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  • De-generic2150De-generic2150 Join Date: 2010-01-01 Member: 69846Members Posts: 7
    I downloaded Rcbot today but every time i try to play with it
    but i can't it says it has some problems with finding the dll file
    any answers ?
  • De-generic2150De-generic2150 Join Date: 2010-01-01 Member: 69846Members Posts: 7
    QUOTE (De-generic2150 @ Jan 22 2010, 12:03 PM) »
    I downloaded Rcbot today but every time i try to play with it
    but i can't it says it has some problems with finding the dll file
    any answers ?


    Got some more detailed info here it says this when i try to start a room with bots:
    Host_Error: Couldn't get DLL API from C:\Games\Counter-Strike 1.6 + Half-Life\ns\/rcbot/dlls/rcbot.dll!
    answers ?
  • zimzumzimzum Join Date: 2004-09-02 Member: 31200Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 251 Advanced user
    If I would have to take a quick guess, I'd say it has something to do with your path.

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    Half-Life\ns\/rcbot/dlls/rcbot.dll!
    The new posts that pop up daily by some guy with 3 hours playtime who knows how to perfectly balance this game already make me want to vomit - PaLaGi
  • De-generic2150De-generic2150 Join Date: 2010-01-01 Member: 69846Members Posts: 7
    edited January 2010
    QUOTE (zimzum @ Jan 22 2010, 01:39 PM) »
    If I would have to take a quick guess, I'd say it has something to do with your path.


    And what do you mean by that ? here is a full of whats in the console after trying to turn on a server

    LoadLibrary failed on C:\Games\Counter-Strike 1.6 + Half-Life\ns\addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll (126)
    LoadLibrary failed on C:\Games\Counter-Strike 1.6 + Half-Life\ns\Half-Life\ns\/rcbotns/dlls/rcbot.dll (126)
    Host_Error: Couldn't get DLL API from C:\Games\Counter-Strike 1.6 + Half-Life\ns\Half-Life\ns\/rcbotns/dlls/rcbot.dl


    *EDIT*
    Got it fixed now i have a even more anooying problem. when ever i pick up a weapon in the Marines team the game frezzes and i have no choice but to quit. any other solutions ?
    Post edited by Unknown User on
  • FehaFeha Join Date: 2006-11-16 Member: 58633Members Posts: 914
    edited January 2010
    QUOTE (NEO_Phyte @ Jul 21 2004, 12:52 AM) »
    if i have read the RCbot information correctly, it has come a LONG-**** way from the version that worked in NS 2.0/2.01

    /me DLs to find out


    Wait, reading at the first page I saw this. Is NS 2 already released? How come I havent noticed?
  • zimzumzimzum Join Date: 2004-09-02 Member: 31200Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 251 Advanced user
    No. That quote is from 2004 and is referring to NS 1 v2.0
    The new posts that pop up daily by some guy with 3 hours playtime who knows how to perfectly balance this game already make me want to vomit - PaLaGi
  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members Posts: 3,365
    Weird. I've never had the pick-up and break problem before.

    When I installed RCBot it worked nearly flawlessly.

    I assume you've installed all the necessary stuff, like metamod, correct? Also, note that RCBot only works on certain NS maps. Specifically, the 3.1 maps. They don't have updated grids (last time I checked) for the 3.2 maps. Although I think someone was doing some work on that. Search around for it.


    Also, make sure you're using the Steam version of HL. NS3.2 doesn't work on the older versions. If you need to, register your HL copy on steam, then install NS on that copy.
    helping bring perspective and learning since the olde days

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  • De-generic2150De-generic2150 Join Date: 2010-01-01 Member: 69846Members Posts: 7
    Well you see i have NS 3.1 and i dont have metamod [nor do i know what it is >.<] my half life is a pirated one [downloaded from torrent]
    If i had a legel copy of Half Life with steam registered i wouldnt been asking the questions. Right now im playing with Whichbot against the aliens.NS mod is the most boring mode ever. you build, your enemy builds when you kill the alien when its near its spawn he attacks you as a skulk. but i gotta say over all it would have been fun to play Ns_metal with Rcbots :D but i still got the other problem which the Marine Bots try to knife skulks [already sayed in one of the front pages]
  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members Posts: 3,365
    If I recall correctly, metamod is bundled with RCBot. But, I always got the most recent version from the metamod website to make sure it works.


    Also, note that NS (even v3.1) doesn't mesh great with the out-of-date HL1, so that's probably where most of the problems are coming from.


    Something else to note. RCBot bots are really, really stupid. They basically start with a blank slate for a brain and the mesh grid on the map so that they can walk around. Then, they try to survive and get points. If they do well (get lots of points) the algorithm chooses those AIs, plants it in the next spawned bots, and does this again. So, you'll be working with pretty dumb bots for several generations (like weeks when I tried it and then quit). There may be some people out there that can bootstrap your bots with more advanced AIs but I don't know where to find them and I've deleted mine.
    helping bring perspective and learning since the olde days

    QUOTE
    <jenny> What's the plural of 'Onos'?
    <Mexican> For a while, I thought it was 'Oh ######'!


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  • FehaFeha Join Date: 2006-11-16 Member: 58633Members Posts: 914
    you mean the bots work somewhat like this game?

    http://nerogame.org/
  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members Posts: 3,365
    QUOTE (Feha @ Jan 28 2010, 08:26 AM) »
    you mean the bots work somewhat like this game?

    http://nerogame.org/


    yup. Yay neural networking + evolutionary algorithms.
    helping bring perspective and learning since the olde days

    QUOTE
    <jenny> What's the plural of 'Onos'?
    <Mexican> For a while, I thought it was 'Oh ######'!


    Vote on your Ideas/Suggestions!
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  • NossahNossah Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8234Members, Constellation Posts: 287
    First advertisement bot I've seen on here. Link to jewelry selling website in profile.
    image

    Panigg is my E-Hero.
  • jappomanjappoman Join Date: 2012-11-17 Member: 172125Members Posts: 1
    The pack of bot from the user of this forum is offline ...can you please reup that ? i want to try this game :) thank you! :)
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