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  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Perdition Flamethrower+Oct 9 2004, 07:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Perdition Flamethrower @ Oct 9 2004, 07:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Oct 9 2004, 05:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 9 2004, 05:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, seeing as we're all so eager to do that. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    the myg0ts are really cool if you ignore the fact that they're asshats all the time. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah....the sad thing is I didn't change the jist of your quote, I just added meaning. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Just because you don't happen to give a **** when someone messes with your game, you think they're funny? You know what you sound like? Some middle-school **** that laughs at a kid who just got, for instance, his playing cards thrown in the trash can for no reason whatsoever. I don't give a flying **** that if some kid throws your cards in the trash can, you just walk away laughing at how cool that kid is, that he can do **** you can't because he's bigger (bigger = he has hax, in case you're not following the metaphor). It's still not funny. Not.even.close. You think that's funny, okay fine, imagine something you like doing in real life (I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you actually have a life). Now imagine some stranger coming out of nowhere and preventing you from doing it. Would you really laugh it off? I think not. Right now I think you're full of it; acting like these guys are funny as hell and everyone else is too uptight. I didn't know sadism was so hysterical <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Apparently you don't get spanked very often
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    CWAG, your postcount has been reset. You can stop spamming now. In fact, I'd even go so far as encouraging you to stop it.

    -- Basically, these guys get their kicks out of annoying other people. Very 12 year old-ish, isn't it? And some of you [perdition, namely] suck up to them and encourage them. So we have a few 12 year olds, and a group of 5 year olds egging them on. Then we have the nerdy 17 year olds who can throw together some code to exploit the problems in software designed to give enjoyment to people.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Oct 9 2004, 09:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 9 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CWAG, your postcount has been reset. You can stop spamming now. In fact, I'd even go so far as encouraging you to stop it.

    -- Basically, these guys get their kicks out of annoying other people. Very 12 year old-ish, isn't it? And some of you [perdition, namely] suck up to them and encourage them. So we have a few 12 year olds, and a group of 5 year olds egging them on. Then we have the nerdy 17 year olds who can throw together some code to exploit the problems in software designed to give enjoyment to people. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    First of all you aren't a moderator so don't pretend to be one, second of all I really don't see how replying to what he said is spam, and its not of your concern.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    Moderator? Nothing to do with being a moderator. I just find it annoying, coming into a thread and seeing about 10 of the posts being your negative, unconstructive mini-replies.

    Personally I hate myg0t, Japs, etc. Normal cheating is bad enough, but when you go out of your way to make other people miserable, that's just sinking too low.
  • TheCheeseStandsAloneTheCheeseStandsAlone Join Date: 2003-10-18 Member: 21768Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Oct 9 2004, 09:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 9 2004, 09:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Moderator? Nothing to do with being a moderator. I just find it annoying, coming into a thread and seeing about 10 of the posts being your negative, unconstructive mini-replies.

    Personally I hate myg0t, Japs, etc. Normal cheating is bad enough, but when you go out of your way to make other people miserable, that's just sinking too low. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It does, I find his posts (for the most part) pretty funny, and if the mods did do something like perma-banned I'd be very dissapointed. Granted his replies today have been a little spammy (Bored day off work or something? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->) But even then eediot, you do not magically become the judge of whats quality and what isn't.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Oct 9 2004, 09:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 9 2004, 09:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Personally I hate myg0t, Japs, etc. Normal cheating is bad enough, but when you go out of your way to make other people miserable, that's just sinking too low. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just to make sure....."Japs" is some group of people who think they're 1337 hackers too, yes? As in negatory with the racism?
  • CartiCarti Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18099Members, Constellation
    Already? hahahahahaha
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    edited October 2004
    Let's stop derailing this thread, but to just defend my actions:

    1) It was not passing judgement. Everybody's entitled to an opinion. I hold the opinion that CWAG is spammy, arrogant, and pretentious.
    2) I am not a moderator. I was not trying to be a moderator. I was voicing my opinion, not condemning him or starting a war. I don't want this thread locked because you guys like to throw your opinions and loud mouths everywhere but can't take anything in return.

    And yes, "JAPS" is a cheating clan. It wasn't a racist term, sorry.

    Edit: Let's just leave this. Get back to the topic on hand.

    How does VAC work? Are all games as inherently insecure as counterstrike, but it's just CS's popularity and type of playerbase that marks it as such a hub of cheating, or what?
  • TheCheeseStandsAloneTheCheeseStandsAlone Join Date: 2003-10-18 Member: 21768Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Oct 9 2004, 09:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 9 2004, 09:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Let's stop derailing this thread, but to just defend my actions:

    1) It was not passing judgement. Everybody's entitled to an opinion. I hold the opinion that CWAG is spammy, arrogant, and pretentious.
    2) I am not a moderator. I was not trying to be a moderator. I was voicing my opinion, not condemning him or starting a war. I don't want this thread locked because you guys like to throw your opinions and loud mouths everywhere but can't take anything in return.

    And yes, "JAPS" is a cheating clan. It wasn't a racist term, sorry.

    Edit: Let's just leave this. Get back to the topic on hand.

    How does VAC work? Are all games as inherently insecure as counterstrike, but it's just CS's popularity and type of playerbase that marks it as such a hub of cheating, or what? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I hold the opinion that CWAG is spammy, arrogant, and pretentious.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I was voicing my opinion<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't want this thread locked because you guys like to throw your opinions<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Oct 9 2004, 09:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Oct 9 2004, 09:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Oct 9 2004, 09:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 9 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CWAG, your postcount has been reset. You can stop spamming now. In fact, I'd even go so far as encouraging you to stop it.

    -- Basically, these guys get their kicks out of annoying other people. Very 12 year old-ish, isn't it? And some of you [perdition, namely] suck up to them and encourage them. So we have a few 12 year olds, and a group of 5 year olds egging them on. Then we have the nerdy 17 year olds who can throw together some code to exploit the problems in software designed to give enjoyment to people. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    First of all you aren't a moderator so don't pretend to be one, second of all I really don't see how replying to what he said is spam, and its not of your concern. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Say, how do you become a restricted member? You fall for trollbait. You can do better CWAG. Don't bother with directionless and pointless arguments that have no basis.

    Eediot, dude, why judge? Who knows what he meant by that original post, he sure as heck was as vague as can be. But even if that is the case, why bother to interpret?

    Guys, myg0t has always been about being the "bully" online. There is no "Well if you are affected by them then they are 'winning' " ok. If they can tick off someone they get a thrill from it, and possibly create a flash animation detailing what happened, as they have before. If they can't they go on.

    The point is, you have to go and make the effort, when it comes to infested games like this, to find protected communities. We have already seen one posted here, and chances are there will be countless others. But going around pubbing on games like these is a fast way to frustrate yourself.

    Perdition, just because you aren't the one taking it up the **** doesn't mean you should sit back and have a good laugh. Perhaps these myg0t guys are fun to hang around that's fine. Just as long as you don't hang around them because you like to play sycophant and laugh at all the people caught in the crossfire because they whined at the wrong time.
  • PerditionPerdition Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29692Members
    What myg0t does is hilarious, and the person who was talking about morality...I don't let those sort of things come into my gaming.

    I've managed to draw a line between real life, and my video games.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    Y'know perdition the old 'I know the difference between games and reality' or similar is kinda old and almost always mistaken in it's use as in here;

    You play games with real people. The <b>people</b> (not the game here, keep with me) are being jerks. These are <b>real people</b> being <b>real jerks</b>.
    I don't care if they're doing it in a multiplayer game by cheating, doing it on a beach by kicking people's sandcastles over or doing it in some other way but the jist of the matter is they are doing something with the aim of getting under people's skin. I dunno if you noticed this but that's actually not a nice thing to do and violates the whole... oh I dunno... 'not being a total freaking moron and act like you have a modicum of frigging empathy/understanding' part of civilised life.

    Good chances are the jerks online are idiots offline; maybe not in the same way but the mental processes are still firing in the same brain.

    Luckily I can draw the line between excuses and living up to responsibility and the impact of actions on others a lot better than you can define games and reality huh? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • PerditionPerdition Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29692Members
    I doubt the myg0t kids would really try to hack you in real life Geminosity.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    ~takes point, folds it into a pretty paper airplane and flys it right over perditions head like it's already done judging by the post above~
  • PerditionPerdition Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29692Members
    Geminosity, you aren't as smart, or funny as you think you are.

    Hackers and online jerkoffs arent the same way in real life, trust me. I seriously doubt that someone who messes with you in a video game, just to see you scream like an infant, is really going to do that to someone in real life. If a hacker kills me in a video game, oh God, it's really the end of the world. So what if its the same person on and off line, that doesn't mean they are going to act the same on and off of the computer.

    I know i'm a completely different person when i'm not at my computer.
  • wascally_wabbitwascally_wabbit Join Date: 2003-09-09 Member: 20701Members
    Yes she(?) is (=

    I actually laughed at her post, one of the few I've gotten today <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    On the whole cheater debate thingy: Assuming I ever cheated (never have, don't ever plan on it), this would be where I'd get my kicks: I'm screwing with people, and getting them **** off, and they can't touch me (=

    Of course, that's just me... who knows what's going through myg0t's mind.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Perdition Flamethrower+Oct 9 2004, 10:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Perdition Flamethrower @ Oct 9 2004, 10:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I know i'm a completely different person when i'm not at my computer. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Let's hope so, cause <i>right now</i> you have the air of the kid who laughs when retarded children get pushed around by some idiot. I'm thinking you don't intend to come off that way though.

    Ignoring all trivialities within Gem's post, the basic point is this: On-line and Off-line there is a difference yes, but not in the way you choose to conduct yourself, because the results can be and often are the same.

    As a recap >>

    Your Point >> It's the internet, none of it is real.
    Your opposition >> What occurs may be virtual, but the intentions of the people who commit the "crime" (metaphorically speaking), and the resultant, remain real.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    edited October 2004
    I wasn't aware that I was trying to be funny or smart... I just thought you were being silly and irksome? o.O

    Anyways, you're still missing the point and I suspect you always will.
    I'll try again though because I'm stubborn...
    ~puts on teacher's hat thingy~


    <b>"Good chances are the jerks online are idiots offline; maybe not in the same way but the mental processes are still firing in the same brain."</b>

    Note that I said 'maybe not in the same way'. This is where we come back to the 'division' of net and real-life. You may <b>act</b> differently online than from real-life and vice versa but does the actual person (you) typing on the keyboard change any? Not really. The net is just a place with a different set of rules; because you know you can and can't get away with things here that work differently in the real-life you're probably go about an alternative way of interacting here but the actions are merely an extention of your original and unchanged personality.
    It's like dreams; the dreamer doesn't change they just act out things they would never normally do because things made it impossible or had bad repurcussions in real-life... the barrier comes back when you hit good old RL again but the motivations and feelings still remain.


    Now... are you feeling any smarter or funnier? Or are you still going to justify the unjust actions of others? =P



    <b>edit:</b> awww... nite posted faster than me. Meanie! XD
    ~gives me23 a cookie~
  • GreedoGreedo Bounty Hunter Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 37Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Okay, this thread's gone on long enough, and is getting far too hot.

    I can't belive that anyone would even attempt to justify rager/hacker behavior as not being a bad thing. ::boggle::
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