If you watch TV, you're going to be filled with negativitiy. It seems that moping around and being depressed is what's cool for the 2000's, so most TV programs will help you on your way.
I just think it's funny how so many people are convinced that they're the "morality police".
1) It's not for YOU to decide what is right or wrong.
2) If you still belive that it is wrong, it's either legally wrong, or religiously wrong. Legally, it's the job of the police to stop these activities. Religiously, you can have faith that they'll get what they deserved on the otherside.
3) Even if you were judge and jury, you don't have the right to make choices for people. If someone wants to have pit fights he's either prepaired for the legal actions that can be taken against him (or hell) or doesn't belive that it's morally wrong. That's his choice to make, and no other.
EX: Some people think it's morally wrong to eat pork. Some people belive that it is a sin punishable by damnation. I however belive that pork is tasty, and have no objections to eating it. Is it the duty of every person against the eating of pork to form an organization and ban it?
EDIT: And back to suffering. Everything suffers. Life is a process of suffing. As someone who belives so highly in morals, you may take note that suffering is an important way of life as described by old texts. Suffering practically means learning, so stop using that word as some sort of catch all argument.
<!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Jul 8 2004, 01:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Jul 8 2004, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Listen, I'm not saying that that's the only thing wrong with humanity. I know we treat our own speecies like crap, but it still sickens me how people can be so cruel. The dog fighting and the puppy that had it's flesh torn from its bones because people trained a pit bull to kill it is just one example of what is wrong with the human race.
You think that's the only thing that I hate about humanity?
Of course I hate how people kill and mame each other, this was just an example. I don't get what is so wrong... I was just pointing out that humanity is hatefull, and I think a lot of the replys in this thread go to proove that. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I was pointing out that you didnt need to make the point because everyone knows it already and you can do nothing about it. Either join the police force or the 'Animal Police', dont whine on here.
And you can spout on about how people care only for themselves as much as you want, in the end you wont change a thing, trust me, it's been tried.
<!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Jul 9 2004, 03:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Jul 9 2004, 03:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I guess some people really don't care about anything but themselves and their own wellbeing... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually, I only care about the well-being of the human race, and right now the biggest threat to that is the human race. As long as you keep the animal populations steady it dosen't matter what happens to them...
<!--QuoteBegin-5kyh16h91+Jul 8 2004, 07:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Jul 8 2004, 07:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm very interested in these Korean and Japanese "tribes" you speak of that don't make any pollution and live off the land.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Noo... I meant the Japanese. And then the tribes as a seperate part. And if you look in South Kenya next to the Maasai Mara National Reserve there is a tribe or two. Btw I meant Kenya not Korea <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Caboose - I find it ironic that you find animal abuse so appalling when your avatar is of a beaten child... I grant you it's not a "real" image - but it's still sick.
YES, animal abuse is BAD... Horrible... Shouldn't happen. But you know what... it does. Police it, try to make it better - but at least some of these people are abusing animals instead of having children. Alas, some of them do have kids. Some of the people abusers don't have animals...Think if you got to see a show strictly about THAT. It is a cruel world.
Anyway, I just watched something that should never happen, though it did. Some guys shove a cat in a cage, pour gas on it, and light it up. The crys/gargles that poor thing makes makes me want to kill someone.
<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Jul 10 2004, 03:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jul 10 2004, 03:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why? Are you somehow connected to that cat? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> [sarcasm]Yes. It was his cat.[/sarcasm]
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<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Jul 10 2004, 10:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jul 10 2004, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why? Are you somehow connected to that cat? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> this is the part where you take your fake nonchalance and shove it... you know?
My avatar is me as a baby. It's not a beaten child, but a zombie. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> It's my sig/avatar from the ZP forums, I just like my sig/avatar.
BTW, this world would be better off without the human race.
Agent Smith puts it very well. <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <b>AGENT SMITH:</b> Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment. But you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area.
There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus.
Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Anyway, the <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->actually, I only care about the well-being of the human race<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> still applys to my statement. Why not care about the well being of all living organisms?
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<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Jul 10 2004, 11:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jul 10 2004, 11:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why? Are you somehow connected to that cat? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No, because it sucks for the cat.
Good God. And you just figured this out? Or did it just hit you harder now that you saw something like the pitbull thing you were talking about?
The impression I get is that you're are one of them perfect little mormons that hasn't a clue of what pain is...
Now that my harsh comments are said.
I would like to see teh media show heads being chopped off, arms being ripped by machine gun fire, so that people will wake up and realize there not living in a dream world (this is to all them rich spoiled brats in my city that have 100 grand escalades).
No, I am not Morman, I am Buddhist. I know all about suffering since that is one of the main things in Buddhism.
The fact that I post this a few days ago does not mean that it's not how I felt before, but rather the first time I decided to post about it here. Seeing anything mistreated, weather it be a puppy, or a human being makes me sick.
<!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Jul 10 2004, 01:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Jul 10 2004, 01:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Jul 10 2004, 10:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jul 10 2004, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why? Are you somehow connected to that cat? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> this is the part where you take your fake nonchalance and shove it... you know? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh sorry. I guess no souless bastards are allowed on these forums. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->AGENT SMITH: Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment. But you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area.
There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus.
Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I would just like to point out this makes no sense because it's well a known fact that humans stop reproducing in an area once resources become too scarce, much like any other animal.
Agent Smith's quote is quite simply, ignorant and retarded.
okay, now that that's out of the way. continue with the pointless teen angst...
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<!--QuoteBegin-Beast+Jul 10 2004, 04:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Beast @ Jul 10 2004, 04:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have yet to find a natural purpose for humans. Care to enlighten me what humans are naturally supposed to do? o.o <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu**.
<!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Jul 10 2004, 07:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Jul 10 2004, 07:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Beast+Jul 10 2004, 04:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Beast @ Jul 10 2004, 04:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have yet to find a natural purpose for humans. Care to enlighten me what humans are naturally supposed to do? o.o <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu**. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And they do a damn good job at it. 8 billion plus strong!!! w00t for humans!
Comments
Indeed.
Some people suck, some people don't.
If you watch TV, you're going to be filled with negativitiy. It seems that moping around and being depressed is what's cool for the 2000's, so most TV programs will help you on your way.
1) It's not for YOU to decide what is right or wrong.
2) If you still belive that it is wrong, it's either legally wrong, or religiously wrong. Legally, it's the job of the police to stop these activities. Religiously, you can have faith that they'll get what they deserved on the otherside.
3) Even if you were judge and jury, you don't have the right to make choices for people. If someone wants to have pit fights he's either prepaired for the legal actions that can be taken against him (or hell) or doesn't belive that it's morally wrong. That's his choice to make, and no other.
EX: Some people think it's morally wrong to eat pork. Some people belive that it is a sin punishable by damnation. I however belive that pork is tasty, and have no objections to eating it. Is it the duty of every person against the eating of pork to form an organization and ban it?
EDIT: And back to suffering. Everything suffers. Life is a process of suffing. As someone who belives so highly in morals, you may take note that suffering is an important way of life as described by old texts. Suffering practically means learning, so stop using that word as some sort of catch all argument.
How would you like being put in a cage with (hmmm...) a ninja who wanted to kill you because somebody thought it would be fun to watch?
Yea, life is full of suffering, that's a given, but why not try to alleviate some of that suffering? What's wrong with feeling bad for another life?
I guess some people really don't care about anything but themselves and their own wellbeing...
You think that's the only thing that I hate about humanity?
Of course I hate how people kill and mame each other, this was just an example. I don't get what is so wrong... I was just pointing out that humanity is hatefull, and I think a lot of the replys in this thread go to proove that. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was pointing out that you didnt need to make the point because everyone knows it already and you can do nothing about it. Either join the police force or the 'Animal Police', dont whine on here.
And you can spout on about how people care only for themselves as much as you want, in the end you wont change a thing, trust me, it's been tried.
Actually, I only care about the well-being of the human race, and right now the biggest threat to that is the human race. As long as you keep the animal populations steady it dosen't matter what happens to them...
Noo... I meant the Japanese. And then the tribes as a seperate part. And if you look in South Kenya next to the Maasai Mara National Reserve there is a tribe or two. Btw I meant Kenya not Korea <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
YES, animal abuse is BAD... Horrible... Shouldn't happen. But you know what... it does. Police it, try to make it better - but at least some of these people are abusing animals instead of having children. Alas, some of them do have kids. Some of the people abusers don't have animals...Think if you got to see a show strictly about THAT. It is a cruel world.
That's wrong?
Anyway, I just watched something that should never happen, though it did. Some guys shove a cat in a cage, pour gas on it, and light it up. The crys/gargles that poor thing makes makes me want to kill someone.
[sarcasm]Yes. It was his cat.[/sarcasm]
this is the part where you take your fake nonchalance and shove it... you know?
BTW, this world would be better off without the human race.
Agent Smith puts it very well.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
<b>AGENT SMITH:</b> Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment. But you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area.
There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus.
Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Anyway, the <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->actually, I only care about the well-being of the human race<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> still applys to my statement. Why not care about the well being of all living organisms?
No, because it sucks for the cat.
Good God. And you just figured this out? Or did it just hit you harder now that you saw something like the pitbull thing you were talking about?
The impression I get is that you're are one of them perfect little mormons that hasn't a clue of what pain is...
Now that my harsh comments are said.
I would like to see teh media show heads being chopped off, arms being ripped by machine gun fire, so that people will wake up and realize there not living in a dream world (this is to all them rich spoiled brats in my city that have 100 grand escalades).
Liku:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That's wrong?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, when it gets to a certain extent (abuse).
The fact that I post this a few days ago does not mean that it's not how I felt before, but rather the first time I decided to post about it here. Seeing anything mistreated, weather it be a puppy, or a human being makes me sick.
this is the part where you take your fake nonchalance and shove it... you know? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh sorry. I guess no souless bastards are allowed on these forums. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus.
Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I would just like to point out this makes no sense because it's well a known fact that humans stop reproducing in an area once resources become too scarce, much like any other animal.
Agent Smith's quote is quite simply, ignorant and retarded.
okay, now that that's out of the way. continue with the pointless teen angst...
Care to enlighten me what humans are naturally supposed to do?
o.o
Care to enlighten me what humans are naturally supposed to do?
o.o <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu**.
Care to enlighten me what humans are naturally supposed to do?
o.o <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu**. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
And they do a damn good job at it. 8 billion plus strong!!! w00t for humans!
BTW, what is the population of wolves?