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  • ModChaosControlModChaosControl HiveMind NS bot creator Join Date: 2004-03-31 Member: 27613Members
    You have RCBot installed in that line. Remove the line that says <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> gamedll "../rcbot/dlls/rcbot.dll"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> and replace it with <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    After that, go to addons\metamod\ and open plugins.ini with Notepad or a text editor. CTRL+A to select the entire contents of the file, and delete it. In plugins.ini, add the following lines:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> win32  addons/whichbot/dlls/whichbot.dll<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> win32  ../rcbot/dlls/rcbot_mm.dll<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Now start up a game and type wb add to add a whichbot to your game.
  • DarkasianssDarkasianss Join Date: 2005-08-01 Member: 57313Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ModChaosControl+Jul 20 2004, 04:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ModChaosControl @ Jul 20 2004, 04:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Name: <b>Whichbot</b>
    Current Version: <i>1.0</i>
    Website: <i> <a href='http://whichbot.com/' target='_blank'>http://whichbot.com/</a></i>
    Teams played: <i> Alien </i>

    Name: <b>RCbot</b>
    Current Version: <i>1.4</i>
    Website: <i> <a href='http://rcbot.bots-united.com/' target='_blank'>http://rcbot.bots-united.com/</a></i>
    Teams played: <i> Alien and Marine </i>

    Name: <b>Hivemind</b>
    Current Version: <i>1.0x</i>
    Website: <i> <a href='http://hivemind.gamemod.net/' target='_blank'>http://hivemind.gamemod.net/</a></i>
    Teams played: <i> Alien </i> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    rcbot dosent wok for me when i installed it, i wen to ns and tryed to make a server but nuttin happen, so i try it again the the loading thing pops up and after like the first bar pops up it exit out and it keeps on doing it but i can join a internet server <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DarkasianssDarkasianss Join Date: 2005-08-01 Member: 57313Members
    + i cant remove it and also wat is metamod and wat is won
  • tomestomes Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15524Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Darkasianss+Aug 1 2005, 10:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkasianss @ Aug 1 2005, 10:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ModChaosControl+Jul 20 2004, 04:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ModChaosControl @ Jul 20 2004, 04:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Name: <b>Whichbot</b>
    Current Version: <i>1.0</i>
    Website: <i> <a href='http://whichbot.com/' target='_blank'>http://whichbot.com/</a></i>
    Teams played: <i> Alien </i>

    Name: <b>RCbot</b>
    Current Version: <i>1.4</i>
    Website: <i> <a href='http://rcbot.bots-united.com/' target='_blank'>http://rcbot.bots-united.com/</a></i>
    Teams played: <i> Alien and Marine </i>

    Name: <b>Hivemind</b>
    Current Version: <i>1.0x</i>
    Website: <i> <a href='http://hivemind.gamemod.net/' target='_blank'>http://hivemind.gamemod.net/</a></i>
    Teams played: <i> Alien </i> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    rcbot dosent wok for me when i installed it, i wen to ns and tryed to make a server but nuttin happen, so i try it again the the loading thing pops up and after like the first bar pops up it exit out and it keeps on doing it but i can join a internet server <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Read again the instruction of RCbot and try install it. It should works. In can play with all bots.
  • DarkasianssDarkasianss Join Date: 2005-08-01 Member: 57313Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-tomes+Aug 2 2005, 02:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tomes @ Aug 2 2005, 02:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Darkasianss+Aug 1 2005, 10:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkasianss @ Aug 1 2005, 10:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ModChaosControl+Jul 20 2004, 04:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ModChaosControl @ Jul 20 2004, 04:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Name: <b>Whichbot</b>
    Current Version: <i>1.0</i>
    Website: <i> <a href='http://whichbot.com/' target='_blank'>http://whichbot.com/</a></i>
    Teams played: <i> Alien </i>

    Name: <b>RCbot</b>
    Current Version: <i>1.4</i>
    Website: <i> <a href='http://rcbot.bots-united.com/' target='_blank'>http://rcbot.bots-united.com/</a></i>
    Teams played: <i> Alien and Marine </i>

    Name: <b>Hivemind</b>
    Current Version: <i>1.0x</i>
    Website: <i> <a href='http://hivemind.gamemod.net/' target='_blank'>http://hivemind.gamemod.net/</a></i>
    Teams played: <i> Alien </i> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    rcbot dosent wok for me when i installed it, i wen to ns and tryed to make a server but nuttin happen, so i try it again the the loading thing pops up and after like the first bar pops up it exit out and it keeps on doing it but i can join a internet server <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Read again the instruction of RCbot and try install it. It should works. In can play with all bots. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    wut instructions <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=96780' target='_blank'>Duel of the Bots, Phase II</a>.
  • tomestomes Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15524Members
    U must read rcbot_readme.txt =instruction. This file is in folder of RCBot.
  • DarkasianssDarkasianss Join Date: 2005-08-01 Member: 57313Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-tomes+Aug 3 2005, 02:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tomes @ Aug 3 2005, 02:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> U must read rcbot_readme.txt =instruction. This file is in folder of RCBot. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it says ::use at your own risk:: Use this to automatically set the mods liblist.gam or metamod's plugins.ini file
  • ModChaosControlModChaosControl HiveMind NS bot creator Join Date: 2004-03-31 Member: 27613Members
    <b> Hivemind 1.1x</b> has been released. You can get the latest version at <a href='http://hivemind.gamemod.net/' target='_blank'>http://hivemind.gamemod.net/</a>

    Changelog includes:
    [v1.1x]
     Longstanding combat bug fixed: bots now jump and bhop in combat.
     Implemented wall walk for co_angst (the lift)
     Added support for co_angst.

    Also, the Hivemind website has changed, you can now visit us at <a href='http://hivemind.gamemod.net' target='_blank'>http://hivemind.gamemod.net</a>, not <a href='http://hivemind.game-mod.net/' target='_blank'>http://hivemind.game-mod.net/</a>

    -[MoD]Cha0s C0ntr0L
    Hivemind Developer
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    ModChaosControl, I must plead ignorance regarding your mod. How would you rate it, intelligence wise, alongside Whichbot?

    <span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>(perhaps yet another duel would be needed?)</span>
  • ModChaosControlModChaosControl HiveMind NS bot creator Join Date: 2004-03-31 Member: 27613Members
    In some areas, WhichBot is better (IE: tactics, lifeform specific code) and in some areas Hivemind is better (building strategy, you can specify how the bots play, etc)

    I'd prefer if someone else compared them, and perhaps another duel is needed, as I hate bragging how "ub3r 1337" my work is. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • tomestomes Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15524Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ModChaosControl+Aug 6 2005, 12:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ModChaosControl @ Aug 6 2005, 12:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <b> Hivemind 1.1x</b> has been released. You can get the latest version at <a href='http://hivemind.gamemod.net/' target='_blank'>http://hivemind.gamemod.net/</a>

    Changelog includes:
    [v1.1x]
     Longstanding combat bug fixed: bots now jump and bhop in combat.
     Implemented wall walk for co_angst (the lift)
     Added support for co_angst.

    Also, the Hivemind website has changed, you can now visit us at <a href='http://hivemind.gamemod.net' target='_blank'>http://hivemind.gamemod.net</a>, not <a href='http://hivemind.game-mod.net/' target='_blank'>http://hivemind.game-mod.net/</a>

    -[MoD]Cha0s C0ntr0L
    Hivemind Developer <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Good, im goind to post news in www.natural-selection.pl
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    edited August 2005
    ModChaosControl: I installed Hivemind and show it as running. However, it spams this error in console when I change to a waypointed map,
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->08:30:28 L 08/07/2005 - 08:30:25: [META] WARNING: Plugin didn't set meta_result: hivemind.dll:DispatchKeyValue()<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    When I type "hive_add" in console no bot is added. Win32HLDS.

    <span style='color:red'>*edit*</span>If you'd like Hivemind bots to participate in a Duel of the Bots, Phase III, you'll need to waypoint co_ulysses for it. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • tomestomes Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15524Members
    edited October 2006
    As we know Hivemind project is dead, so we have only 2 bots: rcbot & whichbot. i have made pack which includes these two bots + waypoints & metamod. Only think u should do is extract this file into your halflife folder. More info u will find inside this pack.
    download: <a href="https://www.pivnaslama.nazwa.pl/tomes/boty.rar" target="_blank">mirror1</a>
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    Could a mod edit the topic, since Hivemind is no longer around?
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1568934:date=Oct 3 2006, 07:33 PM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Oct 3 2006, 07:33 PM) [snapback]1568934[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Could a mod edit the topic, since Hivemind is no longer around?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Done <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
  • FFSkyriderFFSkyrider Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58211Members
    I don't really like RCbot, It is not working properly for me. Whenever I try to access the menu, it says I don't have the access. While my username, password and access level has been set up in the users file, and I also set the password in game so it should work. But I still get "no access". Perhaps because I'm using the latest metamod version? I'm not rather sure.
  • tomestomes Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15524Members
    WhichBot 1.04 has been released. <a href="http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1642641&forum_id=262471" target="_blank">link</a>
  • GreyFlcnGreyFlcn Join Date: 2006-12-19 Member: 59134Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1596214:date=Jan 8 2007, 09:49 AM:name=tomes)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tomes @ Jan 8 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]1596214[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    WhichBot 1.04 has been released. <a href="http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1642641&forum_id=262471" target="_blank">link</a>
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    GreyFlcn:

    * Fixed memory leak.

    Well that's good to know.
    I really liked having whichbots on my Auraxis Server, (greyfalcon.net/Auraxis)
    but I was starting to give up on them due to server crashes when the map changes.
    (Which was odd, since it'd crash when the map changed, usually after running a wb balance off command right after the map had ended. When there there was no bots on.)

    Hopefully this new code fixes the crashes.

    _

    Also it'd be awesome to get some more map support for the bots,
    and of course support for 3.2 maps when the final version comes out.
  • Demon_Polar_BearDemon_Polar_Bear Join Date: 2007-06-17 Member: 61285Members
    I think its great that they are working on the bots. Its nice to see them making em more lifelike instead of having them just run into walls all day and getting stuck places It will make the game whole lot better when in the presence of a silly little bot
  • SpiceWeasel[ABC]SpiceWeasel[ABC] Join Date: 2007-12-16 Member: 63193Members
    Just to be an off topic weasel.................I have to ask Neo if that quote in his sig is from Hackmaster? Sounds very much like it came right outta the spellslingers guide to wurld domination hahahahaha.
  • Dalin SeivewrightDalin Seivewright 0x0000221E Join Date: 2007-10-20 Member: 62685Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1685227:date=Aug 3 2008, 10:54 PM:name=SpiceWeasel[ABC])--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SpiceWeasel[ABC] @ Aug 3 2008, 10:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685227"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Just to be an off topic weasel.................I have to ask Neo if that quote in his sig is from Hackmaster? Sounds very much like it came right outta the spellslingers guide to wurld domination hahahahaha.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Em...
    You do know this is a very old thread... right?
  • maxwellcofemaxwellcofe Join Date: 2006-12-02 Member: 58848Members
    nice, a thread that is killing the game/community

    grats
  • snowblindausnowblindau Join Date: 2008-02-17 Member: 63663Members, Constellation
    edited November 2008
    <!--quoteo(post=1692117:date=Nov 2 2008, 03:57 PM:name=maxwellcofe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(maxwellcofe @ Nov 2 2008, 03:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692117"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->nice, a thread that is killing the game/community

    grats<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns/forums/index.php?showtopic=103429&st=0&p=1664062&#entry1664062" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns/forums/ind...p;#entry1664062</a>

    cause you sure know what you're talking about.


    The game and community are already dead - partly because of the lack of new players coming to the game because of the site being down for so long before and partly because the lack of uniformity between servers - different custom plugins/etc, not to mention the massive division of players between two game modes which basically mean that players will stick to the same few servers because they like it or are good at it, and eventually get bored and stop playing.

    Custom didn't kill NS.
    Combat didn't kill NS.
    Bots didn't kill NS.

    The lack of uniformity and subsequent division of the community is what did.

    In any case, i'm not derailing another thread into "NS IS DEAD, X KILLED NS" etc so kindly stfu or be constructive
  • Jeffman12Jeffman12 Join Date: 2008-12-05 Member: 65662Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    RCbot's site is down, for me at least, so I just went to the bots-united download page, that's <a href="http://filebase.bots-united.com/" target="_blank">here</a> for those interested. Just thought I should mention it.
  • Syntax Of LimboSyntax Of Limbo Join Date: 2007-10-26 Member: 62743Members
  • SekerSeker Join Date: 2007-03-06 Member: 60259Members
    A whichbot site is here <a href="http://whichbot.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://whichbot.sourceforge.net/</a>

    Hivemind is still possible to find here <a href="http://www.moddb.com/mods/natural-selection-hivemind-ai" target="_blank">http://www.moddb.com/mods/natural-selection-hivemind-ai</a>

    And this is Khabot <a href="http://www.customfactor.com/Forum/index.php?topic=2750.0" target="_blank">http://www.customfactor.com/Forum/index.php?topic=2750.0</a> (need to register at the forums though)
  • zimzumzimzum Join Date: 2004-09-02 Member: 31200Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    use this link for the latest Whichbot (v1.05)
    <a href="http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=76903" target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=76903</a>

    if you go to the homepage in Seker's link and use that download you'll end up with v1.02 which has issues.

    HiveMind went under, there is no support and work on the project stopped some time ago - also, it doesn't play well with dedicated servers.
    While work on WB seems to have ceased as well, it does work with dedicated and listen servers and works with the latest version of NS.
  • TinCanTinCan Join Date: 2006-12-11 Member: 59010Members
    This is an old thread:

    The linux 1.05 version of Whichbot still reports as ver 1.02 after install but there is debate if it is a typo.
    <a href="http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1652105&forum_id=262471" target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thr...forum_id=262471</a>


    The most stable version of RCBot seems to be LordSkitch's 1.04 version (Windows only)
    <a href="http://rcbot.bots-united.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1011" target="_blank">http://rcbot.bots-united.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1011</a>
  • zimzumzimzum Join Date: 2004-09-02 Member: 31200Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    yeah, i know it's an old thread - just helping seker out.

    the [KcK]KustomKarnage server runs linux and their whichbot version displays as v1.05.

    just putting that out there.
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