Well, I guess it's great for me that the only extroverts I've met are foreign people during senior year in high school. Sophmore year in college now, so...wherever all those friends are supposed to be. The best I've got is people that I'll go to lunch with every few days after class.
Hell, I don't even know how I meet these people. Friends/aquaintances over the last 3 years: Exchange student - talkative and amusing, intelligent and beautiful (enough for me, anyway) Exchange student - lazy but talkative, seemed like a drunkard Exchange student - bit shy, but talkative when relating to his home country High School student - Freshman at the time, lacking intelligence, moderate gamer High School student - crazily talkative/daring...just off the wall College student - band member (...death metal, which I don't really like), bit of a drinker, College student - partier, drinker, poor studying habits <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> . College student - crazily extroverted ADD guy (if taking a dump in the drinking fountain tells you anything). One of the above has been to my home, all of the college student ones have been to my dorm.
And I'm shy, lazy and seemingly unfriendly at first approach. Plus I have little use of long conversations when just meeting people because I always think about what I say before saying it with new people.
Pffft, I'm more open this year than any of those. Everyone is already in their little groups with no real interactivity between them. Pffft, I walk by and say hello and I get a "..." response. Aside the fact I'm really shy and that's really hard, I just don't feel like doing it twice because now they're held as either 1: arrogant **** that don't want to look up from what they're doing or 2: Too busy to do anything besides be with their friends.
I even know I don't seem nice. Straight faced it looks like I'm **** and smiling looks like I'm straight faced (unless I'm really happy or something). I'll conciously go down the hall trying to appear more friendly...but pffft, all these people now are just making me mad.
Aside from that, I usually don't go out of my way to talk to people because I don't want to waste their time. I've been bothered plenty of times by people with nothing to do, but I'll have something to do and it's just annoying. Even when people interupt me to be like, "Hey, want to go play Football?" or "go to a campfire?"
In all of the above I blame my vision for almost all of my trouble, but that's nobody's fault and is for a different thread some other time. On a side note: I've found my perceptions of people are right a large majority of the time [unproven statistic: around 95%]. I pinpointed my roommate's lifestyle by talking to him on the phone for about 3 minutes.
Now that you've waded through that, I present my suggestion: open your dorm room door and shout out: 1. "Anyone want to play D&D?" 2. "Anyone want to start a LAN" 3. "Anyone want to play some [insert game name here]!?"
...if it's college. It's probably fairly standard, and most people will think you're drunk, excited or a combination of both.
[No, I've never done it, but one of these days I'm just going to shout "Who wants to play Halo" and see if anyone does...but they'll all be busy playing boxing or typing out...AIM messages to pay attention.]
My best advice in finding that one friend who you can be friends with forever does not involve effort in trying to change him to something who you are, rather it involves effort on your part in actually trying to understand him as a person. Once you can appreciate this world and what it has to offer; once you can accept who you are as a person, meaning your limits and faults, you will start to see things differently.
To each his own sufferings, are all men. I can tell you that from my own experience, making friends was probably one of the hardest things for me to undertake; but once I managed to take away some prejudices and misconceptions over certain people, I found them to be interesting although in their opposites. After many arguements, name callings, and fights, the friendships with these certain people grew into a bond. We all all learned from each other.
My best friends turned out to be the ones who I loathed at first. They were the ones who picked on me, who physically harassed me, but once they saw me for who I am and what little understandings we could learn from each other, things turned out differently. Then many years passed and these certain people grew more and more mature. Soon most of the annoying quirks they had before faded away.
Let go, have fun, and worry about the commitment part later. "All that is for you to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you..." "Live the questions now..."
And remember, seeing how you have a superiority complex, let me quote from St. Augustine: "...He knows, whose comprehension of anything is based on sure grounds. He believes who, influenced by some strong authority, thinks something to be true without have sure grounds on which to base his comprehension. The opinionative man is he who thinks he understands that of which he has no knowledge...He who is convinced that he already knows is thereby debarred from being able to learn..."
Do you see the moral of what I have been saying? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I think you contain the answers to those questions you hold. Just search hard within.
Being more social seems to work for me. Then again, I'm a pretty social person, I always have been.
Get out there and meet people man <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, and remember this wonderful quote:
<!--QuoteBegin-camO.o+Sep 21 2004, 03:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (camO.o @ Sep 21 2004, 03:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Testament+Sep 20 2004, 09:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ Sep 20 2004, 09:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And don't think you're special enough for anyone to have any kind of personal grudge against you. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh, but apparently you do. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't even know who the hell you are.
<!--QuoteBegin-camO.o+Sep 20 2004, 09:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (camO.o @ Sep 20 2004, 09:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Let's consider if I had helped the kid in chem. What do I say hm? Raise my hand and tell my teacher to drop it? I would then get a nice freaking detention, a lecture, and look like a freaking idiot on top of it all. Do you really think that kid is gonna be grateful I helped him? He's about 130, knows a few people in class, and some 110lb anti-social dude sticks up for him. Ya.
All of you that are claiming I should've helped the kid - ask yourself what you would've done in my situation. I mean really think about it. Not just "I would've done something," but "what would I have done?"
p.s. Testament, stop riding on Forlorn's balls. Stop using this thread as a way of exacting personal revenge on me for whatever I did that made you annoy the hell out of me, and the rest of these forums. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I know it sounds like BS, but I would have stuck up for the kid.
I've done similar things in school before, and yes it has resulted in getting thrown out of class for the day or whatever. Who cares, it's a punishment. It lasts a day at the most. Your conscience lasts a lifetime.
Oh and by the way, 110? I'm 140, I'm not scared of much... 30 pounds can't make that much of a difference. I can speak in front of large crowds on the fly, not get nervous... public speaking skills, you know? It's easy once you make your mind about it.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have to agree with you here. You have to be realistic in certain situations. He probably wouldn't have appreciated that kind of thing. The best thing for his sake would have been talking to him after class, seeing if you could help him out. Making a big scene would probably not be something he would appreciate.
Oh and why did forlorn call you Last?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, you shouldn't assume how things would have happened. Just go in and tell the teacher to leave the kid alone.
And camo's real online alias is last. He changed it because his old reputation was so bad he ran from it, I guess. But again, I've kept the same alias for almost 3 years of online gaming now.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually, I can't stand Forlorn or you. The only thing Forlorn has going for him is that I don't think he's done an Off-Topic "I"m lonely, give me symphathy" post yet.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Testament... I don't even know how you know me. That's about how significant you are to me
Onoes. It would appear I've been burned because I'm unpopular! <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Hell, I don't even know how I meet these people. Friends/aquaintances over the last 3 years:
Exchange student - talkative and amusing, intelligent and beautiful (enough for me, anyway)
Exchange student - lazy but talkative, seemed like a drunkard
Exchange student - bit shy, but talkative when relating to his home country
High School student - Freshman at the time, lacking intelligence, moderate gamer
High School student - crazily talkative/daring...just off the wall
College student - band member (...death metal, which I don't really like), bit of a drinker,
College student - partier, drinker, poor studying habits <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
College student - crazily extroverted ADD guy (if taking a dump in the drinking fountain tells you anything).
One of the above has been to my home, all of the college student ones have been to my dorm.
And I'm shy, lazy and seemingly unfriendly at first approach. Plus I have little use of long conversations when just meeting people because I always think about what I say before saying it with new people.
Pffft, I'm more open this year than any of those. Everyone is already in their little groups with no real interactivity between them. Pffft, I walk by and say hello and I get a "..." response. Aside the fact I'm really shy and that's really hard, I just don't feel like doing it twice because now they're held as either 1: arrogant **** that don't want to look up from what they're doing or 2: Too busy to do anything besides be with their friends.
I even know I don't seem nice. Straight faced it looks like I'm **** and smiling looks like I'm straight faced (unless I'm really happy or something). I'll conciously go down the hall trying to appear more friendly...but pffft, all these people now are just making me mad.
Aside from that, I usually don't go out of my way to talk to people because I don't want to waste their time. I've been bothered plenty of times by people with nothing to do, but I'll have something to do and it's just annoying. Even when people interupt me to be like, "Hey, want to go play Football?" or "go to a campfire?"
In all of the above I blame my vision for almost all of my trouble, but that's nobody's fault and is for a different thread some other time. On a side note: I've found my perceptions of people are right a large majority of the time [unproven statistic: around 95%]. I pinpointed my roommate's lifestyle by talking to him on the phone for about 3 minutes.
Now that you've waded through that, I present my suggestion: open your dorm room door and shout out:
1. "Anyone want to play D&D?"
2. "Anyone want to start a LAN"
3. "Anyone want to play some [insert game name here]!?"
...if it's college. It's probably fairly standard, and most people will think you're drunk, excited or a combination of both.
[No, I've never done it, but one of these days I'm just going to shout "Who wants to play Halo" and see if anyone does...but they'll all be busy playing boxing or typing out...AIM messages to pay attention.]
To each his own sufferings, are all men. I can tell you that from my own experience, making friends was probably one of the hardest things for me to undertake; but once I managed to take away some prejudices and misconceptions over certain people, I found them to be interesting although in their opposites. After many arguements, name callings, and fights, the friendships with these certain people grew into a bond. We all all learned from each other.
My best friends turned out to be the ones who I loathed at first. They were the ones who picked on me, who physically harassed me, but once they saw me for who I am and what little understandings we could learn from each other, things turned out differently. Then many years passed and these certain people grew more and more mature. Soon most of the annoying quirks they had before faded away.
Let go, have fun, and worry about the commitment part later. "All that is for you to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you..." "Live the questions now..."
And remember, seeing how you have a superiority complex, let me quote from St. Augustine: "...He knows, whose comprehension of anything is based on sure grounds. He believes who, influenced by some strong authority, thinks something to be true without have sure grounds on which to base his comprehension. The opinionative man is he who thinks he understands that of which he has no knowledge...He who is convinced that he already knows is thereby debarred from being able to learn..."
Do you see the moral of what I have been saying? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I think you contain the answers to those questions you hold. Just search hard within.
-Peace.
Get out there and meet people man <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, and remember this wonderful quote:
"Don't judge a book by it's cover"
Oh, but apparently you do. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't even know who the hell you are.
All of you that are claiming I should've helped the kid - ask yourself what you would've done in my situation. I mean really think about it. Not just "I would've done something," but "what would I have done?"
p.s. Testament, stop riding on Forlorn's balls. Stop using this thread as a way of exacting personal revenge on me for whatever I did that made you annoy the hell out of me, and the rest of these forums. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know it sounds like BS, but I would have stuck up for the kid.
I've done similar things in school before, and yes it has resulted in getting thrown out of class for the day or whatever. Who cares, it's a punishment. It lasts a day at the most. Your conscience lasts a lifetime.
Oh and by the way, 110? I'm 140, I'm not scared of much... 30 pounds can't make that much of a difference. I can speak in front of large crowds on the fly, not get nervous... public speaking skills, you know? It's easy once you make your mind about it.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have to agree with you here. You have to be realistic in certain situations. He probably wouldn't have appreciated that kind of thing. The best thing for his sake would have been talking to him after class, seeing if you could help him out. Making a big scene would probably not be something he would appreciate.
Oh and why did forlorn call you Last?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, you shouldn't assume how things would have happened. Just go in and tell the teacher to leave the kid alone.
And camo's real online alias is last. He changed it because his old reputation was so bad he ran from it, I guess. But again, I've kept the same alias for almost 3 years of online gaming now.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually, I can't stand Forlorn or you. The only thing Forlorn has going for him is that I don't think he's done an Off-Topic "I"m lonely, give me symphathy" post yet.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Testament... I don't even know how you know me. That's about how significant you are to me
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