Why The Irc Split?
napi
Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Gamesurge for USA, Quakenet for Euro</div> This is some thing that has puzzled me for an extremely long time now
- Note, this is just an observation. There are, as in most cases, exceptions to this, but for the majority it lies true
Natural Selection is based on Gamesurge - #naturalselection the "official" channel is there, as is the new guides program (#nsguides), the server support room (#nsserver), and i think the Readyroom.org's channel? <-- the official community site
So why does nearly every european clan use quakenet? cu@cpl, (essentially a remake of KTDM, but i'd get shot for saying that probably <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->), VETS, Fek, bP, intrepid, over-Dose, ariadne, synRg to name but a few that spring to mind at first thought...
why the split? It would make so much sense if every one was on one network would it not?
but here's the big question: from where did the split derive?
- I actually use both networks. My old Firearms clan was based on gamesurge (was gamesnet at the time), and my current NS clan is on quakenet... I sure as hell prefer gamesurge. chanserv is far better than Q in many ways, it's more stable and generally more reliable.
[Edit]: I said "USA" for gamesurge simply because that is the majority. I am well aware of the large Aus NS scene, plenty of Canadian clans etc etc... this wasn't posted to cause ANY offence or feed any trolls, please don't read that much into it...
- Note, this is just an observation. There are, as in most cases, exceptions to this, but for the majority it lies true
Natural Selection is based on Gamesurge - #naturalselection the "official" channel is there, as is the new guides program (#nsguides), the server support room (#nsserver), and i think the Readyroom.org's channel? <-- the official community site
So why does nearly every european clan use quakenet? cu@cpl, (essentially a remake of KTDM, but i'd get shot for saying that probably <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->), VETS, Fek, bP, intrepid, over-Dose, ariadne, synRg to name but a few that spring to mind at first thought...
why the split? It would make so much sense if every one was on one network would it not?
but here's the big question: from where did the split derive?
- I actually use both networks. My old Firearms clan was based on gamesurge (was gamesnet at the time), and my current NS clan is on quakenet... I sure as hell prefer gamesurge. chanserv is far better than Q in many ways, it's more stable and generally more reliable.
[Edit]: I said "USA" for gamesurge simply because that is the majority. I am well aware of the large Aus NS scene, plenty of Canadian clans etc etc... this wasn't posted to cause ANY offence or feed any trolls, please don't read that much into it...
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Alot of people play more than one mod, so its much easier to have 3 windows open in mIRC than having to connect to 2 servers.
I'm Scottish btw
I think you got the point. Most "famous" half-life mods (eg. counter-strike, team fortress classic, day of defeat) are based on quakenet in europe. I have never heard of any european tfc clan that is not in quakenet (I played tfc for three years). Most NS players came from other mods. Most came from those "famous" mods so most used quakenet. I suppose this goes for european players only (european clans don't play against eg. US clans that much so there was no need to be in the same irc network).
and quakers (of course)
and its spilting to show you how it hates you, and regets you from irc <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And more people use qnet.
BTW yeah you can connect to many servers at once so it doesn't matter...
Yeh I know but it means you need another window open in mIRC
shanks: I ment another tab in mIRC <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> and I already have 7 open
Tukikohta.FI.EU.GameSurge.Net Tampere, Finland
Reflex.UK.EU.GameSurge.net UK
Lausanne.CH.EU.GameSurge.net Lausanne, Switzerland
Geneva.CH.EU.GameSurge.net Geneva, Switzerland
Burstfire.UK.EU.GameSurge.net UK
--> should be enough.
errr no you don't :o
mIRC Version 5.5x or so and all versions since then support multiple networks
type into any channel / the console;
/server -m irc.network.name (eg /server -m irc.gamesurge.net || /server -m irc.quakenet.org )
you can be on multiple networks with just one mIRC window open. all the channels for quakenet will be listed under the quakenet console tab, all the ones for gamesurge under the gamesurge tab.
Euro clans are all on quakenet..
<3
The New Zealand NS scene was clever enough to start its official NS channels on gamesurge (formerly gamesnet) right from the get-go, as we thought it would be wise for all NS to be on one network.
The Austrlians however initially (from 1.0 up until a week or two ago) used the EntertheGame network. why they chose that network over gamesurge i have no idea. but they were aware of the hassles involved, and shifted everything over to gamesurge.
i think its good to have all NS on one network, saves a lot of hassle in my opinion. so make the big shift guys, cos Australia has <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<a href='http://www.ausns.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.ausns.com/</a>
<a href='http://www.ausns.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6879' target='_blank'>http://www.ausns.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6879</a>
but it isn't centrallised around one big community like the AusNS is - there are sooooo many community channels/sites etc etc, trying to spread the word all over probably wouldn't work
not to mention 90% of people would stay on quakenet to play with their euro based CS / q3 / ut etc clans
I idle both at the same time, much less messing around.
btw L , Q i love U (S dont miss understand me, I dont LOVE U xD)
Put the tab bar on a side of the screen, don't leave it at the top ^^
I'm on 3 networks, and the tabs wouldn't fit on the screen if left at the top.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tukikohta.FI.EU.GameSurge.Net Tampere, Finland
Reflex.UK.EU.GameSurge.net UK
Lausanne.CH.EU.GameSurge.net Lausanne, Switzerland
Geneva.CH.EU.GameSurge.net Geneva, Switzerland
Burstfire.UK.EU.GameSurge.net UK
--> should be enough. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
oops <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Well I think gamesnet had servers in USA only... that's why I said that <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
EDIT: but I prefer this: <a href='http://staff.quakenet.org/servers.phtml' target='_blank'>http://staff.quakenet.org/servers.phtml</a>
Gamesurge is mainly american.
The thought of having it all centralised, would mean a fairly big change, and probably cause problems IE people taking over channels which werent theirs.
I feel the system we have works at the minute therefore why change.
the gamesurgers' idea of us europeans having to change our way of living just to have one server instead of two makes me confused.
and lastly: don't fix it if it ain't broken. that applies for this matter as well as any other thing.
your IRC network is your way of living? wow... :o
incidently, i'm British, and based on quakenet principally, but use gamesurge aswell
in my defence I never said this was a problem / that it should be "fixed" ... i just pointed out an observation. thats all!:D
ps. I don't like having my tabs button at the side <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ps. I don't like having my tabs button at the side <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
do it all the time
Besides everyone should move to Undernet, it is the best IRC network ofcourse <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->