'boy Killed By Playstation'

StarchyStarchy Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15727Members, Constellation
edited July 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">This angers me..</div> <a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/3934277.stm' target='_blank'>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicest...ire/3934277.stm</a>

I find it amazing how parents can blame the game and not their total inability to parent. Also the game was an 18, the boys were 17 and 14... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> This just gives me RAGE!
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  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    edited July 2004
    Lousy upbringing....meh.

    Well, you can't have control over all of them. But what I do know is that games are just one thing : entertainment.

    Nothing more. Nothing less.

    Apparently, the majority of society do not understand that.

    Thankfully, this proves that everyone is not daft enough to not understand that games == entertainment.
    <!--QuoteBegin-same report+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (same report)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"However, we reject any suggestion or association between the tragic events and the sale of the video game Manhunt.

    "The game in question is classified 18 by the British Board of Film Classification and therefore should not be in the possession of a juvenile.

    "Simply being in someone's possession does not and should not lead to the conclusion that a game is responsible for these tragic events." <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    People who cant distinguish the line between a Game and Reality, Killing a bunch of polygons compared to a real person, need to get their head examined.

    Manhunt isnt a game I'd personally want to play though.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    The logic is simple.

    The game is rated 18, and shouldn't be sold to under 18's. He was under 18. If his parents were aware he was playing an 18+ game, and didn't stop him, then it's obviously the <b>games</b> fault.

    <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • V_MANV_MAN V-MAN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6217Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Starchy+Jul 29 2004, 11:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Starchy @ Jul 29 2004, 11:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/3934277.stm' target='_blank'>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicest...ire/3934277.stm</a>

    I find it amazing how parents can blame the game and not their total inability to parent. Also the game was an 18, the boys were 17 and 14... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> This just gives me RAGE! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I prevented these 13 year olds from getting the GTA double pack for their X-BOX at my old job lol.

    The tried to buy it an I pointed out they had to be 18 so they moaned then went to get mum lol. Mum came over and tried to buy it where I informed her that the game was an 18 certificate product, she looked at me as if I was an idiot for a second until i explained why it had a 18 certificate (examples of prostitution violence and crime in the game) she was quite shocked at hearing this lol.

    The whinging teenagers tried to bleet that it was only a game but the mum was having none of this after hearing that you could go up to **** for sex and steal cars in the game.

    Parents like that annoy me wth do they think thatr "18" on the game is there for?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> its the exact same one you would find on a porn movie but she wouldn't dare buy her kids that.
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    And I'd like to add that if violent video games are banned, then we shall add that violent movies and cartoons shall be banned!

    That means South Park, and Aliens.
    And Predator. Maybe vampire-based movies too.

    See the flaw here?
    The parents have watched movies that are really violent (Predator, Alien) and yet, they're okay with that. Yet when it comes to video games....meh.

    I really feel like getting that claw hammer of his and start hitting people who don't know that violence != games fault
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    RaVe - I don't want to break your heart, but this is already underway. In the UK, they don't show the original Warner Bros cartoons anymore on standard TV, because someone (may they burn slowly over a hot fire) complained they were too violent.

    I mean, ffs. Road Runner? Tom & Jerry? *Sigh*
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Shockwave+Jul 29 2004, 12:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Jul 29 2004, 12:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> RaVe - I don't want to break your heart, but this is already underway. In the UK, they don't show the original Warner Bros cartoons anymore on standard TV, because someone (may they burn slowly over a hot fire) complained they were too violent.

    I mean, ffs. Road Runner? Tom & Jerry? *Sigh* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...they stopped showing those?.....<b>WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?!!?!?</b>
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    Okay....

    *bashes head on wall repeatedly*

    Why Tom and Jerry?! There's no blood in it for crying out loud =_____________=
  • V_MANV_MAN V-MAN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6217Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-RaVe+Jul 29 2004, 11:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Jul 29 2004, 11:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Okay....

    *bashes head on wall repeatedly*

    Why Tom and Jerry?! There's no blood in it for crying out loud =_____________= <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Tom and Jerry got banned......

    Rite I'm gonna go on a killing spree an blame it on "ready steady cook" an see if i can get cooking programs banned.

    /me grabs a wooden spoon and a saucepan
  • 343_guilty_spark343_guilty_spark Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17462Members
    edited July 2004
    I'm confused in a way, this 17 year old killed his 14 year old FRIEND because he saw it in a GAME that is 18+? And now they want to BAN violent games but allowed this guy to play a 18+ game? I'm sorry but it's not the games fault, its obviously the parents for:
    A) letting this boy go out with a knife and hammer and allowing him to get acces to them
    B) letting him play a 18+ game
    C) not parenting him enough on the difference of reality and pixel
  • SgtFurySgtFury Join Date: 2003-02-07 Member: 13219Members
    ACME for the win!!!

    Someone should sue them for making products that don`t work properly, could give kids the wrong idea that if you strap a rocket to your back it will explode and not push you along on rollerskates...

    Signed

    Wil E Coyote

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-343_guilty_spark+Jul 29 2004, 06:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (343_guilty_spark @ Jul 29 2004, 06:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A) letting this boy go out with a knife and hammer and allowing him to get acces to them
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Uhh...I'd like to add that I have access to a hammer, a saw, nails, and a really sharp Ginsu knife.

    I might go with V-MAN on banning Ready Steady Cook....if I live in the UK that is XD

    EDIT : And while we're at it, let's ban all sharp objects and <u>crowbars.</u>
    And guns.

    Because they are the tools of violence.

    Voila! Another hole in their logic.

    EDIT THE EDIT : Added emphasis on the crowbar.
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
    Sometimes murder goes to a certain extent that you ask yourself how it is possible for such an atrocity to happen. Yes, it may sound plausible to blame such on the environment, but when you get to serial killers like the one in South Korea who chopped all 28 of his vicitms if I am correct, it doesn't sound that plausible other than that perhaps something in the mind just totatly shut off, or took over. It could be inherent autosuggestion, but this situation doesn't sound like it merits those qualities of severe psychosis. I may be wrong, since my knowledge in psychology is very limited.
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-kida+Jul 29 2004, 06:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kida @ Jul 29 2004, 06:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sometimes murder goes to a certain extent that you ask yourself how it is possible for such an atrocity to happen. Yes, it may sound plausible to blame such on the environment, but when you get to serial killers like the one in South Korea who chopped all 28 of his vicitms if I am correct, it doesn't sound that plausible other than that perhaps something in the mind just totatly shut off, or took over. It could be inherent autosuggestion, but this situation doesn't sound like it merits those qualities of severe psychosis. I may be wrong, since my knowledge in psychology is very limited. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Confusion with fantasy and reality, and long-term depression can be the cause.

    Trust me, I've been there. The depression gradually turns into anger as a whole, then the subject becomes completely el nuttso.

    Whoops. Did I say subject? I mean err....patient. Yep. Patient.

    But ususally when they are put on trial, they can't really remember what drives them to kill. Eventually, they turn to other things that made them commit murder/homicide.

    What those things are, are dependant on the individual. When it coms to teenagers though, they don't really have any clue, so they stik to the one thing that comes to mind that is violent : Video games.

    When it comes to thinking about violent things, and comparing between a movie and video games, video games are usually the first to come to mind because there are rarely any such games like 'Romance games' or something of the rare genre sort. Whereas they will have some sort of gameplay element that spells 'violence' at first thought.

    Yep, it's easier to blame games than movies. That's what bites the most.
  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    edited July 2004
    One of my firend bought manhunt.
    He loved it. He showed it to me.
    I honestly couldn't see the point.

    But then he's the kind of person who seems to find things like ogrish arousing or something. I find it frankly sickening

    And to anyone who says it is the game's fault, learn to control your kids. It's <i>your</i> fault, not the game's.

    I have GTA3 and GTA:Vice City. I am yet to go on a mass rampage slaughtering everyone I see, because my parents realise the value of discipline(i still don't like my parents though <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->)

    [EDIT:]Just because a game is rated 18, doesn't mean t deserves the rating. Manhunt <i>does</i>, but Perfect Dark was an 18.

    When my mum asked a shop person why it was an 18, he said it contained excessive violence, gore and swearing.

    After convincing her to let me buy it, and playing it through, i played it thorugh a second time, with the swear filter on.

    Only <i>one</i> sentence was silenced, in which he said 'damn it man.'
    Sounds like it's going to turn a child into a delinquent by hearing that.
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    dammit, my generation is a bunch of idiots.


    Heh, I don't see why people blame video games for being violent, just becaus someone gets mad and does the whole stabby-death routine on someone and they HAPPENED to play DOOM when they were 5! and havn't touched a game since makes them an evil 'Brain washed gamer that was reenacting doom'. I dunno what the people that do THIS sorta stuff are on but it certainly isn't healthy nor productive...


    On a side note, I've became more peaceful since I got my video games and computer ^_^
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-V-MAN+Jul 29 2004, 12:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V-MAN @ Jul 29 2004, 12:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Rite I'm gonna go on a killing spree an blame it on "ready steady cook" an see if i can get cooking programs banned.

    /me grabs a wooden spoon and a saucepan <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    One of the SA goons injected Cola into his bloodstream (or so he says) and hasn't posted for a very long time. I say we ban Cola to prevent this from happening again!

    I, like many others here I'm sure, have played violent video games for years (just turned 18 a month ago) and never had any murderous thoughts (well, maybe for my little brother, but who doesn't? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> ).

    At least someone in that article (the spokesman) has some common sense.

    EDIT: Just looked at my post. Too much damn parentheses!
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    I heard the Daily Mail's headline today was "DEATH BY PLAYSTATION." Is this true?

    They'll sell an awful lot of papers.
  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Flint Paper+Jul 29 2004, 02:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flint Paper @ Jul 29 2004, 02:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I heard the Daily Mail's headline today was "DEATH BY PLAYSTATION."  Is this true?

    They'll sell an awful lot of papers. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But everyone knows that the daily mail is a load of bollocks.

    They banned tom & jerry? since when?
    I can understand Wile E Coyote + Roadrunner, but Tom & jerry? thats just absurd

    [EDIT:]V-Man, that is truly Evil, and i like it!.
    Someone wouldn't let me buy <i>The sims</i> for christs sake just because it was rated 15+


    Thank god I don't live in Germany. I mean, what kind of retard replaces Dinosaurs with robots in Turok: Dinosaur hunter.
    They are already extinct, it's not like you're going to go massacring dinosaurs are you
  • CMEastCMEast Join Date: 2002-05-19 Member: 632Members
    Daft bint, if the kid is 'inherently evil' then how could the game be at fault?

    In other words she's just randomly spouting rubbish cos people like to blame things.

    Someone who is screwed up enough to use a hammer on someone would do it whether they watched 18+ films or my little pony... in fact they 18+ stuff they watched probably saved loads of pink horses getting beaten to death too!

    Idiots like that don't deserve a vote/opinion/the right to be a parent
  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-supernorn2000+Jul 29 2004, 06:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supernorn2000 @ Jul 29 2004, 06:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> People who cant distinguish the line between a Game and Reality, Killing a bunch of polygons compared to a real person, need to get their head examined.

    Manhunt isnt a game I'd personally want to play though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    what he said...Manhunt is sick, even more sick it is that those parents let that 17 year old kid play such games....and EVEN more sick it is that a kid goes harrassing REAL people because he saw it in a sick game...

    just ehm sick..
  • UZiUZi Eight inches of C4 between the legs. Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13767Members
    edited July 2004
    You sure it was a video game?

    <a href='http://hammer.ytmnd.com/' target='_blank'>STOP! HAMMER TIME!</a>
  • BirdyBirdy Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16825Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    They need something to blame to not face their crappy parenting. IMO

    If a kid like that is triggered by games it needed help anyway. Not really cool to blame it on a game that's 18+ ( again crappy parenting )
  • StarchyStarchy Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15727Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Flint Paper+Jul 29 2004, 12:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flint Paper @ Jul 29 2004, 12:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I heard the Daily Mail's headline today was "DEATH BY PLAYSTATION." Is this true?

    They'll sell an awful lot of papers. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <img src='http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/newspapers/29_july_2004/img/2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    So SO wrong. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    I don't see an elephant on the underground..

    Only HORSES.
  • StarchyStarchy Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15727Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Flint Paper+Jul 29 2004, 12:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flint Paper @ Jul 29 2004, 12:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't see an elephant on the underground..

    Only HORSES. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Exactly what I said! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Really, the things they come up with...
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Shockwave+Jul 29 2004, 11:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Jul 29 2004, 11:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> RaVe - I don't want to break your heart, but this is already underway. In the UK, they don't show the original Warner Bros cartoons anymore on standard TV, because someone (may they burn slowly over a hot fire) complained they were too violent.

    I mean, ffs. Road Runner? Tom & Jerry? *Sigh* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They don't? They were showing Bugs Bunny/Daffy Duck classic animations on BBC1 nearly every saturday or sunday morning up until a month or so ago. I remember some Road Runner in there, too.

    They're not banned at all (to whoever said that) just unscheduled. I assume it's just because the ones they were showing/had rights to show were extremely overplayed or something. Hell, I remember seeing the same ones quite a few times within a month's timespan. Too often to get much enjoyment out of them after a while.

    But then again, with the tripe they tend to put on now...rerun after rerun of WB classics doesn't really seem all that bad...

    Though I do miss the old cartoon time on Sunday afternoons of yesteryear...
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    Some day, these people are going to win, and all violent games will be banned. We'll be left with kiddie movie-game-tie-ins like "Cat In The Hat" and "The Grinch". And then they'll see what violence is. OH YES THEY WILL!

    Some day...
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    <span style='color:red'>caution, bad language in link</span>
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  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    Instead of "<i>Boy Killed by Playstation</i>" how about "<i>Desperate Journalist Blames videogames for Story</i>"
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