dedicated players) = (community size) = factor in a game's "health"
So for example, if there are more new players and the dedicated players are constant then the community is under new growth...
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Decreasing new players as they all become dedicated/old but that dedicated population remains steady does not constitute a decline. If you have no newbies and your dedicated players are continuing to drop off, then the game is "dying." but in TFC's case:
few new players, constant dedicated population. The loss and gains are very slight and cancel each other out. Thus TFC's community health is best described as constant.
Therefore Windelkron is <span style='color:red'>incorrect</span>, and Nemesis Zero is <span style='color:green'>correct</span>, and hopefully you all learned something.