Cs:s... ?

CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">Woop de friggin do?</div> Ok, I realize the source engine pwnd j00, but... CS:S is just normal CS w/ physics and pretty water... What's the big deal?

The only thing I can see is it will attract a lot of former CS players and get them to spend $$ on Valve's new toy.

Personally, I don't see the point in CS:S, now, if it were, say all new, completly re-designed, new maps/gameplay modes, and took advantage of the HL2 engine, rather than a strait port of the orrginal CS, then yea... But I don't get it...

please asplain to mah...
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  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    Did you even play the beta?
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  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    Easily. If I gave you the choice of playing NS or playing NS with the source engine, which would you choose?

    ...

    Exactly.
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  • BizZy_9mm_MessiahBizZy_9mm_Messiah Old School Member Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18411Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Oct 4 2004, 04:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Oct 4 2004, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Easily. If I gave you the choice of playing NS or playing NS with the source engine, which would you choose?

    ...

    Exactly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lollerskates.
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  • XenoXeno Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2343Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Oct 4 2004, 09:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Oct 4 2004, 09:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Easily. If I gave you the choice of playing NS or playing NS with the source engine, which would you choose?

    ...

    Exactly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    owned him good. lol.
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  • ZyndromeZyndrome Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14974Members
    Summary:
    CS-players + changes made to the game = the CS-community explodes in a fury of "OMG WHINE WHINE WE WANT OLD VERSION BACK FFS!!!"
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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Oct 4 2004, 03:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Oct 4 2004, 03:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Easily. If I gave you the choice of playing NS or playing NS with the source engine, which would you choose?

    ...

    Exactly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Um, I'd much much much rather have NS2, I've played NS, I love it, but the point in porting it is?
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Oct 4 2004, 11:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Oct 4 2004, 11:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Easily. If I gave you the choice of playing NS or playing NS with the source engine, which would you choose?

    ...

    Exactly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you gave me NS or the exact same NS on the source engine for a full game's cost, I'd chose current NS.

    Except of course, I'd believe physics have a lot more to gain in NS than in CS.
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  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    Im not certain that I could describe why, but I find Cs:s to be a lot more fun than regular cs. Might be those flahsbangs....
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  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    The tire.
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  • NEO_PhyteNEO_Phyte We need shirtgons&#33; Join Date: 2003-12-16 Member: 24453Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Oct 4 2004, 03:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Oct 4 2004, 03:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok, I realize the source engine pwnd j00, but... CS:S is just normal CS w/ physics and pretty water... What's the big deal?

    The only thing I can see is it will attract a lot of former CS players and get them to spend $$ on Valve's new toy.

    Personally, I don't see the point in CS:S, now, if it were, say all new, completly re-designed, new maps/gameplay modes, and took advantage of the HL2 engine, rather than a strait port of the orrginal CS, then yea... But I don't get it...

    please asplain to mah... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    simple.

    buy through steam = CS:S AND HL2 (when its done <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
    and that is just the bronze package
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  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    Yeah, but you dont get the physical disk(s) (Dvd or 6 cd).
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-UnderDOG+Oct 4 2004, 04:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnderDOG @ Oct 4 2004, 04:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, but you dont get the physical disk(s) (Dvd or 6 cd). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or have to wait for it to install or go to your local retailer and HOPE they have it.


    While you stand in the rain crying because some pimplesaurus rex with bbq stained strench pants and a star wars t-shirt just slapped his greasy hands on YOUR copy of HL2 all the while slopping down a bigmac, I will be playing it already. Mmmmm
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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin-illuminex+Oct 4 2004, 11:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (illuminex @ Oct 4 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The tire. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yup. The tire is like a minigame <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • GreedoGreedo Bounty Hunter Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 37Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    There might not be anything particularly special about CS:S right out of the box, so to speak. But there's a lot of possibility in the Source engine, and once Valve puts out the SDK and, more importantly in this case, the new version of Hammer, expect to see some crazy awesome maps for CS, and every other mod as well.
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  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    I wouldn't be adverse to giving the creation of a CS:S map a shot, although I think single-player HL2 mapping would be a bigger draw.
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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Oct 5 2004, 12:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Oct 5 2004, 12:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think single-player HL2 mapping would be a bigger draw. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ohhhhhhh, yeah.
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  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zyndrome+Oct 4 2004, 10:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zyndrome @ Oct 4 2004, 10:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Summary:
    NS-players + changes made to the game = the NS-community explodes in a fury of "OMG WHINE WHINE WE WANT OLD VERSION BACK FFS!!!" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Did you see what I did there? Your point is?
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Oct 4 2004, 06:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Oct 4 2004, 06:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UnderDOG+Oct 4 2004, 04:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnderDOG @ Oct 4 2004, 04:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, but you dont get the physical disk(s) (Dvd or 6 cd). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or have to wait for it to install or go to your local retailer and HOPE they have it.


    While you stand in the rain crying because some pimplesaurus rex with bbq stained strench pants and a star wars t-shirt just slapped his greasy hands on YOUR copy of HL2 all the while slopping down a bigmac, I will be playing it already. Mmmmm <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Exactly. CDs and DVDs are going to be obsolete soon; why buy data on a stupid piece of destructable plastic when you can simply download it to your computer? If you're paranoid or something about Steam deleting your account, you are allowed to burn the .gcf files to a CD and there you go.
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  • RatonetwothreetwooneRatonetwothreetwoone Join Date: 2004-03-23 Member: 27504Members
    its NOT the exact same.... you see...
    1) better graphics (dont gimme that "w00p w00p i dont give a damn" because i know you do)
    2) better physics (""")
    3) ... well i guess thats it but still ... it sounded like some of you actually though the graphics and stuff were the exact same... wth?
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  • DefianceDefiance Join Date: 2003-12-01 Member: 23847Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Greedo386+Oct 4 2004, 02:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Greedo386 @ Oct 4 2004, 02:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There might not be anything particularly special about CS:S right out of the box, so to speak. But there's a lot of possibility in the Source engine, and once Valve puts out the SDK and, more importantly in this case, the new version of Hammer, expect to see some crazy awesome maps for CS, and every other mod as well. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not just awesome, CRAZY awesome. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I agree, I was watching a tech.show and Doug Lambardi was on it, disscussing the SDK.

    Looks badass.

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Rat12321+Oct 4 2004, 07:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rat12321 @ Oct 4 2004, 07:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its NOT the exact same.... you see...
    1) better graphics (dont gimme that "w00p w00p i dont give a damn" because i know you do)
    2) better physics (""")
    3) ... well i guess thats it but still ... it sounded like some of you actually though the graphics and stuff were the exact same... wth? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think it's safe to assume that everyone was fully aware that the graphics and physics were at least superficially different.
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  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Rat12321+Oct 4 2004, 10:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rat12321 @ Oct 4 2004, 10:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its NOT the exact same.... you see...
    1) better graphics (dont gimme that "w00p w00p i dont give a damn" because i know you do)
    2) better physics (""")
    3) ... well i guess thats it but still ... it sounded like some of you actually though the graphics and stuff were the exact same... wth? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    RAGDOLLS!

    *chuckle*
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  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Rat12321+Oct 4 2004, 05:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rat12321 @ Oct 4 2004, 05:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its NOT the exact same.... you see...
    1) better graphics (dont gimme that "w00p w00p i dont give a damn" because i know you do)
    2) better physics (""")
    3) ... well i guess thats it but still ... it sounded like some of you actually though the graphics and stuff were the exact same... wth? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    He was just asking why bother <u>paying</u> for a game that is functionally identical to one you can have for free. Do the graphics really justify the pricetag?

    (I think so, but I'm just stating his question)
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  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    prediction for Planet Half-life's POTD for the next five years: Ragdoll terrorists in sexually amusing Positions!!!11
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  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-supernorn2000+Oct 4 2004, 11:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supernorn2000 @ Oct 4 2004, 11:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> prediction for Planet Half-life's POTD for the next five years: Ragdoll terrorists in sexually amusing Positions!!!11 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Only 5 years? It'll be ragdoll <i>something</i> for at least 10 years.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    It's already been ragdoll stuff for a while now, when the CS Source beta came out.
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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    I don't play cs much at all, but when I heard that someone killed another guy accidentally by throwing a grenade into a hallway which was near no one but propelled a can through the air and into the back of an enemy's skull... I knew the game was sufficiently different.

    I haven't played cs:s yet though. probably won't till HL2 comes out.
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  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Oct 4 2004, 03:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Oct 4 2004, 03:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Or have to wait for it to install or go to your local retailer and HOPE they have it.


    While you stand in the rain crying because some pimplesaurus rex with bbq stained strench pants and a star wars t-shirt just slapped his greasy hands on YOUR copy of HL2 all the while slopping down a bigmac, I will be playing it already. Mmmmm <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or you get a reserved copy and the store calls you the day they get it.
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  • docchimpydocchimpy Join Date: 2003-07-19 Member: 18266Members
    I don't care about graphics. However, I'm willing to fork over the full price of a game just to see those physics in action(yeah, yeah still superficial, no better than graphics fanboys). On a less serious note, however, SHOW ME DEM PHYSICS, BABY! WOO WOO!
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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    doc, read my example, that's not superficial... I say the physics are gameplay changing.
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