<!--QuoteBegin-Fr05t+Apr 11 2004, 11:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fr05t @ Apr 11 2004, 11:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I heard that in HL2, Freeman dies! But he has a retarded daughter that takes his place, but then falls in love with a strider and has many strider/human hybrids and proceeds to conquer the cosmos. Then the infuriated Freeman comes back from the grave, bites a few million people and start a huge massive cheap budget film zombie movie and everyone lives happily ever after CHEESE! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Haha, i got really angry when i read "Gordon Dies". Then i realized you were just kidding <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Apr 11 2004, 02:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Apr 11 2004, 02:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Despite the fact that we swore blind never to tell anyone about what we'd seen, we lied, and in the next issue of PC Zone we're going to spill every last drop of information.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This same lack of ethics is the friggin reason why HL2 is delayed in the first place. Good job, don't ever buy this magazine please. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If that was true couldn't they sue? They would probably have made them sign a contract.
<!--QuoteBegin-Flint Paper+Apr 11 2004, 05:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flint Paper @ Apr 11 2004, 05:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Which is the one with Kieron Gillen in it? He's aces!
Anyone remember when C&VG used to be good? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> PC Gamer, but sadly he's gone on to comic book pastures and so only writes for them as freelance. Still, he does one or two reviews per mag, and he's as excellent as ever.
And yes, I do remember fondly reading about Resident Evil 2 in CVG, it was pretty damn good back then, and it's a joke now.
<!--QuoteBegin-DarkDude+Apr 12 2004, 02:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkDude @ Apr 12 2004, 02:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, this could answer a few questions.
1.) Was the AI really scripted at E3?
2.) How will an official Valve version of HL2 run on a top-of-the-line system?
3.) Were the physics really <i>that</i> good, or were they also scripted?
4.) Will some of the flaws at the E3 display be fixed? (HL blood "spurts" and windows all breaking in the same way)
Hopefully lots of light can be shed on these questions. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, i think i can answer a few.
1) I believe yes. Admittedly this is from websites about the leak, but they gave pretty good evidence to suggest they were. But that's all i'll say about that.
2) It will run well.
3) Yes, they're really that good.
4) *shrugs*
And finally, Otto, they were joking. PC Zone is pretty well known for being a funny computer magazine. Very obviously they're not leaking information. It's a joke.
2.) How will an official Valve version of HL2 run on a top-of-the-line system?
3.) Were the physics really <i>that</i> good, or were they also scripted?
4.) Will some of the flaws at the E3 display be fixed? (HL blood "spurts" and windows all breaking in the same way)
Hopefully lots of light can be shed on these questions. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, i think i can answer a few.
1) I believe yes. Admittedly this is from websites about the leak, but they gave pretty good evidence to suggest they were. But that's all i'll say about that.
2) It will run well.
3) Yes, they're really that good.
4) *shrugs*
And finally, Otto, they were joking. PC Zone is pretty well known for being a funny computer magazine. Very obviously they're not leaking information. It's a joke. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Its the principle of the matter.
<!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Apr 12 2004, 09:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Apr 12 2004, 09:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Its the principle of the matter. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The principle of... making a joke? An obvious one, at that?
Oh, and Edit: HL2 uses the Havok physics engine, the same one used in Max Payne 2 and Painkiller. The physics are definitely legit.
They use the havok engine, but they could indeed put it to better use that max payne 2 where it was just used for making things look cool when they break.
Iv got a feeling that someone will scan everything and post it here ,so i think I will hold off buying it and save myself £5 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Rue+Apr 12 2004, 11:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rue @ Apr 12 2004, 11:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Iv got a feeling that someone will scan everything and post it here ,so i think I will hold off buying it and save myself £5 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
wonder why valve chose a UK mag? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Probably because there's another magazine (PC Gamer) releasing an "exclusive" in the US.
<!--QuoteBegin-Soylent green+Apr 12 2004, 05:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soylent green @ Apr 12 2004, 05:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> max payne 2 where it was just used for making things look cool when they break. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not to mention bounce around like **** when shot, laf
<!--QuoteBegin-Rue+Apr 12 2004, 04:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rue @ Apr 12 2004, 04:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Iv got a feeling that someone will scan everything and post it here ,so i think I will hold off buying it and save myself £5 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
wonder why valve chose a UK mag? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No. People won't be posting full page scans on here. It's against the forum rules since the content / images in the magazines are copyright. This is so you do actually have to buy the magazine.
If anyone thinks i'm lying, remember back to the last massive wave of HL2 info, with all the scans getting nuked?
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<!--QuoteBegin-MrMojo+Apr 11 2004, 07:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Apr 11 2004, 07:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wow. Pc Gamer said that they're going to be the <b>first</b> to see the HL2 beta!
I see rivarly at the front door. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> As far as I know, PC Gamer ships one day before PC Zone. Hafhaf.
Also keep in mind that the news stand date is the 29th, so subscribers of said magazines (I think there are still a dozen or so of those) will be getting their copies any day now, and I'm sure that just like this time almost exactly one year ago there will be people spilling the beans on any new info found within...
I bought CS:CZ for something to play whilst at home from university and that came with a HL2 preview CD, with all the previously released footage videos in high quality. After seeing that the only bit of HL2 info I want now is when I can buy it - anything else might spoil some of the great surprises which havn't been yet shown (and I will surely bet there are many). Vivé la Valve!
<!--QuoteBegin-MrMojo+Apr 12 2004, 02:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Apr 12 2004, 02:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I got tired of PC Gamer since it stopped being a "funny". "interesting" magazine and became a Preview/Review website in print form. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I've been getting pretty tired of it too... they endlessly hype games that turn out to be crap, and I can get much more timely and informative news/reviews online. Not to mention their constant, shameless self-advertising. I mean, the magazine is all right, but having to wait upwards of 2 months sometimes just to see a review for a game that hasn't been hyped to death is kinda pointless.
Also, I find the demo CDs useless as I can get everything they release generally a month to two months beforehand online. Not to mention that only one or two games max can fit on one CD, which isn't really their fault but it's another reason to give it up. If they switched to DVDs I might stick with it.
All PC Gamer ever did was repeatedly take the mic out of a guy called 'Kieron Gillen' and give average reviews which were already easy to find on the internet.
If games mags would ditch the news, reviews, chips and teats, I'd start buying them again. I get Edge every so often, but after reading the four editorials, it's mostly standard fare. Give me more! Stop listing facts about the game! I want a totally <i>biased opinion</i> of the item in question, not a list of its credentials! You! Reviewer! You like the Shenmue? Don't just tell us about its wicked graphics or hundreds of areas. We want passion! Shove the game down our idiot throats! Make us understand your unique experience with the game, not the merits listed on the back of the box. Case in point - this brilliant article by <a href='http://www.extra-life.org.uk/articles/article.php?id=a37' target='_blank'>Always Black</a> (strong language). Believe me, I'd have never wanted a Star Wars game before reading that.
<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Apr 11 2004, 03:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Apr 11 2004, 03:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Apr 10 2004, 08:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Apr 10 2004, 08:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Despite the fact that we swore blind never to tell anyone about what we'd seen, we lied, and in the next issue of PC Zone we're going to spill every last drop of information.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This same lack of ethics is the friggin reason why HL2 is delayed in the first place. Good job, don't ever buy this magazine please. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm sure that was sarcasm, or a joke of some form.
C&VG & PC Zone, while they are **** who make you register on their site for crap, are pretty well respected mags, not the type that do stuff like break NDAs (*cough* GameStar *cough*)
And besides that there would be many, many legal reprecussions of such a move as well...
No doubt its just a bit of marketting at work... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Huh I missed something with that Gamestar thing? What was it exactly?
<!--QuoteBegin-Starchy+Apr 12 2004, 03:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Starchy @ Apr 12 2004, 03:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All PC Gamer ever did was repeatedly take the mic out of a guy called 'Kieron Gillen' and give average reviews which were already easy to find on the internet. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well no, they didn't really. All the staff joked around with each other, and Gillen was king! Still is actually, but as I said before he's freelance and working on his own comic enterprise.
EDIT: Read his blog <a href='http://gillen.blogspot.com/' target='_blank'>here</a>
<!--QuoteBegin-Tyrain+Apr 12 2004, 04:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tyrain @ Apr 12 2004, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Huh I missed something with that Gamestar thing? What was it exactly? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> German gaming mag notorious for sneaking in hidden cameras to private events to get video footage of games they shouldn't be getting footage of.
They were one ones who leaked the very first DOOM 3 video for example.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Apr 13 2004, 07:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Apr 13 2004, 07:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> PC Zone, and PCGamer have BOTH gotten to play, along with 1 more mag from Asia. PCGamer came first, then in the next week PC Zone did, then the other. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> that third mag would be PC Powerplay.
<!--QuoteBegin-Flint Paper+Apr 12 2004, 11:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flint Paper @ Apr 12 2004, 11:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Case in point - this brilliant article by <a href='http://www.extra-life.org.uk/articles/article.php?id=a37' target='_blank'>Always Black</a> (strong language). Believe me, I'd have never wanted a Star Wars game before reading that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, quite impressive article, compared to the useless hype-review in most magazines today.
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Haha, i got really angry when i read "Gordon Dies". Then i realized you were just kidding <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This same lack of ethics is the friggin reason why HL2 is delayed in the first place. Good job, don't ever buy this magazine please. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If that was true couldn't they sue? They would probably have made them sign a contract.
Anyone remember when C&VG used to be good? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
PC Gamer, but sadly he's gone on to comic book pastures and so only writes for them as freelance. Still, he does one or two reviews per mag, and he's as excellent as ever.
And yes, I do remember fondly reading about Resident Evil 2 in CVG, it was pretty damn good back then, and it's a joke now.
1.) Was the AI really scripted at E3?
2.) How will an official Valve version of HL2 run on a top-of-the-line system?
3.) Were the physics really <i>that</i> good, or were they also scripted?
4.) Will some of the flaws at the E3 display be fixed? (HL blood "spurts" and windows all breaking in the same way)
Hopefully lots of light can be shed on these questions.
1.) Was the AI really scripted at E3?
2.) How will an official Valve version of HL2 run on a top-of-the-line system?
3.) Were the physics really <i>that</i> good, or were they also scripted?
4.) Will some of the flaws at the E3 display be fixed? (HL blood "spurts" and windows all breaking in the same way)
Hopefully lots of light can be shed on these questions. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, i think i can answer a few.
1) I believe yes. Admittedly this is from websites about the leak, but they gave pretty good evidence to suggest they were. But that's all i'll say about that.
2) It will run well.
3) Yes, they're really that good.
4) *shrugs*
And finally, Otto, they were joking. PC Zone is pretty well known for being a funny computer magazine. Very obviously they're not leaking information. It's a joke.
I don't really care, it's the game I want, not more movies.
1.) Was the AI really scripted at E3?
2.) How will an official Valve version of HL2 run on a top-of-the-line system?
3.) Were the physics really <i>that</i> good, or were they also scripted?
4.) Will some of the flaws at the E3 display be fixed? (HL blood "spurts" and windows all breaking in the same way)
Hopefully lots of light can be shed on these questions. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, i think i can answer a few.
1) I believe yes. Admittedly this is from websites about the leak, but they gave pretty good evidence to suggest they were. But that's all i'll say about that.
2) It will run well.
3) Yes, they're really that good.
4) *shrugs*
And finally, Otto, they were joking. PC Zone is pretty well known for being a funny computer magazine. Very obviously they're not leaking information. It's a joke. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its the principle of the matter.
The principle of... making a joke? An obvious one, at that?
Oh, and Edit: HL2 uses the Havok physics engine, the same one used in Max Payne 2 and Painkiller. The physics are definitely legit.
wonder why valve chose a UK mag?
wonder why valve chose a UK mag? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Probably because there's another magazine (PC Gamer) releasing an "exclusive" in the US.
Not to mention bounce around like **** when shot, laf
wonder why valve chose a UK mag? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No. People won't be posting full page scans on here. It's against the forum rules since the content / images in the magazines are copyright. This is so you do actually have to buy the magazine.
If anyone thinks i'm lying, remember back to the last massive wave of HL2 info, with all the scans getting nuked?
I see rivarly at the front door. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
As far as I know, PC Gamer ships one day before PC Zone. Hafhaf.
I've been getting pretty tired of it too... they endlessly hype games that turn out to be crap, and I can get much more timely and informative news/reviews online. Not to mention their constant, shameless self-advertising. I mean, the magazine is all right, but having to wait upwards of 2 months sometimes just to see a review for a game that hasn't been hyped to death is kinda pointless.
Also, I find the demo CDs useless as I can get everything they release generally a month to two months beforehand online. Not to mention that only one or two games max can fit on one CD, which isn't really their fault but it's another reason to give it up. If they switched to DVDs I might stick with it.
And Gillen is aces!
This same lack of ethics is the friggin reason why HL2 is delayed in the first place. Good job, don't ever buy this magazine please. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm sure that was sarcasm, or a joke of some form.
C&VG & PC Zone, while they are **** who make you register on their site for crap, are pretty well respected mags, not the type that do stuff like break NDAs (*cough* GameStar *cough*)
And besides that there would be many, many legal reprecussions of such a move as well...
No doubt its just a bit of marketting at work... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Huh I missed something with that Gamestar thing? What was it exactly?
Well no, they didn't really. All the staff joked around with each other, and Gillen was king! Still is actually, but as I said before he's freelance and working on his own comic enterprise.
EDIT: Read his blog <a href='http://gillen.blogspot.com/' target='_blank'>here</a>
German gaming mag notorious for sneaking in hidden cameras to private events to get video footage of games they shouldn't be getting footage of.
They were one ones who leaked the very first DOOM 3 video for example.
that third mag would be PC Powerplay.
Yeah, quite impressive article, compared to the useless hype-review in most magazines today.