Tsa Hmg

Sid

<div class="IPBDescription">Horizontal Drum cocnept</div> First off - I just want to say hello... I haven't been on in ages (My computer was down for two months) - and I entirely forgot about this concept.

I think I got the idea after playing 'Red Orchestra' for UT2004. (Good mod, by the way). I noticed on the Russian Machinegun, how it had a drum mag, but it was mounted on the top of the firearm, horizontally.

So this gave me an idea...

First of all, a few things:
The Horizontal Drum mag is on the bottom, where it does not affect the ironsights or railmount.
The stock is extendable. (In the pic it is shown almost in).
The stock is huge for a reason - do you know how big the shoulder pads for HA is?! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Anyways, Enjoy.
-Sid

wnn

Wow, Sid you have really outdone yourself this time !

Welcome back btw. :)

Chrono

Sid YOUR ALIVE! <span style='color:red'><3</span>
ya as nirss said youve realy outdone yourself here nice comback

Sid

Wow, thanks so much guys. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Well - I'm on the craptastic lagmaster 6000 computer - my other (good) computer (with the concept on it) - is down at the shop. Again.

Anyways, while I wait on the condition of my other comp - any suggestions for this concept?

Thanks for your time,
-Sid <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

CaptainPanaka

hm... don't know why... but when looking at this.... mhm

I always had an HMG more like the TFC AC in mind.... with ammo in a backpack and stuff.... would fit this concept quite well <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Sid

Well - then there's a simple solution to that - just remove the Horizontal Drum and add a belt leading into an Ammo Backpack. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

TheUdderOne

Did u do what one of my friends did:

<img src='http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/hsf_tt_p4_spark7/images/12-thermal-paste.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Ah!!!! The thermal paste!

Sid

Um, what...? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Ratonetwothreetwoone

isnt that where the processor goes?

rabbity

it doesnt look long enough, its more of a shotgun length that an mg, compact hmg?

REDDmonkey

very nice concept sid <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> i dont remember seeing any of your concepts before, then i saw this <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->, ill have a look around for some more. I just got time to finish this, tell me what you think:

sorry for the quick + bad render

CoolCookieCooks

PC? also it has no trigger <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

REDDmonkey

lol, damn you for asking for the pc >_< its about 3300, which i hope to cut down on if people want this. Added the trigger, heres the gun from a different view:

edit* changed something that cookie pointed out with the ring type bit, its now more square

Kaine

rip off the stock, make the front handle a pump and this would be a pwn shotgun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

TheUdderOne

Yes that was where the processor should have been, but instead ended up being covered in a rather liberal spreading of thermal paste...

Nice model REDD, as per usual...ent u got poly crush as u'r on the PA team? Use it on this!

CaptainPanaka

<!--QuoteBegin-CoolCookieCooks+Jun 20 2004, 05:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CoolCookieCooks @ Jun 20 2004, 05:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> PC? also it has no trigger <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
and where did the mag go...? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->

REDDmonkey

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->and where did the mag go...?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
isnt it the bit just behind the foregrip? or do you mean i didnt model it?

Thanks udder <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, whats poly crush? lol <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

CaptainPanaka

<!--QuoteBegin-REDDmonkey+Jun 20 2004, 08:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (REDDmonkey @ Jun 20 2004, 08:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> isnt it the bit just behind the foregrip? or do you mean i didnt model it?

Thanks udder  <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, whats poly crush? lol  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
uh... from as far as I read, the thing IS the mag... yep... but shouldn't this be a drum mag? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

/edit: btw... don't get me wrong... I really like it... in fact this one looks better than with a drum mag... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

but... uh... the concept says "drum" mag... that's all.
I still would like to see the ammo in a backpack...

REDDmonkey

ahh i think i get you, thanks for the comment. Im still confused though lol, whats the difference between a drum mag and what ive modelled from the concept? I'm still learning <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> which is why i know very little about guns other than what ive learnt from looking at them from side views. I need to find more reference pics for my models i guess, to make them a bit more accurate. Something that most (or all) of them lack

edit* spellings and things <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

CaptainPanaka

Drum mag:

<img src='http://world.guns.ru/smg/ppsh41.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

But I think Sid had something like that in mind:

<img src='http://world.guns.ru/machine/dpm.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

rabbity

some parts shouldnt be chamfered, to keep the polies down
<img src='http://members.lycos.co.uk/rabbiteh/drum.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
i think sid wanted the drum to be something like this, as he did mention about the russian mg, its a horizontal drum magazine

CaptainPanaka

yep... that's what I meant <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

TheUdderOne

According to u'r mods webby site...u've got a license for Polygon Crusher...means u can have really high poly models and use Polygon Crusher to knock em down in size.

Seph_Kimara

<a href='http://club.guns.ru/eng/bizon.html' target='_blank'>http://club.guns.ru/eng/bizon.html</a>

That's how the magazine would look like. No need for a drum, the one he has now suits the model rather well, IMO.

Only thing I don't really like about it is the stock. It Just looks...odd to me. But REALLY nice otherwise.

Chrono

i agree with rabbity the clip is not a bizon mag or anything like that im pretty sure he meant a drum clip on its side

Drfuzzy

Please do a new stock >_<

And keep all the little holes in it, dont let the suxorz pc people ruin a good model <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

REDDmonkey

thanks guys <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> i quite like the mag as it is too. I will mesh this if there are people that will skin, anim etc. So would anyone do that?

And udder lol, i didnt know we had that >_< thanks for telling me though <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ill take a look at it

rabbity

if you wanna make it like a bizon mag, at least make it bigger, at least half the size of the gun, because its too tiny right now, doesnt look like something that hold hmg bullets

Sid

Edit: Double post.

Sid

Woah woah woah WOAH! <i>WOAH</i>

Wow. Sorry that I haven't been on latley - I had this topic hooked up into a subscription so it would E-mail me when someone replied - but the strange fact is - it <i>hasn't</i> been emailing me replies. SO SORRY guys.

First of all: Red! Amazing model! AMAZING!

And yes, I was talking about the Drum Captain Panakka was talking about. AGagin - I am so sorry.

Sid

Oh - and another thing - Redd, you mentioned that you were thinking of meshing and whatnot? I'm sorry - but I haven't been on for a while - so has this been meshed..?

Thanks for your time,
-Sid