[sug]"open-source" Concepts

Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members Posts: 2,597
edited May 2004 in NS Customization
As opposed to the "OMGTIHS RCOPYRITE!!1"
Alright, lately I've been noticing more and more concept artists are adding "Copyright" to their concepts. Not only is this illegal (unless you apply for and recieve an actual copyright, you're not allowed to say that an item is copyrighted under international law wink.gif), but it inhibits the process of modification and improvement.

Despite growing mockery of this procedure (the topic description of this thread is an example of that), it just seems to be on the rise. It's the "in" thing for new artists, it seems.

I can understand the concerns artists have, such as someone claiming your work as their own, or modeling/skinning/etc. it and saying it was all "from scratch." But I have an idea, something that would free people to improve a concept, while still respecting the original author.

My suggestion? Open Source Concepts. It's simple. Replace the "?2004 Blah" in your drawing with "Open Source Concept." So what exactly does this mean? It means that while everyone can edit and change a concept drawing, no-one can claim full credit for it. And perhaps we could seek moderator assistance to help with those that do decide to break it.

This is my suggestion. Take it or leave it, it's up to you. But at the very least give it some thought. Let's stop smothering our work with a web of protection, and let it get some well-needed fresh air.
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  • JimJim Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9989Members Posts: 873
    I thought you gain automatic copyright the instant you create something?
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  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members Posts: 2,597
    No, you get "intellectual property" when you create something. nerd.gif
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  • ClashenClashen Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20087Members Posts: 1,465
    Good idea, but i suggest press "Enter" sometimes wink.gif
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  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members Posts: 3,104
    Good to hear I am not the only one that gets annoyed when little jonny sticks his disclaimer in my face when he is about the release a box model he made in 3ds max mad.gif
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  • Billy_SilverfishBilly_Silverfish Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15688Members Posts: 228
    www.creativecommons.org

    (this opinion are © Maus 2004)
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  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 3,509
    i like this idea. and yes you have to purchase copyrights before it is copyrighted.

    this is the us copyright office
    link
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  • Mr_JeburtOMr_JeburtO Join Date: 2003-08-29 Member: 20340Members Posts: 1,695
    i hope mephmage is reding this
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  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members Posts: 2,597
    QUOTE (Clashen @ May 8 2004, 01:07 PM)
    Good idea, but i suggest press "Enter" sometimes wink.gif

    Indented just for you. wink.gif
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  • ShinzonShinzon Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18407Members Posts: 339
    I never sayd anything of mine is copy righted...

    i usualy stick my Signature like: SHINZON

    somewhere in the corner... and wouldnt care what people do with it...
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  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members Posts: 2,613
    copyright? what the hell for? this is for fun, sure i copyright the stuff i get paid for, but my ns concepts are just for fun, copyrighting it seems stupid when the mod itself is freely distributed
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  • ChantyChanty Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8950Members Posts: 394
    QUOTE (MR.JEBURTO @ May 8 2004, 11:16 AM)
    i hope mephmage is reding this

    Ditto on Trex...especially the planetside copies
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  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members Posts: 2,597
    The point of this thread is to be informative, not point fingers...
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  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation Posts: 5,602
    im not gonna copyright anything, but just stick on a label saying i made it.
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  • Acid_SnakeAcid_Snake Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18550Members Posts: 268
    QUOTE (6john6doe6 @ May 8 2004, 01:13 PM)
    i like this idea. and yes you have to purchase copyrights before it is copyrighted.

    this is the us copyright office
    link

    confused.gif ...it appears you haven't actually read tha site...

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    Copyright protection subsists from the time the work is created in fixed form. The copyright in the work of authorship immediately becomes the property of the author who created the work. Only the author or those deriving their rights through the author can rightfully claim copyright.


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    The way in which copyright protection is secured is frequently misunderstood. No publication or registration or other action in the Copyright Office is required to secure copyright. (See following Note.) There are, however, certain definite advantages to registration. See "Copyright Registration."


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    A work that is created (fixed in tangible form for the first time) on or after January 1, 1978, is automatically protected from the moment of its creation and is ordinarily given a term enduring for the author's life plus an additional 70 years after the author's death. In the case of "a joint work prepared by two or more authors who did not work for hire," the term lasts for 70 years after the last surviving author's death. For works made for hire, and for anonymous and pseudonymous works (unless the author's identity is revealed in Copyright Office records), the duration of copyright will be 95 years from publication or 120 years from creation, whichever is shorter.


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    In general, copyright registration is a legal formality intended to make a public record of the basic facts of a particular copyright. However, registration is not a condition of copyright protection. Even though registration is not a requirement for protection, the copyright law provides several inducements or advantages to encourage copyright owners to make registration.


    So you see....Content is protected from the moment it's created, to 70 years after te creator's death....and registration is not a condition to this protection...so any copyright notice IS applicable, AND completely legal...
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  • DubbilexDubbilex Chump Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9799Members Posts: 2,017 Advanced user
    Ooh ooh! Glad I got to it first!



    The Internet © Dubbilex
    what
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  • -Drake--Drake- -dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ- Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15125Members Posts: 2,281
    i never copyright mine

    i think most ppl would regonize mine anyway so i dont really worry about them getting stolen

    any1 is free to edit any of mine as long as credit is given

    tho i do stat in my concept thread in my sig which 1s i would prefer wernt modeled as they are for a separet mod
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  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members Posts: 5,865
    QUOTE (-=[Drake]=- @ May 8 2004, 03:33 PM)
    i never copyright mine

    LIES!!!!! biggrin.gif
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  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members Posts: 2,597
    edited May 2004
    QUOTE (Dubbilex @ May 8 2004, 03:14 PM)
    Ooh ooh!  Glad I got to it first!



    The Internet © Dubbilex

    Lol! Seriously, it's getting a bit out of hand. tounge.gif
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  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members Posts: 2,597
    Sorry to go off-topic but...
    Woot! 2,000 posts! tounge.gif
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  • -Drake--Drake- -dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ- Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15125Members Posts: 2,281
    heh very soon i be 1337 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
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  • Acid_SnakeAcid_Snake Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18550Members Posts: 268
    QUOTE (Dubbilex @ May 8 2004, 03:14 PM)
    Ooh ooh! Glad I got to it first!



    The Internet © Dubbilex

    Read tha site, you fanny...tha internet itself is intangible, and furthermore public domain...it's like trying to copyright the entire earth to yourself....it's not doable...not to mention you didn't create tha internet...

    grow up.. ::rolls eyes::
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  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members Posts: 5,865
    QUOTE (Acid-Snake @ May 8 2004, 04:33 PM)
    QUOTE (Dubbilex @ May 8 2004, 03:14 PM)
    Ooh ooh!  Glad I got to it first!



    The Internet © Dubbilex

    Read tha site, you fanny...tha internet itself is intangible, and furthermore public domain...it's like trying to copyright the entire earth to yourself....it's not doable...not to mention you didn't create tha internet...

    grow up.. ::rolls eyes::

    i think he was joking wink.gif
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  • BijiyBijiy Fantastic Damage Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23697Members Posts: 1,417
    I'm copyrighting Chrono's hands as property of Township Rebellion.
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  • Acid_SnakeAcid_Snake Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18550Members Posts: 268
    QUOTE (Bijiy @ May 8 2004, 05:03 PM)
    I'm copyrighting Chrono's hands as property of Township Rebellion.

    confused.gif
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  • BijiyBijiy Fantastic Damage Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23697Members Posts: 1,417
    QUOTE (Acid-Snake @ May 8 2004, 02:08 PM)
    QUOTE (Bijiy @ May 8 2004, 05:03 PM)
    I'm copyrighting Chrono's hands as property of Township Rebellion.

    confused.gif

    Don't look at me like that, I'll do it.
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  • AkalamanaiaAkalamanaia Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11833Members Posts: 1,486
    QUOTE (chrono5454 @ May 8 2004, 03:35 PM)
    QUOTE (-=[Drake)
    =-,May 8 2004, 03:33 PM] i never copyright mine

    LIES!!!!! biggrin.gif
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    In my dreams / Creation ceases without a sound. I have seen the destruction of the Way."
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  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 3,509
    i believe published works are automatically copyrighted, but unpublished works have to purchase one. im trying now to find where it sais that.
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  • CatCopCatCop Join Date: 2003-08-28 Member: 20296Members, Constellation Posts: 1,060 Advanced user
    You get the left hand Bijiy, I already copywrited the right hand!
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  • BijiyBijiy Fantastic Damage Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23697Members Posts: 1,417
    Damn you Delta, we all know what he uses the left hand for...
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  • CatCopCatCop Join Date: 2003-08-28 Member: 20296Members, Constellation Posts: 1,060 Advanced user
    Ohh yeah, I hate the hand he wipes his but with too! (Knows what you were actauly saying)
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