Nvidia Equal To The 9800 Pro
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<div class="IPBDescription">Because I'm in the market for a card.</div> I'm a diehard nvidia fan, but not fanboy so expect no arguments, and please don't turn this into nvidia is better than ati, vice versa. I saw a very nice 9800 pro on newegg made by saphire with the XT core for 200.
However I prefer nVidia cards because I've had very bad experiences with ATI in the past. I was wondering if a video card guru would take the time to find an nvidia equal to this card. I'm willing to spend 200-350 dollars. I'd save up an entire month and just get a GT but yeah I'm looking for a solution now and I only will need a card to perform well in Doom 3, Half-life 2 and Stalker. (When and If Halflife 2 comes out) Thanks!
However I prefer nVidia cards because I've had very bad experiences with ATI in the past. I was wondering if a video card guru would take the time to find an nvidia equal to this card. I'm willing to spend 200-350 dollars. I'd save up an entire month and just get a GT but yeah I'm looking for a solution now and I only will need a card to perform well in Doom 3, Half-life 2 and Stalker. (When and If Halflife 2 comes out) Thanks!
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I guess you couild get the 6800 non ultra if you want....
Check the specs <a href='http://www.gainwardusa.com/products/vga_1300xtdt_spec.htm' target='_blank'>here.</a>
Go Gainward. ATI's are sucky, i have one in my laptop. Its very fast but its crap, cant update drivers for it, PowerPlay doesnt work, etc. im never buying ATI again
A little bit more? I haven't seen any under 450 dollars.
It is one of their Gold Seal series so it performs quite well. I don't have it overclocked and can play Doom3 with High Detail at 1024x768.
It works very well for me. It is an older card and the newer 6xxx series should perform quite well. My friend gave it to me when he upgraded so I am not sure what he paid for it, or its current market value.
Gainward gold seal products have earned my respect.
I'm pretty much with Goose on this one. While the Geforce 3 & 4 are good, and the 6800 is good, pretty much all the cards in between sucked. The 9800 Pro is one of the best cards on the market today, and I can reccommend it to you even if you've had issues with ATI in the past. I didn't like ATI much before I purchased my 9800 Pro, and now I lubbers the guys.
In short, unless you want to splurge on the newest generation nVidia hardware, get a 9800 Pro (if you're worried about performance in Doom 3, don't be - it runs fine).
Check the specs <a href='http://www.gainwardusa.com/products/vga_1300xtdt_spec.htm' target='_blank'>here.</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i'd go with the 9800 pro over the 5900xt any day.
stay away from the FX's if at all possible as they are overpriced and underperforming. i'm going to agree with the other people in this thread that said to go with the 6800. however, if you're not that impressed with the 6800, go for the ati 9800 pro.
Anyways, The 9800pro I picked up for £120 <a href='http://www.xe.com/ucc/' target='_blank'>$220</a>)
It runs doom3 on High settings @ 1024. I have a athlon 3000 64bit.
A friend has the 6800, runs it pretty much that same exept he doesnt get the graphical bugs that I do in doom 3 when I use the new drivers from ATI
nb. these drivers are beta and tell you not to install them on any machine that you have to do work on ;P.
However I prefer nVidia cards because I've had very bad experiences with ATI in the past. I was wondering if a video card guru would take the time to find an nvidia equal to this card. I'm willing to spend 200-350 dollars. I'd save up an entire month and just get a GT but yeah I'm looking for a solution now and I only will need a card to perform well in Doom 3, Half-life 2 and Stalker. (When and If Halflife 2 comes out) Thanks! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ATI has cleared up there driver issues. Get the ATI card.
Infact, they cleared up there driver issues 2+ years ago.
Anyways, The 9800pro I picked up for £120 <a href='http://www.xe.com/ucc/' target='_blank'>$220</a>)
It runs doom3 on High settings @ 1024. I have a athlon 3000 64bit.
A friend has the 6800, runs it pretty much that same exept he doesnt get the graphical bugs that I do in doom 3 when I use the new drivers from ATI
nb. these drivers are beta and tell you not to install them on any machine that you have to do work on ;P. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I didn't install them, I have the 4.7 cats version of omega drivers, and I still run DOOM3 at 1280x1024 on high with no problems, and FPS always above 30.
speed wise it is
6800 ultra/x800xt (about same)
6800 gt/x800 (ati beats nvidia with AA on but i dont really know anyone who uses it at high resolutions)
6800 normal/ 9800 xt
9800
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geforce 4 ti series
ati 8000-9200
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geforce fx series (yay for crap)
Should be able to find an R9800 Pro 128 for approximately $174, if you live in the USA.. Best Buy was just running a sale for that price. Also note that if you have the cash, the X800 XTPE is the fastest card on the market... and at $500, it's cheaper than nVidia's slower 6800 UE, which retails for $700+ as a pre-overclocked golden sample.
working in PC repair i see a couple broken videocards a week; keep in mind every computer i see has something wrong, and when it is an ATI videocard, we ALWAYS have trouble uninstalling the driver while using a different card.
we cant carry ATI, because should they ever fail its nearly impossible to change the drivers over to another card.
ontopic: the high 59xx series were good like the 9800s. the low 5,000 series were poo. everyone fell for the fx5200 like they fell for the g4mx; theyre crap at the bottom of the line. an FX5950 would do you well.
With an ATi, you just have to remember to remove the control panel, THEN the drivers, THEN pull the card.
Though I guess if your card literally fried, that could be a problem in getting the drivers out, as they wouldn't see the card there and would disable themselves.
And CWAG, the X800 XTPE would be the card I'd buy myself, if I didn't have back-bills to deal with at the moment. :b
(edit) And yes, you HAVE to remove the control panel and drivers before you install the new ones, when updating Catalysts. You do NOT install them 'over the top' of the old ones. Only part that annoys compu-nubs. (/color)
All you need to do is run the Catalyst remover.(or do it manually)
With an ATi, you just have to remember to remove the control panel, THEN the drivers, THEN pull the card.
Though I guess if your card literally fried, that could be a problem in getting the drivers out, as they wouldn't see the card there and would disable themselves.
And CWAG, the X800 XTPE would be the card I'd buy myself, if I didn't have back-bills to deal with at the moment. :b
(edit) And yes, you HAVE to remove the control panel and drivers before you install the new ones, when updating Catalysts. You do NOT install them 'over the top' of the old ones. Only part that annoys compu-nubs. (/color) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
wouldn't it still be possible to uninstall them if you just plugged in a working (ati) card?