Martial Arts

illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">What style have you taken?</div> I'm currently a yellow belt in Jiujitsu, a sort of dream I've had ever since I was little. I absolutely love taking the style, and I have plans for taking other styles once I reach black belt status in Jiujitsu.

What styles are you taking/have you taken?

Also, keep "my style is best because ABC" flaming to a minimum. Every style has strengths and weaknesses (yes, even Aikido).

For those of you interested in Jiujitsu, (it can also be spelled Ju-jitsu, Jujitsu, Jiu Jitsu, etc.) it means "Gentle Art." It was developed for Samurai to use in the case that they were disarmed in battle. The style focuses on being well-rounded, and covers kicks, blocks, hand strikes, grappling, wrist techniques, chokes, defensive falling, etc. Since Samurai were going up against armored warriors, they needed a style that had throws and grappling as well as strikes to critical parts of the body.

Jiujitsu is sometimes called the "Granddaddy" of all martial arts, because it can be traced back form Japan to China to India. Modern defensive styles such as "Aikido" and "Judo" come from Jiujitsu masters who wanted to develop certain defensive aspects of Jiujitsu into entirely new styles.
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    I did karate when I was small for a couple of years, got up to green belt level.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I'm a yellow belt Shotokan Do Karateka, but gave up over the dismal quality of the club of the city I moved to a few years ago. Wanted to get into Aikido now that I'm studying, but since it collides with one of my most cruical lectures (media psychology), I'll have to wait at least a semester.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    a few years boxing (from age 10-14).. and i was lucky enough to receive some combat handgunning tutilage from my uncle.
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    Taekwondo, 2 years, Black Belt Cantidate.

    The school was an Americanized one, but the basic concepts were still the same.

    Then I took up the sword, I fence epee now.
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    I mixed and matched about 4 styles...works pretty well for me (Judo, taikwondo, some shotokan...)


    Too bad I can't spell the damn styles.
  • PerditionPerdition Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29692Members
    edited October 2004
    Tae Kwon Do, 10 years, black belt.

    Various other styles (Judo, Jujitsu, and Hapkido) mixed into that, for practical purposes, my Sensei was a great crosstrainer.

    At one point (around the end of my martial arts career) I got the chance to train under Chief Master Oren Gautreaux and (olympic medalist) Master Terry Gautreaux. It rocked.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I have a double yellow belt, but it's been so long since I've practiced (7 years, I believe) that I've forgotten what the style was. Perhaps my parents will know - I'll ask next time they call.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    4 years of Couch Potato technique.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Oct 14 2004, 03:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Oct 14 2004, 03:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 4 years of Couch Potato technique. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You still have much to learn then grasshopper.

    Blue belt in Tae Kwon Do, got sick of it really quickly when I realised that in a real fight, skill means virtually bugger all, you just have to hit the other guy as many times as you possibly can till he falls down.

    No, this wasn't a "real" fight, but rather my first (and last) tournament. They match people up by height and weight rather than by belt, and thus I ended up against a 17-year-old black-belt. I was 15 at the time. Oh, and he was also a blackbelt in kickboxing and in the process of learning Judo.

    If we hadn't been from the same group I have little doubt he would have KOed me with one hit.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    I trained Jiujitsu too, some years ago. Then I quit after yellow belt, as it simply... wasn't interesting enough for me to want to waste my precious time on. During that period I had learned the basics though, or so it would seem, so it wasn't for naught.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nil_IQ+Oct 14 2004, 04:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Oct 14 2004, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Blue belt in Tae Kwon Do, got sick of it really quickly when I realised that in a real fight, skill means virtually bugger all, you just have to hit the other guy as many times as you possibly can till he falls down. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah....I'm sorry, but I never want to be in a situation where I try to fight someone with kicks, and still end up getting the crap kicked outta me. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I'd rather just go down swinging - if I can't beat him that way, chances are I'm not winning even if I bring my legs into the equation. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    3 years rifle training you all lose <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    It's all very well learning martial arts, but have any of you actually put it to use in a fight situation?

    Have you ever used skill to take down someone who's heavier, taller, or stronger than you? This was my logic; so I simply exercise vigorously instead. Besdies, if you look huge, you're never going to need to fight.

    Edit:
    Ah yeah, rifles. Not that I carry firearms on a day-to-day basis, but I've won 3 medals in my child-hood for accuracy on a 200 yard range.
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-illuminex+Oct 14 2004, 02:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (illuminex @ Oct 14 2004, 02:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What styles are you taking/have you taken? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What I took was actually a hybrid of multiple styles: Goju, Kung Fu, and a little bit Tai-Chi.

    It has had a huge impact on my life and while I don't continue to go to the place where I got my 1st degree black belt I continue to practice my katas. My training in deep meditation has affected me to a level it is difficult to explain. In short karate has changed my life forever and I continue to try my best to live as the best karateman I can be, even though I don't give money to and dojo to do scheduled practices. Many of my life philosophies and morality comes from Karate and my meditation. (especially the bit about solving the conflict at the lowest cause rather prefering fighting, you failed if you ahd to resort to violence)

    PS: Since people like to talk about weapons I am quite well trained with the spear. (style very similar to bowstaff but now I can stab too) If I have time I would like to learn how to fight well with a katana and study some ninjitsu. Of the five cardinal animals I'm best in the unusual area: between dragon and snake.
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Oct 14 2004, 04:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Oct 14 2004, 04:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 3 years rifle training you all lose <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thus Grand Master Brown's favorite saying:

    "Kung Pow is not equal to Click Click Kapow."

    If you've ever seen the Last Samurai the ending battle is a reminder of this. (also why the philophy of karate is far more important than the combat skills)
  • ThE_HeRoThE_HeRo Join Date: 2003-01-25 Member: 12723Members
    Green (or Blue) in Karate. Oh yeah baby, don't **** with me.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-x5+Oct 14 2004, 02:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (x5 @ Oct 14 2004, 02:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Oct 14 2004, 04:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Oct 14 2004, 04:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 3 years rifle training you all lose  <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thus Grand Master Brown's favorite saying:

    "Kung Pow is not equal to Click Click Kapow."

    If you've ever seen the Last Samurai the ending battle is a reminder of this. (also why the philophy of karate is far more important than the combat skills) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    exactly that was like 3 guys with 2 weeks training to turn a little wheel taking out 80? samurai that spent their entire lives in training?
  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    edited October 2004
    I took some Tae Kwon Do when I was a kid, but I don't really remember any. It's a shame really; I got to be a first degree black belt and started learning how to fight with a staff (coolest. weapon. ever.). I'm far too out of shape now to try to get back into any fighting classes. In fact, my only martial arts related goal for the next four years is to get reasonably good at Soul Caliber and Tekken.
  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited October 2004
    The years I was in karate were the worst. years. of my life. ever. Biggest waste of time too, a gun immediately casts down all years of karate. The pull of a finger is more powerful than the strongest punch.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    ever heard of "Ya Spild MU Milk!" ? thats my kind of sport... sure miss the hours of dropping milk and kicking sand
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    I did Judo for a few months. Unless you are uber quick I can hardly see this working in a real situation. At least in other martial arts you get to punch and kick people <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    I really don't understand the point of martial arts - lets face it: in a real fight, they are not going to be attempting to score "points" by hitting you in the chest. They'll just headlock you bring you down and stomp on you while you're on the ground.

    Although, I took nearly 2 1/2 years of TaeKwonDo, which was pretty much useless.

    If you want, you can take the martial arts for exercise, though, they have some neat techniques for exercising, which will help you a lot. I mean, doesn't punching and kicking come naturally? What exactly do they teach you that's useful?
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    Personally the most use these Martial Arts can give you is probably discipline. Fight wise, they are not something to depend on. But they must be nice to know though.
  • PerditionPerdition Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29692Members
    That's why you need a practical, down to earth Master who is going to teach you the traditional ways, aswell as a new...realistic version of the martial art to beat the hell out of someone if they jump you.

    Such as, in Tae Kwon Do, you are taught high fancy kicks, my Sensei taught me these, he also made a very good point of teaching me that in a real fight, kick low...knees and groin area. He was a great instructor.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    this is why i am so looking forward to the Marine Corps martial arts program.. i want to learn all the most efficient methods of self defence and offense in actual modern hand to hand combat.. *droolish*
  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    My Sensei shows real world application for most things we learn. I'm a little unsure as to why people seem to think there is no application for something like jiu jitsu in a fight. We're not taught that we're invincible, but if you grab my wrist, or try to pick me up, be prepared to get some searing pain right before you keel over and I run the hell out of there.

    In children's martial arts, there is a much higher focus on the art form itself, instead of the martial portion. In adult classes, your focus is very much on the martial portion, probably around 60 % or so.

    Weight and body size also does not matter. A very tiny girl about half my size can throw me over her body from a standing position, and I've thrown a man twice my size before.

    And recently, in New Zealand, two black belts took down 5 muggers who didn't listen to their repeated warnings of "no, karate."

    It's just like anything else; if you're willing to work hard and practice, it's quite likely you will get good, and if someone attacks you, you will cause them serious harm before you scram.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I really don't understand the point of martial arts - lets face it: in a real fight, they are not going to be attempting to score "points" by hitting you in the chest. They'll just headlock you bring you down and stomp on you while you're on the ground.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I know two different ways of getting out of a headlock already. I'm not great at them, but if you get me in one, don't expect me to be in there for long.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I mean, doesn't punching and kicking come naturally? What exactly do they teach you that's useful? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    How about how to punch and kick so you cause maximum damage to your opponent while minimizing damage to yourself in the process. How about getting to use combinations of punches/kicks so that you develop an ability to use your whole body to defend yourself.
  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Perdition Flamethrower+Oct 14 2004, 06:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Perdition Flamethrower @ Oct 14 2004, 06:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Such as, in Tae Kwon Do, you are taught high fancy kicks, my Sensei taught me these, he also made a very good point of teaching me that in a real fight, kick low...knees and groin area. He was a great instructor. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And then the gun comes out, utterly ripping you and your flesh to shreds, making quick work of your groin.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Oct 14 2004, 04:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Oct 14 2004, 04:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 3 years rifle training you all lose <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    barret nub..... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Anyways, I've got no martial arts training (well, I took some karate and tae kwon do, but I stopped pretty quickly. It just seemed too geared to kids....). But I've got a friend who is a 2nd degree blackbelt in karate. Now, I've never seen him in a real fight, but I have seen him spar, not to mention the weapons training. He loves his weapons man....throwing stars, throwing knives, nunchuks (yes I know I can't spell, sue me), katanas, bo staffs. Awesome stuffs.

    As for the gun scenario: the odds of someone pulling a knife on you or just trying to kick your **** are probably a hell of a lot higher than the odds of someone pulling a gun on you.
    If you know martial arts, you know how to defend against a knife, bat, or punch.
    If you don't, then you'll probably still do okay if you're strong and quick enough.

    Alternatively, if you know martial arts, there's a slight chance you might be able to use it on a guy with a gun. Worst case, you're a little calmer because of your training with a gun pointed at your head, so you don't do anything stupid. And the guy without the training isn't any better off.... So to say martial arts is useless in a fight when the only time it's useless is a rare situation is kinda stupid. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • torquetorque Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20035Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I started taekwondo at five or six, and supplemented it with some hapkido and judo. Promoted to first-dan black belt in taekwondo, at which point I stopped rank advancement to become an instructor. I also had some informal practice with a naginata, but I'm not sure if that really applies as a 'style.'

    I'm not sure I liked the styles so much in comparison to others (I have an interest in taking up Tai Chi Q'uan, actually), but it was good for my body and I think I did learn discipline and respect from it. ^^
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Oct 14 2004, 01:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Oct 14 2004, 01:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 4 years of Couch Potato technique. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I started that at 4, when I first beat Zelda. Continued to improve my skill until I moved to Comp Chair Status.

    How many belts are there? And what belt do Ken and Ryu have?
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