Just Beat Ninja Gaiden

DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">pwns pwns pwns</div>Man this game pwns...

Anybody else beat it? If so, see below (Spoilers if you haven't beaten it) cause there are a couple things I'm just not understanding...


***POTENTIAL SPOILERS***

Did Ryu really die at the end of Stage 2? He looked pretty dead in the cutscene. And then there was that deal w/ the owl spirit coming down and such, and at the end of the ending cinematic Ryu jumps off a ledge and the owl flies back up to the moon...

When the heck does this game take place anyway, in regards to the original series timeline? Methinks its either a prequel. Ryu mentions his father being not dead, which means either Ninja Gaiden 1 hasn't happened yet, OR this Ryu is actually the classic Ninja Gaiden Ryu's son. I think prequel is a bit more likely, but that's just me.

Who was the chick who died w/ the glowing jewel in her hands? Did she have a name and serve any purpose other than dying w/ the jewel in her hands?


The other chick, who threw you the notes attached to a knife. Was she aware of the.. errm... trechary (without saying it too directly for those that are reading this and shouldn't be)? She had a guilty look about her in the ending cutscene...

***/POTENTIAL SPOILERS***


This game had some great homages to the classic series. For example, one of the throws you get is straight from the classic Arcade version of Ninja Gaiden which I bet none of you ever played. It pretty much sucked except for the throw. :P

Also they had the fire wheel spell, but what I really liked was that the final key to the boss realm was the The Dark Statue of the Demon from Ninja Gaiden 1, in 3D and all prettied up.

<img src='http://www.classicgaming.com/ninjagaiden/gallery/darkstat.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
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  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    I have not beaten Ninja Gaiden yet, bu yeah, it pwns. Everytime I play it, I can just imagine the developers making the game...
    "Devs: I want this game to <b>literally</b> take l33t ninja skillz to beat! Bring in the playtesters!
    Playtesters: HWAAAA!! *Beats game in five seconds* Too easy, young grasshopper!"
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    Flails>Everything <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> [also of note: probably spoilers for some people ahead]

    60 hit combos are commonplace - even on simple little enemies. Vagoorian (think that's it) Flails = wootage. Had to take it back though, I think I was getting close to the end...I remember getting the thing that lets you breathe under water indfiniately, but I think I was further than that.

    Lava Dragon and the one boss in the sewer/aqueduct place are the coolest bosses...They're awesome and they look cool. They're also not overly hard like most of the others...

    Especially the one in the church...blech, she's so cheap with her flying around and throwing stuff, picking you up and then beam cannon-ing you. I think I'll buy it, once I've got a couple of other games out of the way first. It's fun, but I don't think it has the greatest replay value (although I hear one of the end unlockable things is cool.

    Those ninjas that throw exploding shurikens were really, really annoying for a long time: then you learn to wall jump; Y button in mid-air, leap back to wall before getting hit; repeat <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    I thought the church fight was the easiest boss fight in the whole game...
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    Well, since the bosses' moves are randomized (sortof) you might have had her to easier combos. It's mostly a pain in the butt because she can fly around.

    On another note: the first boss is kindof hard because you're still getting used to the game, and it's easy once you figure out that you can just bound off the wall and come down on him repeatedly. Lava dragon is still my favorite - maybe because it was one of the few obvious 'hey, your map has a giant cavern on it: boss fight ahead' moments. Some of them just sneak up on you <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    *Super Ninja Bump!*

    Shurikens are awesome. So very awesome.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    shurikens are indeed awesome. Especially predator shurikens
  • TransmissionTransmission Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14456Members
    I'll try and answer some questions.

    ***SPOILERS***

    We're not sure if Ryu really died after getting countered by Doku. However, the common idea is that the raven (not owl, also it's a raven because of his name, Hayabusa, means Raven) "resurrected" him. Another idea is that Murai healed Ryu or resurrected him using demon magic or something. The raven reappears because that is his clan guardian spirit thingy.

    I'm not sure when the game takes place in regards to the other Gaidens, but it's before the whole DOA tournaments.

    The chick who died, or Kureha, was Ryu's childhood friend and fellow guardian of the Dragon Sword Crystal and Dark Dragon Sword. The "glowy thing" was the crystal which she was trying to give to Ryu so he could get the True Dragon Sword right there, but Ryu was dumb and just put it on her grave instead.

    Ayane, who threw the orchid (I think its orchid) kunai to guide you probably had no idea that she was working for a demon as well as the Dark Disciple (emporer dude). She was just being raised by him as a ninja since her clan wanted her to be raised in secret, so they sent her to him. She goes on to be a character in the DOA series. My idea is that she was guilty at the end when she realised the truth.

    ***SPOILERS***
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+May 22 2004, 08:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ May 22 2004, 08:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...but what I really liked was that the final key to the boss realm was the The Dark Statue of the Demon from Ninja Gaiden 1, in 3D and all prettied up.

    <img src='http://www.classicgaming.com/ninjagaiden/gallery/darkstat.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    :cool:
    It's too bad all these r337 sequels are made for consoles...
  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
    thinking of ninja gaiden 1 makes my head hurt
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Align+May 23 2004, 04:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ May 23 2004, 04:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+May 22 2004, 08:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ May 22 2004, 08:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...but what I really liked was that the final key to the boss realm was the The Dark Statue of the Demon from Ninja Gaiden 1, in 3D and all prettied up.

    <img src='http://www.classicgaming.com/ninjagaiden/gallery/darkstat.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    :cool:
    It's too bad all these r337 sequels are made for consoles... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah.. just like the originals.. i mean what the hell when the original 3 are on console why not make the other for pc, right? :P



    Oh and Transmission, WTH does ninja gaiden have to do with Dead Or Alive? O.o I mean you don't go adding stuff to the Zelda timeline cause Link was in Soul Calibur do ya? :P
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Umm.. Link was in SC... where?
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-WoT|Lanfear+May 23 2004, 05:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (WoT|Lanfear @ May 23 2004, 05:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Umm.. Link was in SC... where? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Soul Calibur II, he was the GameCube exclusive character.
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Liku you must find me new Zelda pictures ;p
  • docchimpydocchimpy Join Date: 2003-07-19 Member: 18266Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Transmission+May 23 2004, 04:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Transmission @ May 23 2004, 04:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->

    I'm not sure when the game takes place in regards to the other Gaidens, but it's before the whole DOA tournaments.

    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ***SPOILERS?***
    Wait...the main character in Ninja Gaiden is one of the chars in Dead or Alive? If so, they should have left him in 1337n1nj4 mode.
  • FacTorFacTor Wyoming, MI Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10916Members
    I have a question about Ninja Gaiden.

    I havn't played it yet because I seen screenshots of it and..well, it looks like the kind of games I hate mose. Is it 1 on 1's? Like Tekken and such? Cause those are just horrible games..
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    No. I haven't even played it and know the answer to this(sorry): Its sometimes 3 on 1, and I've heard of 50 or more on 1. |337ness.
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-FacTor+May 23 2004, 07:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FacTor @ May 23 2004, 07:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have a question about Ninja Gaiden.

    I havn't played it yet because I seen screenshots of it and..well, it looks like the kind of games I hate mose. Is it 1 on 1's? Like Tekken and such? Cause those are just horrible games.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It is not a figthing game in that sense. It is more or less a platform game.
  • frostymoosefrostymoose Join Date: 2003-09-12 Member: 20799Members
    ahh...I need to rent it again after finals are done. I'm on chapter 11 - caverns. definately the hardest part of the game so far.
  • TransmissionTransmission Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14456Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-FacTor+May 23 2004, 08:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FacTor @ May 23 2004, 08:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have a question about Ninja Gaiden.

    I havn't played it yet because I seen screenshots of it and..well, it looks like the kind of games I hate mose. Is it 1 on 1's? Like Tekken and such? Cause those are just horrible games.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The most you'll ever probably face is 8 v 1, but it ranges for everything in between. More often than not though, it's 3 or 4 vs you.

    And Doom, at least this version of Ninja Gaiden is in the same "world" so to speak as DOA, as the characters are supposed to go on to there. So says my friend with DOA, so I might be horribly wrong.
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    Now I remember <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> .

    I had just put the 4 keys in place in that demon infested place, under the castle.

    I hate those ghost fish...they're so annoying - take off so much health, and the only defense is fireshield magic or swinging your flails like a madman and hoping they don't get in during any of the open spots.

    I wanna lay some smack down on those damned fish, send them back to demon-land where they belong. First time I saw them, I thought they were a deterrent and not an enemy because I couldn't think of a way to get passed them...

    That ended in my looking around the Labyrinth entrance for a good 10 minutes before just running in there and dieing 2 or 3 times before casting electric ninpo and owning everything (level 3 electic > you <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> - despite fire shield being more effective against the ghost fishies).


    I should re-rent it for the extras I've heard about before [spoilers] which include NG 1 and 2 and something really cool no one wants to talk about because it's an alternate costume or something - and I don't want to know until I beat it.
  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    The electric eel boss annoyed me to no end for some reason.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    The alternative costume sucks. Its like a silver football player/robot ninja with one of those plasma swords the security guards carried early in the game. It sucks.


    Oh and Ninja Gaiden 3 is also in the game. I'm playing through a second time and there's still 4 scarabs I gotta find :X :X :X

    And yes, the fish suck. A lot. Man they suck.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-WoT|Lanfear+May 23 2004, 05:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (WoT|Lanfear @ May 23 2004, 05:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Liku you must find me new Zelda pictures ;p <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Once they're released, sure.
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oh and Ninja Gaiden 3 is also in the game. I'm playing through a second time and there's still 4 scarabs I gotta find :X :X :X
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wasn't 2 more Streets of Rage, and 3 had Aliens?
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+May 23 2004, 11:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ May 23 2004, 11:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh and Ninja Gaiden 3 is also in the game. I'm playing through a second time and there's still 4 scarabs I gotta find :X :X :X <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I know where they are. If you're getting to the point where you feel the need to reach out and stab someone in frustration, I <i>could</i> tell you where they all are.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    ? Ninja Gaiden 3 didn't have scarabs...
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited May 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Align+May 24 2004, 09:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ May 24 2004, 09:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->? Ninja Gaiden 3 didn't have scarabs...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    *** SPOILER ***

    <span style='color:black'>If you find all the Scrabs in <i>Ninja Gaiden</i> you get NG3.</span>

    *** END SPOILER ***
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    No dragon, that's wrong.

    And I won't bother w/ puttnig it in spoiler tags cause its not a spoiler...

    All 50 scarabs unlocked the original NES Ninja Gaiden.
    After you get NG1, you shoot the clock tower w/ a bow to get NG2 (or something like that)
    For NG3, which you get either after NG1, or after NG2, or at anytime at all (FAQs conflict on this) its in some passageway.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Wow, cool.

    I am on the stage WITH the Clocktower, the Vigoor Capital. And I'll say this- the game BEFORE beating horsey guy was good, but now its just pwn. I lub it. Yay for A->Yatenemy.
  • FacTorFacTor Wyoming, MI Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10916Members
    I rented the game... It seems alright.. kinda freaky at times. Too many enemies jumping at you. I reached the first boss, and got owned.. guy swings to fast..
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited May 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+May 24 2004, 05:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ May 24 2004, 05:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No dragon, that's wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wow. I'm wrong. I guess there <i>is</i> a first time for everything.
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