My Theory On The Bus(that Makes Perfect Sense)

ModChaosControlModChaosControl HiveMind NS bot creator Join Date: 2004-03-31 Member: 27613Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Theres already a thread, but its BIG</div> Now, Nemesis Zero recently quoted <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's sooner than you think <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> about the B.U.S.

Doesnt it seem strange that there has been <b> NO </b> news on beta 5 since the PSHBB has been fixed?

The B.U.S. will be shipped (or announced) along with Beta 5. Nemesis zero is all hush hush about this, as are all other NS signifcants.

As for what the B.U.S is (for n00bies here)
The B.U.S (Big Unnanounced System) is a project or something
like a conspiracy that is only known to NS admins/devs.
It was only <i> small </i> on the news page and people could easily miss it.


For what the B.U.S could be -->
A new engine for NS II
A new NS that includes a new race
A new set of structures for each team.


This thread will probably be locked, but if it is edited by Nemesis Zero then <b> I know the truth </b>
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  • Gerald_R_FordGerald_R_Ford Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22544Members
    honestly, why can't people just wait for it? must we make these threads every ten minutes?
  • Mr_ChuckletrousersMr_Chuckletrousers Join Date: 2004-05-20 Member: 28799Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ModChaosControl+Aug 14 2004, 08:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ModChaosControl @ Aug 14 2004, 08:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> but if it is edited by Nemesis Zero then <b> I know the truth </b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't think so
  • NGENGE Join Date: 2003-11-10 Member: 22443Members
    Does that mean every time Nem edited someone else's post on the BUS that they were right too <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    Its much more likely that the BUS is a <span style='color:red'>*No spoilers*</span>


    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>This post has been edited by Nemesis Zero on Aug 14 2004, 15:39 AM</span>
  • Rapier7Rapier7 Join Date: 2004-02-05 Member: 26108Members
    The original poster is an idiot.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Rapier7+Aug 14 2004, 03:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rapier7 @ Aug 14 2004, 03:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The original poster is an idiot. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, he is just new to the internet <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CypherCypher Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14579Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ModChaosControl+Aug 14 2004, 08:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ModChaosControl @ Aug 14 2004, 08:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> For what the B.U.S could be -->
    A new engine for NS II
    A new NS that includes a new race
    A new set of structures for each team. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Im extremely sure that it isnt any of those.

    bringing clanners and pubbers together has nothing to do with those things.

    Right now it's in beta and they're trying to balance it, they wouldnt impliment anything big and new...
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    It's a SYSTEM not a FEATURE.
  • whiskey_colawhiskey_cola Join Date: 2004-08-12 Member: 30557Awaiting Authorization
    It's tiresome, that's what it is.
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-supernorn2000+Aug 14 2004, 09:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supernorn2000 @ Aug 14 2004, 09:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Its much more likely that the BUS is a <span style='color:red'>*No spoilers*</span>


    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>This post has been edited by Nemesis Zero on Aug 14 2004, 15:39 AM</span> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you forgot to bold "Nemesis Zero"

    and it should be SIZE=0
  • WitherWither A Bugged Life Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11513Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    The bus will most likely be a global ranking system or something of the sorts.

    Why?

    Head on over to ns.org and read the few entries before the BUS first being announced. They were talking about the tournament website and stuff, and in a few small tidbits it's mentioned that the BUS will require a website. My guess is that it will be the ranking website.

    Also, it was said that it will change the way both clan play and pub play is played. A global ranking system would do that.

    That's my theory at least <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> We'll see.
  • CypherCypher Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14579Members
    They knew about the bus during 1.04...When it was announced wasnt the first time that it was thought of
  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    The BUS will be shipping when the devs think its ready. I have been told that b5 will contain alot of changes to NS.

    If it is what I think it is then I hope it all goes well. I am not wanting to post my ideas on the BUS mainly because I really dont think my opinion counts for much <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Anyway I see alot of exiting things ahppening in the future for NS but either Flayra will join with valve or that valve will buy half of UWE and help him port to Source. What ever it is I dont care as long as I can still play it.
  • SatertekSatertek Join Date: 2002-12-22 Member: 11372Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter
    BUS is an in game mass transit system for marines. There you go now be quiet. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    But really, just be patient, guessing isnt gonna get you anywhere.
  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
    edited August 2004
    Yeah, i think this BUS thing has been way over hyped, when it's acually released i think people are going to cry because it just wont meet there expectations over all this hype.
    For my own sake i hope i'm wrong, but i highly doubt i will be beacuse i'm <u>Always</u> right and my opinion counts for everything.

    If we put all the information that the devs have leaked out to us we can get a small picture of what it's going to be/involved. See bullets.<ul><li>The BUS will be helping clan play in someway.</li><li>The BUS as it's name suggests will be a "System" not a feature as many have suggested</li><li>On one of the Website screenshots there was a log-in box, this may show some kind of logging information</li><li>The first "phase" of the beta has already been instated in beta 4, so if you look through change logs you might catch onto something</li><li>The BUS will have some kind of "Learning Curve". I don't really know how this helps us but i'm sure it does somehow.</li></ul>I think that's just about all the main clues people have dug up, or caught onto.
    If i've missed anything, or i've said something that's total Bull Sh*t please just slap me and correct me.


    As for what i think the BUS will be i'm really not sure, and ATM i'm really not that botherd what it is, as long as it helps the euro clan scene it can't be bad....can it?


    Oh well, there's my 2 cents on the BUS status.

    ~ Waller. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • VampMasterVampMaster Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14585Members
    I think we should just stop talking about it because peoples are just building a hype on something they have no idea, so at least 50% of the peeps who made a whole huge hype will be like "Oh... It's only that"

    yeah I also found it strange we had no news about B5... there was 2 major bugs holding it, PSHB which was fixed by valve and another one... and I can't figure out how 2 perfectly good coders would take 14 days to fix a bug <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->...
  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
    I think the "Other one" was a listen server bug causing it to crash.
  • weggyweggy Join Date: 2003-06-04 Member: 16998Members
    <img src='http://www.goway.com/passpages/pp_img/other/bus_new.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    OMG, TEH MARINES HAVE DIESEL POWA! F4, F4!
  • SkydancerSkydancer Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14959Members, Constellation
    It should have been announced the day before b5 release...
  • SlayerPLSlayerPL Join Date: 2004-07-01 Member: 29660Members
    From what i read, i think if it was a ranking system, it could be similiar to Honor Points in America's Army. (just an idea)
  • FireStormFireStorm Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
    IMO it can be a stats system that would help the devs to balance the game. That would make sense.
    Anyway, wait and see....
  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->For what the B.U.S could be -->
    A new engine for NS II
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not exactly. Lets just say it isn't NS II maybe ns ported to half-life. Flayra already said something about yeah maybe. And NSII made flayra said hmm it might be in the future but not exactly. So it's been said.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A new NS that includes a new race<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No. Also some other reasons. First something about only 32 (Wrong number?) weapons can be used and currently only 2 weapon slots are left to be used. Can't even add a new alien class. Unless it's on some other engine maybe. No new race is needed in ns . Oh no (Lets say Protoss are the new ns race) protoss is too overpowered, marines are too weak same for aliens. Then oh no marines are too overpowered.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A new set of structures for each team.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well this could be it. But BUS said to be something that would change alot of things and is looking good right now. So I don't think a few new structures can change much.

    Also people thought of the race one, the nsII one and for the structures it's been suggested in I&S. That means people thought the same thoughts you did before. And I don't think thats BUS.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    Hell, none of us know what the BUS is. And if you just guess, its not like the moderators are going to say, "Well, you caught us. Good job."

    Why don't you just organize every concept known to man and start going down the list alphabeticly?! You'd have better luck than these threads do.
  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    edited August 2004
    The BUS will in all likelyhood be a massive letdown, either because it'll be a feature that has 100% no effect on the game (from a player perspective), such as the stats tracking system, or it'll be just a worthless piece of crap that most people won't care about, like the competetive play matchup system I've heard rumors about.

    Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if you're dissapointed about it. I'm used to dissapointment when it comes to new versions and features of NS.
  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    or it could be an advertising program to make money for NS2 <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • PriestPriest Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12042Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Aug 14 2004, 02:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Aug 14 2004, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The BUS will in all likelyhood be a massive letdown, either because it'll be a feature that has 100% no effect on the game (from a player perspective), such as the stats tracking system, or it'll be just a worthless piece of crap that most people won't care about, like the competetive play matchup system I've heard rumors about.

    Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if you're dissapointed about it. I'm used to dissapointment when it comes to new versions and features of NS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thank you for playing this great mod!
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Rue+Aug 14 2004, 02:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rue @ Aug 14 2004, 02:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> or it could be an advertising program to make money for NS2  <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If that's the case, I'll just send Flayra cash to get a REAL bus. :\

    No matter what it is, it's going to disaapoint some people and appease others. The question is merely the proprotions of each.

    --


    The HL2 port is unlreated I think. I seem to recall Flayra posting to say "...if I have my way [NS will be ported to HL2]". However that was independant of BUS.

    New set of structures? Hmm. Independant of current ones; I hope so. replacement? No.
    Marine tech-tree needs diversification. See Windelkron's sig for my fave ideas. (Bah, someone find a link.) That would be a good contender.

    And with any luck, unchained chambers too. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • HibameHibame Join Date: 2003-11-16 Member: 22974Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    BUS - Big Uber System

    See that was easy
  • camO_ocamO_o Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28028Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Aug 14 2004, 02:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Aug 14 2004, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The BUS will in all likelyhood be a massive letdown, either because it'll be a feature that has 100% no effect on the game (from a player perspective), such as the stats tracking system, or it'll be just a worthless piece of crap that most people won't care about, like the competetive play matchup system I've heard rumors about.

    Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if you're dissapointed about it. I'm used to dissapointment when it comes to new versions and features of NS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you know, you really should know when to keep your big mouth shut once in a while EEK. say something positive for once, so you don't come off as a big jerk that has nothing better to do then take every opportunity to flame the competitive community, or take a stab at how much you think the dev team sucks.

    i think it's safe to say that the B.U.S. will

    1.) require a website (criogenics is working on the B.U.S. himself, and as the n-s.org webmaster...)
    2.) unchained chambers are not happing anytime soon. at this point, it'll probably take too much effort to balance.
    3.) "Phase 1" of the B.U.S. began with b4. this again supports the idea that the B.U.S. is a system - not a feature.
    4.) support the competitive community.

    all these points i've drawn from very reliable sources, and the beta change logs.
  • FireStormFireStorm Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Petco+Aug 14 2004, 07:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Petco @ Aug 14 2004, 07:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> First something about only 32 (Wrong number?) weapons can be used and currently only 2 weapon slots are left to be used. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah that's the default HL limit, which can be changed quite easily with some coding (I know someone who set a 128 weapons limit in his mod). HL is very customizable btw <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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