Finally Installed Firefox

im_lost · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 10 2004, 12:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> and if firefox is sooooo great, why does it need plugins? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
If all of the plugins were installed by default, the program would be huge and bloated. Nobody wants all of the plugins, but having them available makes Firefox customizable.

RuBy · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Oct 10 2004, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> [QUOTE=RuBy,Oct 10 2004, 10:37 AM] [QUOTE]
As I started using Adblock, I started thinking of things on a bigger scale. If Firefox blocks the ad from loading, does that mean that the company doesn't get paid for you viewing the ad on their site (in other words, does it track whether or not the ad is actually loaded when the page is visited)? If it does, and if a decent number of people actually start using adblocking stuff, then the internet could be completely changed. Sites that depend on advertisements to stay in business (like Google) would not have any source of income, causing them to go out of business.

Then again, I could be overlooking something really simple, or simply overthinking the situation. Anyway, those are my thoughts.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Yes that point has been mentionned before. Personally I never click on ads anyway so I don't feel like I'm contributing to the destruction of the Internet by hiding them.

CrystalSnake · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mullet @ Oct 10 2004, 09:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person here who uses IE, and has absolutely no problems with it. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Please continue using IE.
Do not switch to Firefox.

As long as the majority uses IE, virus writers will concentrate their efforts on IE, and other browsers will remain relatively safe.

NEO_Phyte · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CrystalSnake @ Oct 10 2004, 02:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mullet @ Oct 10 2004, 09:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person here who uses IE, and has absolutely no problems with it. <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Please continue using IE.
Do not switch to Firefox.

As long as the majority uses IE, virus writers will concentrate their efforts on IE, and other browsers will remain relatively safe.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
note to self: write Firefox virii

DragonMech · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Duff-Man @ Oct 10 2004, 11:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Oct 10 2004, 11:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Tools > themes > get more themes. You can make Firefox look pretty sweet doing that.

Enjoy. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I'm using Noia 2.0, it's simple but really cool looking.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Noia 2.0 eXtreeme FTW. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

Dr_Shaggy · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 10 2004, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> and if firefox is sooooo great, why does it need plugins? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
And if Half-Life is sooooo great, why does it need mods?

Don't be ignorant.

NEO_Phyte · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr_Shaggy @ Oct 10 2004, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 10 2004, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> and if firefox is sooooo great, why does it need plugins? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
And if Half-Life is sooooo great, why does it need mods?

Don't be ignorant.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
who said anything about ignorance?

Epidemic · October 2004

What's the plugin that allows the last page displayed before closing down become the start up page <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />?

TychoCelchuuu · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 10 2004, 05:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr_Shaggy @ Oct 10 2004, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 10 2004, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> and if firefox is sooooo great, why does it need plugins? <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
And if Half-Life is sooooo great, why does it need mods?

Don't be ignorant. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
who said anything about ignorance?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Don't be ignorant.

NEO_Phyte · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Oct 10 2004, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 10 2004, 05:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr_Shaggy @ Oct 10 2004, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 10 2004, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> and if firefox is sooooo great, why does it need plugins? <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
And if Half-Life is sooooo great, why does it need mods?

Don't be ignorant. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
who said anything about ignorance? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Don't be ignorant.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
/me slaps TychoCelchuuu with the <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /> emoticon

DOOManiac · October 2004

I have 17 plug-ins, and they are all 100% essential:

<b>mini-IT</b>: Lets you drag & drop tabs to reorder them!
<b>DOM Inspector</b>: You only need this if you're a web developer
<b>IE View</b>: Come across a page that sucks and doesn't work in Firefox? This puts a new item in the bottom of the context menu to open the current url into IE. Pretty handy if you're lazy like me.
<b>FLST</b>: Focus Last Tab Selected. Whenever you close a tab, it goes back to the one you had selected before, whichever that one was.
<b>MozFBRH</b>: I honestly forget what this one does. Something w/ tabbed browsing I think.
<b>Duplicate Tab</b>: Opens a second copy of the same tab.
<b>Flashblock</b>: As mentioned before, this one makes all flash things require you to cilck on them. Wonderful when viewing Gamespy or something. The new version has a whitelist too for sites like weebls.
<b>Tabbrowser Preferences</b>: The most essential tab-related plug-in, this one lets you tweak the behavior of external links and middle clicking and etc.
<b>Things They Left Out</b>: Adds more options w/o tweaking the chrome files.
<b>Undoclosetab</b>: Ever close a tab only to realize you didn't want to? This plug-in opens it back up.
<b>ChromEdit: </b>Nifty tool to quickly edit the chrome files
<b>Show Old Extensions</b>: Displays pre-.9 extensions in the extension viewer. Handy
<b>Tab X</b>: Puts an 'X' on each tab for easy closing.
<b>Disable Targets For Downloads</b>: Don't you hate downloads that open to about:blank, leaving a new window/tab there that's useless? This plug-in strips out the "target" part of a link for files like .xls and .zip and whatever so you don't have this problem.
<b>Web Developer</b>: If you do HTML/PHP/CSS/whatever, you MUST get this. You will love it.
<b>CuteMenus</b>: Adds icons to the menu & context menu
<b>BBCode</b>: Everyone on these forums should have this. It puts a new context menu into all TEXTAREA's that lets you quickly add BBCode. Much better than the usual javascript buttons.

In addition to regular plug-ins, I've customized my userChrome.css to make all my menu's look like Office XP's menus. It looks very slick and I recommend that if you're using the default theme, give it a try:
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (userChrome.css)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
/*===============================================*/
/* Office XP style Menus*/
/*===============================================*/
/* Menu border and background */
menupopup, popup {
-moz-border-top-colors: #666666 !important;
-moz-border-left-colors: #666666 !important;
-moz-border-right-colors: #666666 !important;
-moz-border-bottom-colors: #666666 !important;
padding: 1px !important;
border: 1px solid !important;
background-color: #F9F8F7 !important;
background-image: url(menuback.gif) !important;
background-repeat: repeat-y !important;
}
/* Give all Menu items a 1px invisible border */
menu, menuitem
{
border: 1px solid transparent !important;
}

/* Open Main Menu Effect */
menubar > menu[_moz-menuactive="true"][open="true"]{
border: 1px solid #666666 !important;
border-bottom: #DBD8D1 !important;
background-color: #DBD8D1 !important;
}
/* Menu Seperator */
menuseparator {
margin-left: 20px !important;
margin-right: 0px !important;
}
/* Enabled Menus on mouseover */
menubar > menu[_moz-menuactive="true"],
menupopup > menu[_moz-menuactive="true"],
popup > menu[_moz-menuactive="true"],
menuitem[_moz-menuactive="true"] {
color: MenuText !important;
background-color: #B6BDD2 !important; /* Highlight background colour */
border: 1px solid #0A246A !important; /* Highlight border colour */
}
/* Disabled Menus on mouseover */
menu[disabled="true"][_moz-menuactive="true"],
menuitem[disabled="true"][_moz-menuactive="true"] {
color: GrayText !important;
background: transparent !important;
border: 1px solid transparent !important;
}
/* Autocomplete popups use white background */
popup[type="autocomplete"], listbox {
background-color: -moz-Field !important;
background-image: none !important;
}</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Also, if you want IE5 style autocompletes (inside the URL bar rather than a window), put this in user.js:
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (user.js)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>user_pref("browser.urlbar.autoFill", true);</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

LeetVegeTa · October 2004

Foxy-Tunes
a must have if you listen to music while browsing. adds a toolbar to your status bar that controls your music player. works with winamp, iTunes, WMP, musicmatch, etc.

<a href='http://www.iosart.com/foxytunes/firefox/' target='_blank'>http://www.iosart.com/foxytunes/firefox/</a>

Crono5 · October 2004

MOUSE GESTURES

Clashen · October 2004

DOOMEH, mind shoing a picture of your Office-look? :o

ThE_HeRo · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Clashen @ Oct 10 2004, 05:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> DOOMEH, mind shoing a picture of your Office-look? :o  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Yeah, sounds interesting.

Dr_Shaggy · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 10 2004, 08:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr_Shaggy @ Oct 10 2004, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 10 2004, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> and if firefox is sooooo great, why does it need plugins? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
And if Half-Life is sooooo great, why does it need mods?

Don't be ignorant. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
who said anything about ignorance?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I searched, it was me, and then Tycho.

NEO_Phyte · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr_Shaggy @ Oct 10 2004, 05:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 10 2004, 08:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr_Shaggy @ Oct 10 2004, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 10 2004, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> and if firefox is sooooo great, why does it need plugins? <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
And if Half-Life is sooooo great, why does it need mods?

Don't be ignorant. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
who said anything about ignorance? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I searched, it was me, and then Tycho.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
/me slaps Dr_Shaggy with the <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /> emoticon as well

EEK · October 2004

I don't even use tabs. I either click the link with mouse 1 and it opens in the window, click the link with shift - mouse 1 and open a new window, ctrl - mouse1 and open a tab, or click with mouse 3 and open in a tab. Then I either use alt-tab to switch, ctrl-tab, or click the start bar on bottom to switch, or click the tab bar to switch, and alt-tab works a lot better... Tabs is just a start bar on top that uses an obnoxious button to put links into. Not to mention tab-switching with ctrl-tab has an asinine way of switching through them that makes no sense at all. 'X'ing out of tabs for some reason seems to close them in a random order.

Talk about an overhyped feature. The only time I use tabs is on my roomates mac because I have no idea how the hell that OS works.

NeonSpyder · October 2004

i installed a couple of the extensions i hadn't heard about before and lo and behold Explorer stops working, not internet explorer i mean.

i'm talking about "my compuer" y'know the neat lil' thing that lets you access your harddrives? -_- everytime i click it to open windows it has some kind of mini-seizure and has to restart explorer, closing all open windows *except* firefox.

so at least i can surf the net to find out what the hell i did wrong <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

**update**

great, i can't even open up the control panel to do a system restore, ah well. i geuss i'll have to do it manually <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

...uh, if i dont come back to the forums.... well, just wait longer.

DOOManiac · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ThE HeRo @ Oct 10 2004, 04:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Clashen @ Oct 10 2004, 05:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> DOOMEH, mind shoing a picture of your Office-look? :o </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Yeah, sounds interesting.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Here you go:

Epidemic · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NeonSpyder @ Oct 11 2004, 02:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i installed a couple of the extensions i hadn't heard about before and lo and behold Explorer stops working, not internet explorer i mean.

i'm talking about "my compuer" y'know the neat lil' thing that lets you access your harddrives? -_- everytime i click it to open windows it has some kind of mini-seizure and has to restart explorer, closing all open windows *except* firefox.

so at least i can surf the net to find out what the hell i did wrong <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

**update**

great, i can't even open up the control panel to do a system restore, ah well. i geuss i'll have to do it manually <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

...uh, if i dont come back to the forums.... well, just wait longer.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
You CAN access your hardrives via firefox..

NeonSpyder · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You CAN access your hardrives via firefox..</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

whoa, news to me.

anyways, turns out applications work fine, its just windows components that crash when i try to use them, run, search, explorer, IE (not that i use it anyways)

turns out i picked up a ton of spyware/malware when picking up some extensions... makes me feel dirty...

hmm, cleaning up the mess isn't a problem but i dont know if i'll be able to get explorer to work again +_+

**edit**

DEAR LORD! i can't even open the recycle bin! :O

Crono5 · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Oct 10 2004, 06:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I don't even use tabs. I either click the link with mouse 1 and it opens in the window, click the link with shift - mouse 1 and open a new window, ctrl - mouse1 and open a tab, or click with mouse 3 and open in a tab. Then I either use alt-tab to switch, ctrl-tab, or click the start bar on bottom to switch, or click the tab bar to switch, and alt-tab works a lot better... Tabs is just a start bar on top that uses an obnoxious button to put links into. Not to mention tab-switching with ctrl-tab has an asinine way of switching through them that makes no sense at all. 'X'ing out of tabs for some reason seems to close them in a random order.

Talk about an overhyped feature. The only time I use tabs is on my roomates mac because I have no idea how the hell that OS works.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I use MOUSE GESTURES!

Ctrl + Mouse3 to open a link in a new tab

Gesture : Up-Left/Up-Right to go to the previous/next tab, respectively.

Gesture : Down-Right to close the current tab, or if there's no other tabs, the window.

Works very well.

Though it still leaves the buttons being huge.

Zel · October 2004

Chrono, you can change the gestures settings with "all in one gestures" so you can define your own.

i prefer down to be close tab, and up to be open a link in a new background-tab. its really so fast i can hit every link across a news article behind the news article, so that they load and when im finished i can read them each or close them just as fast with a series of downs.

Crono5 · October 2004

I know, I've got some of my own customized, too.

jumpingjoda · October 2004

<b>downTHEMall</b>: Searches for jpeg,gif,... zip, rar,... well, all kinds of files and then you can download them all by pressing a button!

And the most ULTIMATE extension !!!
If you are like me, uploading something from time to time via ftp, then this is your cure.
Ladies and gentlemen, i present you
<b>fireFTP</b>: DUN DUN DUUUUN! Just click a button and you have a firefox ftp client.
Life is sweet.

NeonSpyder · October 2004

hurrah for firefox, how much do i love thee? let me count the ways.

1. breaks my computer.
2. is really really neat.

gah! i can't figure this out, its like a part of the shell is currupted. i cant open any aspect of explorer.exe without it crashing on me.

can anyone suggest anything? i can't get into the control panel to system restore, and restoring from DOS to my last known good configuration just kicks me back to a time when my video card drivers were messed up and i needed to re-install the drivers or be stuck with 4 colours -_-

and it still didnt work!!!

/me begs for mercy to the mighty computer gods (excluding Romero, the dark lord of gaming)

**edit** if anyone suggests something that works i'll become your vassel for one month <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />

jumpingjoda · October 2004

Some evil sites have recognised that more and more people have firefox, so they wrote evilish lines of code to harm us. I think you installed some *extension* which was not form the officiall extension site. NEVER EVER INSTALL SOME *EXTENSION* FROM AN UNKNOWN SITE. If you obey this you will be fine.

Yumosis · October 2004

Yeah, firefox rules.

Crono5 · October 2004

Your sig... >_>

Finally Installed Firefox

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