Hey Devs, Fix Your Game.

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  • AzkarAzkar Join Date: 2003-07-16 Member: 18204Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Axel Stone+Oct 19 2004, 07:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Axel Stone @ Oct 19 2004, 07:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OMG, can someone lock this? I just wasted 3 minutes of my time hoping for something good. This thread/flamefest is perpetuated by someone who goes by what someone else says. Which BTW: I'll keep my opinions to myself about a few CAL admins. I know 1 personally that visits a LAN center/group down here hes great. Some of them are about as bright as a dead lightbulb when it comes to anything computer related.

    Azkar speak your own words, not someone elses, that shows true inteligence.

    I'm done here. Over and out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have been speaking my own words... except for when I've been talking about what the CAL admins say
  • slipknotkthxslipknotkthx Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 11016Members, Constellation
    I think what he means is to fix the ACTUAL GAME OF NS. NOT COMBAT.
  • AzkarAzkar Join Date: 2003-07-16 Member: 18204Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 07:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 07:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 06:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 07:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 07:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 05:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 05:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 06:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 05:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sorry, they lost people who LIKED to play their game, not just people that played for fun, but played seriously, I'd rather have people that take the game seriously and can give good feedback, than the random pubber that doesnt care what happens in the game. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    sooo, people who play FOR FUN dont like to play? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They dont really take it seriously, and they dont care much about the changes. Read the rest of my sentence next time before you respond please. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    remember that this is a BETA before you post a "Fix your Game" thread

    oh wait, its too late to tell you that <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You do know that 2.0 on steam is worse than 3.0? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    which means that 3.0 is BETTER, meaning they are improving the game <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Like I said before, they can do more in a release if they try not to get it done so fast.

    Quality > quantity
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    They added in the code for the "fixed" hitbox (that was commented out), so then in theory if this was the "bad game design" that caused the screenshot, wouldn't it already be fixed?
  • TheAdjTheAdj He demanded a cool forum title of some type. Join Date: 2004-05-03 Member: 28436Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Agreed with forlorn. I'd actually like to see a lot more work done on the server code to optimize it. It's insanely difficult to get a good solid NS server running with good FPS as compared to say CS. I understand totally that NS hacks up way more of the hl1 code than CS, but it's the most blatant example of changes. Hit registration in NS is SO slow compared to other games. You can fire at a sitting skulk, let go of the fire button, lastinv to another weapon, and then the skulk will die, and it was sitting totally still. That just seems rather odd to me that hit registration can take nearly a second even with low latency. The screenshot that started this thread is just an example of that. The opposing player had higher latency (It's a South American clan that prev is playing), but the shots in the demo are registering WAY behind the model. That shouldn't be happening, and I know that many people now fire behind skulks in order to register hits. I know I personally shoot the shotgun behind players now, so I actually catch their hitbox. I hope the hitbox code that was commented out does indeed fix many of the hit registration issues, because this is a serious issue in the competitive community, even if some of my fellow clan players manage to act like smacktards when they post.
  • NEO_PhyteNEO_Phyte We need shirtgons&#33; Join Date: 2003-12-16 Member: 24453Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 06:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 06:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 07:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 07:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 06:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 07:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 07:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 05:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 05:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 06:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 05:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sorry, they lost people who LIKED to play their game, not just people that played for fun, but played seriously, I'd rather have people that take the game seriously and can give good feedback, than the random pubber that doesnt care what happens in the game. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    sooo, people who play FOR FUN dont like to play? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They dont really take it seriously, and they dont care much about the changes. Read the rest of my sentence next time before you respond please. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    remember that this is a BETA before you post a "Fix your Game" thread

    oh wait, its too late to tell you that <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You do know that 2.0 on steam is worse than 3.0? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    which means that 3.0 is BETTER, meaning they are improving the game <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Like I said before, they can do more in a release if they try not to get it done so fast.

    Quality > quantity <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    3.0 is an Open Beta.

    this means that they let EVERYONE play it, but it isnt the final version, which means that they can make changes as they need to.

    would you prefer the closed-beta method, where we would still be playing 2.01 while they work out all of the bugs in 3.0?
  • PrimalPrimal Join Date: 2004-08-29 Member: 31008Members
    I see how it is now!
    I can see clearly now the rain is gone.
    I can see all teh obstiColZ in teh way.

    You know what,I think NS might be getting funnerer to play now since they released the cool new patch.All the cool kid skulks you want to shoot

    On the hitboxes are fixed subject - no pls.
    On the fix NS part - yes pls.
    Maybe making smaller games so alien biased :]

    YEAH STUFFz Like THAt ok!?

    ^___________________^

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  • The_IRSThe_IRS Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23798Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 07:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 07:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 06:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 06:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 07:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 07:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 06:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 07:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 07:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 05:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 05:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 06:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 05:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sorry, they lost people who LIKED to play their game, not just people that played for fun, but played seriously, I'd rather have people that take the game seriously and can give good feedback, than the random pubber that doesnt care what happens in the game. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    sooo, people who play FOR FUN dont like to play? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They dont really take it seriously, and they dont care much about the changes. Read the rest of my sentence next time before you respond please. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    remember that this is a BETA before you post a "Fix your Game" thread

    oh wait, its too late to tell you that <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You do know that 2.0 on steam is worse than 3.0? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    which means that 3.0 is BETTER, meaning they are improving the game <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Like I said before, they can do more in a release if they try not to get it done so fast.

    Quality > quantity <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    3.0 is an Open Beta.

    this means that they let EVERYONE play it, but it isnt the final version, which means that they can make changes as they need to.

    would you prefer the closed-beta method, where we would still be playing 2.01 while they work out all of the bugs in 3.0? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The bugs would be gone wouldn't they?
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    I like NS the way it is, thank you very much. While there are problems from time to time (seldom) I still have fun with the game itself. Bugs are riddled in every game, so, instructing the devs (very good people who work for free) to fix their game because of a bug is rude.
  • AzkarAzkar Join Date: 2003-07-16 Member: 18204Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 07:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 07:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 06:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 06:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 07:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 07:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 06:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 07:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 07:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 05:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 05:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 19 2004, 06:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 19 2004, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Azkar+Oct 19 2004, 05:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Azkar @ Oct 19 2004, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sorry, they lost people who LIKED to play their game, not just people that played for fun, but played seriously, I'd rather have people that take the game seriously and can give good feedback, than the random pubber that doesnt care what happens in the game. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    sooo, people who play FOR FUN dont like to play? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They dont really take it seriously, and they dont care much about the changes. Read the rest of my sentence next time before you respond please. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    remember that this is a BETA before you post a "Fix your Game" thread

    oh wait, its too late to tell you that <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You do know that 2.0 on steam is worse than 3.0? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    which means that 3.0 is BETTER, meaning they are improving the game <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Like I said before, they can do more in a release if they try not to get it done so fast.

    Quality > quantity <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    3.0 is an Open Beta.

    this means that they let EVERYONE play it, but it isnt the final version, which means that they can make changes as they need to.

    would you prefer the closed-beta method, where we would still be playing 2.01 while they work out all of the bugs in 3.0? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A closed beta with the CAL-NS community would be great.


    then the dev team wouldent feel rushed to come out with the next build, they could take their time
  • Lt.RealnessLt.Realness Join Date: 2004-03-17 Member: 27379Members
    @topic starter - never heard about the word "lag" ?
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    OK, I don't think this'll lead anywhere.
    You managed to open three consecutive cans of worms (Combat, Pubbers - Clanners, Steam), all three of which are prone to leading to flamefests, in one thread. Seeing the controversial nature of these topics and the speed with which you change between them, I doubt that any kind of resolution would be possible.

    So, I'll <span style='color:red'>***lock***</span> this. Feel free to make your point regarding our update policy, but:<ul><li>Stick to the community rules you agreed to when entering.</li><li>Forumlate your points. A screenshot alone won't make your case.</li><li>Take a little time to let this cool down.</li></ul>Thanks for your cooperation.
  • joevjoev Giving grief... With a smile. Join Date: 2002-07-20 Member: 977Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    FYI:

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83575' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...showtopic=83575</a>

    joev.
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