Gorge Benefit Package

Pa1adinPa1adin Join Date: 2003-06-06 Member: 17048Members
Okay folks, here's an idea that I've been kicking around and I Would like some feedback from the forum for consideration/refinement.

So, we all know that whenever an alien player builds a new structure they get points added to their score. I think that is great, it’s a bit of motivation to strengthen the team. Still, I feel that a little more motivation is in order.

Here's a list of benefits to go with various structures:

Res Tower: Res towers, as far as I know, dispense one res per second to one member of the team. This cycles through the entire living team. What if the builder of a particular res tower receives 2 res from his tower when his/her turn arises? There could be certain limits placed on this, like it could max out or something.

Upgrade Chambers: A builder of a particular type of upgrade chamber will gain a discount on the cost of upgrades attached to that chamber. This benefit could be cumulative so that if a player builds enough of a certain chamber, the upgrades could become free.

Hives: As hives speed up an entire team's respawn rate, perhaps the builder of a hive, who, lets face it, sacrificed a lot of res to build it, is automatically put further up in the respawn que.

Offense Towers: Already give the builder all the res from the kills so, what more do you want?

These are my suggestions and I feel that as the current NS climate seems to favour marines, this will level the field once more. Please, give me suggestions and feedback, in other words, FLaMe AwAy!

Comments

  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
    It will certainly get rid of :
    "You build the hive, I'll fade."
    "You build the hive, I'll fade."
    <i>Both players gestate and 2 marines come in and kill them both as eggs.</i>
    GG. 2 hive lockdown.
  • BallistoBallisto Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16503Members
    That wouldn't happen... the marine doesn't have enough bullets to do it (damn 3.0 eggs with tons of hp).

    I'm for the gorge benefits... it would make THAT job more fun.
  • krimsonkrimson Join Date: 2002-07-04 Member: 881Members
    i think for the most part, thats a very good suggestion.. especially the hive one, but as for the upgrade chambers being cumulative, i think thats a very bad idea, because whats to stop someone from spamming like 10 dcs/mc/etc getting the free upgrades, and then going not-gorge, and someone taking over the job, building 10 more, etc etc etc till like 4+ people have free upgrades.
  • MistenTHMistenTH Join Date: 2003-01-01 Member: 11706Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Cause if the folks can afford to spend a minimum of 30 res just on chambers and thus forcing them to remain as skulks for the next 5 minutes, the marines just plan suck. It's more likely that 3/3/MT or JP/HA Marines with HMG and GL will come knocking on your hive by the time you can fade.

    But gorge benefits are cool. There was another one too, where a gorge could "eat" a gun by using it and get res for it.
  • OtsOts Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18577Members, Constellation
    With testing these suggestions would do wonders to NS gameplay IMO, good thinking Pa1adin, <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    *thumbs up*
  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    edited August 2004
    LOL that would be funny if the gorge ate a GL and it blew up if the gorge fell to far or ran into a wall <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    /me stears the post back on topic

    Yeh I like the idea of giving the gorge some insentives
  • keep_it_Gangstakeep_it_Gangsta Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17632Members
    as far as getting free reduced/free upgrades, hmm yeah cant see anything worng with that as such.

    However getting 2 res per tick if have you previously built a rew tower is bad, what if everyone gorges, drops a rt. Then each alien gets double res, mega imbalance.
  • KaineKaine Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1096Members, Constellation
    edited August 2004
    make it so the res builder only gets 2 res per tick until their res is destroyed. gives 'rines more incentive to go after res towers -> makes res towers more valuable -> centres play around res control -> \o/

    also rewards "career" gorges, 'cause as long as they are building/replacing res towers, they are getting plenty more res to do their job. i wouldn't suggest making the effect cumulative, mind you. you could end up with gorges having practically unlimited res :o
  • PehmoleluPehmolelu Join Date: 2004-05-03 Member: 28424Members, Constellation
    It would still be infair...
    I think Who ever is the gorge, gets 1.5 or 2 res per tick. You dont have to build res tower, u just need to be gorge to get more resources. Though then players would go gorge at start and wait until onos res :/

    I have very weird suggestion to solve this problem: Make 2 different res systems. 1 for structures and 1 for other lifeforms and upgrades. They both would be at start 25/25 . When you are any other lifeform than gorge, the first bar would arise up as normal as it is now. But the other bar would rise as 0.5 faster (so it would be 1.5slower) than the other. But when player goes gorge, the first bar stops raising up fast, and will raise up as 0.5 faster(so it would be 1.5 slower) than normal , and the second would rise up 1.5 faster than the first one. This second one would be structure res bar. It would raise faster when gorge so structures would be cheaper to make and gorging would be funnier <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Dont think This would make that aliens wont get second hive up as fast as normal if someone wont go gorge and be a gorge until gets 40 res. 'Cause if u think little more u will notice that aliens will get faster resources than normal because:
    + There would be more gorges at start
    + More RT:s and OC:s to defend them and hive.
    + Fades will come sooner, so getting second hive up would be easier when fades are protecting.
    + Its more difficult to marines to destroy RT when fades come sooner and You can build OC to defend RT because u would gain res faster when gorge to build structures.

    If someone sees something not working in my idea, then say it :F
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Kaine+Aug 8 2004, 05:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kaine @ Aug 8 2004, 05:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> also rewards "career" gorges, 'cause as long as they are building/replacing res towers, they are getting plenty more res to do their job. i wouldn't suggest making the effect cumulative, mind you. you could end up with gorges having practically unlimited res :o <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think a better way would be to have the bonus reduce for each added effect.

    For example, the first RT you build gives you x res per tick as long as it lives.
    The second would add on a x/2 res per tick bonus as long as it lives.
    The third would add on a x/2 res per tick bonus as long as it lives.
    Etc.

    That way, you're not encouraging everyone to plant individual RTs, but a gorge who lays down three RTs doesn't get a scary amount of res income.
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