Secret Service Called On 15 Year Old
<div class="IPBDescription">For drawing pictures of Bush</div> <a href='http://www.thedenverchannel.com/education/3224268/detail.html' target='_blank'>http://www.thedenverchannel.com/education/...268/detail.html</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->PROSSER, Wash. -- One drawing showed President George W. Bush's head on a stick. Another depicted Bush as a devil launching a missile.
The drawings by a 15-year-old boy in Prosser were enough to prompt some questions from the Secret Service.
Agents questioned the teen after being called by police. The boy's art teacher told school officials about the drawings, and they called police.
The boy was not arrested. The school district has taken disciplinary action but refused to say what it was. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Rumors on Fark say he was pulled out of his AP Gov class for drawing it... I dunno how true that is. The whole situation is doubleplus ungood, in my opinion. And being that this is fairly political, move it to Discussion if you feel the need, mods.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->PROSSER, Wash. -- One drawing showed President George W. Bush's head on a stick. Another depicted Bush as a devil launching a missile.
The drawings by a 15-year-old boy in Prosser were enough to prompt some questions from the Secret Service.
Agents questioned the teen after being called by police. The boy's art teacher told school officials about the drawings, and they called police.
The boy was not arrested. The school district has taken disciplinary action but refused to say what it was. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Rumors on Fark say he was pulled out of his AP Gov class for drawing it... I dunno how true that is. The whole situation is doubleplus ungood, in my opinion. And being that this is fairly political, move it to Discussion if you feel the need, mods.
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Cartoonists do it in the paper and it's called satire. A kid does it in his notes, and it's called terrorism.
Then again, the cartoonists are probably called terrorists now, too.
Indeed. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
well I always thought the Media was censored in the US, as well as some books and movies (F. 451 was one of those for a long time I believe)
I don't see how a drawing done by a random 15 year old at school can POSSIBLY lead to Secret Police taking action for acts of terrorism.
Unless... *checks room for cameras*
well I always thought the Media was censored in the US, as well as some books and movies (F. 451 was one of those for a long time I believe)
I don't see how a drawing done by a random 15 year old at school can POSSIBLY lead to Secret Police taking action for acts of terrorism.
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Federal law does not censor the media, nor does it censor books. Some communities choose to censor "objectionable" books, but it's on a very local scale (possibly even by school or district).
The government can ask media not to report things (out of respect, if it's an issue of national security, etc), and they can refuse to disclose things to the media... but if the media gets a hold of it, it's pretty much fair game.
There are laws against libel/slander (written and spoken false defamation of character, respectively), but to my knowledge no laws against (1) telling the truth or (2) having an opinion.
You're about 20 years too late <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You're about 20 years too late <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
oh hell i missed that... WINNAR....
You're about 20 years too late <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
oh hell i missed that... WINNAR.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I thought for sure you had it when you made a BB reference.
Always.
You're about 20 years too late <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
oh hell i missed that... WINNAR.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I thought for sure you had it when you made a BB reference. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
nope i missed it, but whenever i read something like this i think "GG George Orwell"
But if they're wearing glasses, u r skrewed.
Sry for the randomness that doesn't really have anything to do with anything.
Is it me, or could we honestly be starting World War III ourselves?
I honestly question that, don't flame me for it. Bush has done some serious stuff that obstructs my rights(I myself drew a picture in class of American soldiers wondering why they were shooting these guys HOLDING AK-47's. Made the 47 guys look kinda southern, to show the similarity of type[people just wanting to defend their home. The police system over there right now is screwed, so even I would carry this stuff at that time. Well, school took the picture and burned it, and I got a long talk about how we need to support our country in its time of need. All I responded with was 'Need my ****', and I got detention for 3 days.)
If my suspitions are correct- Lord help us. It has begun.
Is it me, or could we honestly be starting World War III ourselves?
I honestly question that, don't flame me for it. Bush has done some serious stuff that obstructs my rights(I myself drew a picture in class of American soldiers wondering why they were shooting these guys HOLDING AK-47's. Made the 47 guys look kinda southern, to show the similarity of type[people just wanting to defend their home. The police system over there right now is screwed, so even I would carry this stuff at that time. Well, school took the picture and burned it, and I got a long talk about how we need to support our country in its time of need. All I responded with was 'Need my ****', and I got detention for 3 days.)
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So... did GW himself come to your school and tell the principal to burn your picture? I don't think so.
Since a little thing called columbine that made drawing guns and the like a big no-no... i'm guessing your wonderful school is just saying some extra BS about troops to top it off.
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They were just checking it out, as they have to do with ANY tipoff as such. If the kid did do something violent or harmed anyone else then people would be making a big stink about how these drawings didn't prompt any action into the kid's life...
Do I think the Secret Service is overreacting ? Yes. Do I think it's a big deal ? No. Do I think G Bush was even told about it until after it happened ? Probably not. Do I think you guys are overreacting about calling him Hitler ? Absolutely.
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I also agree with CWAG. My grandmother, a Lithuainian, was living in Germany through half of World War II. And now she's telling me that some of the things happening here in the United States remind her of the late 30's. I believe what the administration is doing is wrong, especially the Patriot Act, but I can't seem to come up with any possible conspiracy theories. Why the hell would someone want to do the things Mr. Bush is doing? Unless you believe all that Illuminati stuff, I can't see any ulterior motives other than a quick buck and a little revenge (and that's just Iraq). And if it is for the money, the human race has found a new low.
This country has been scaring me for about 5 years. I desperately hope that the elections will not be rigged again, becuase if they are I think I'm going to have to move to Sweden or New Zealand - I draw guns in class. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Would you rather people not ever check these kinds of things, and not prevent people from killing others? What? It's an invasion of privacy?! Infringment of free speech?! That's not what you said after Columbine! Etc, etc...
And also, let it be known, that the consitution only really applies to adults. Fifteen year old technically don't have freedom of speech. Also, note, that refereanced ammendments exist more so that the supreme court has a way to repeal such laws that take away our freedom than to prevent them. Many times in our history freedom of speech has been oppressed by laws.
Would you rather people not ever check these kinds of things, and not prevent people from killing others? What? It's an invasion of privacy?! Infringment of free speech?! That's not what you said after Columbine! Etc, etc...
And also, let it be known, that the consitution only really applies to adults. Fifteen year old technically don't have freedom of speech. Also, note, that refereanced ammendments exist more so that the supreme court has a way to repeal such laws that take away our freedom than to prevent them. Many times in our history freedom of speech has been oppressed by laws. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Drawing a picture and practicing with rifles on an uncle's property with specific ideas of killing people with those rifles is two different things.
Heil Bush! Nope, doesn't sound right...
As for the entire Bush becoming Hitler thing, I used to think like that, but now I don't think so. The American people aren't that guillable (yet) and it won't happen for sometime. Just wait till all the people from the WWII era die and a new generation of voters comes out and we might. But by that time, my body will be in the ground and my spirit will be in a snail, slithering along your decaying corpse. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
As for the pictures, the head on a stick one I can understand, that could be a possible threat to the president. As for the devil one, that is more of an opinoin and I don't think they were concerned about one since we have all kinds of Political Cartoons that portray Bush as a rather unintellegent person that doesn't know what he is doing. (Which I agree with... <.< >.> O_O -_-)
-rob
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But if they're wearing glasses, you're screwed. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
LOL