Everyone, Please Launch Steam Now.

7Bistromath · March 2004

All them's what had problems with Steam locking up: you should've stopped the pre-loading like I did. Neener neener neener.

PS: Also, people that complain about being advertised at for CZ shouldn't. You got all the stuff in Steam free when you bought HL five years ago. They didn't have to do that.

Quaunaut · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Mar 13 2004, 09:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Mar 14 2004, 02:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ Mar 13 2004, 08:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Yeah, but I just saw this and disabled this and it was already at 72%. People should atleast get a choice.. I hate this form for aggresive marketing.. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
They DO have a choice. While its defaulted on, they have the choice to cancel it, even at 1%. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
It should have been turned off by default in the first place...

But then again seeing how this is being marketed to CS players, they'd obviously be too dense to know how to turn it on to download their precious locked game...

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>edit: And isnt downloading a locked fully complete version of an unreleased game just asking to be hacked? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I'll give it less than a week...

Like... you'd think you'd have to pay for it BEFORE you downloaded it... this is just inviting all levels of shenanigans.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Inf, you should know as much as the rest of us that CZ has been on all kinds of h4x0r sites for MONTHS.

Soylent_green · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Inf, you should know as much as the rest of us that CZ has been on all kinds of h4x0r sites for MONTHS.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

I'm quite certain that is a quite different CZ though(the one with the missions?).

Quaunaut · March 2004

No, its the same one. It hasn't changed for the past 4 months AT ALL. Even VALVe admits that.

They got the same thing.

Epidemic · March 2004

>Nemesis, Why, it was appropriate?
Had it on pause but yet when I restarted I noticed this

MrMojo · March 2004

Steam has more or less finished the "beta" stage of production. If they expect people to pay money to buy things off steam, it's no "beta". Therefore, I expect a little more support from them. That includes:

1) Testing patches.

Just like Flay has done with a couple of the latest patches, we found a few bugs that were fixed within the hour. I expect them to test it pretty thoroughly, especially after the history of the patches scewing up.

2) Rollback:

If they can't fix major problems like crashes whenever you exit, they should at least roll back patches and fix the problems.

3) Support:

For one thing, this would mean all these helpers admitting that the problems aren't with my computer/dog/parents/monitor, but steam. Then they should actually try to fix peoples problems. Phrases like "u cud do bettar?" or "ur getting it 4 free" don't help. It's not my job to do better, and they're getting paid for it.

4) Actual improvements:

The patches have basically been bug fixes, and then bug fixes caused by the previous bug fixes. I haven't seen that much actual game and steam imrpovement so far, and things that they should have done a long time ago don't count ( fixing favorites, for example).

DarkDude · March 2004

I get the same problem also, I try to quit and Steam will freeze up, along with locking me into a VERY annoying sound loop. This same problem also happens in game too, but mainly on the new 3.0 maps that are laggy.

The worst part of all of this is that power/reset button is broken (don't even get me started on that...) and I have to wrench the damn power cable out to restart. All of this right after I was starting to feel good about Steam. I can download a NS map in 20 seconds over Steam while it would've taken, at the very least, 10 minutes over WON. I'm sure Valve will have the problem fixed up soon... I hope. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

Liku · March 2004

Wait... it wastes my HD space for CS ****? Can I delete?

ThePhilips · March 2004

Um, I want to download the pre-locked version and it wont work <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /> I love steam.

CplDavis · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Mar 13 2004, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Wait... it wastes my HD space for CS ****? Can I delete?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
yea really, is it just cs or CZ as well?

Umbraed_Monkey · March 2004

Im on 56k and I rarely turn on steam...HOW THE FORK DID I GET 72% PRELOADED WITHOUT KNOWING IT?!

Xiile · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Mar 13 2004, 03:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> And yes I am fully aware the option can be turned off, but that's only AFTER you have updated Steam.

Such bad design decisions...

By the time I had realised this... I now already had a locked version of CS:CZ on my PC.... god I hate CS....

<b>AND LO I OPENED THE 5TH GATE AND I BEHELD A GREEN PROGRAM, AND GAMES OF MUCH LOCKING RODE BEHIND IT.</b>  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Yeah... when I saw that I cursed under my breath, walked away, and played some Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

JediYoshi · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Mar 13 2004, 04:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Wait... it wastes my HD space for CS ****? Can I delete?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Of course not, it's permanently carved into the walls of your HD, it's not like you can just delete things afterwards nowadays on a comp.

CplDavis · March 2004

sorry havnt been paying attention

let me get this straight

when u run steam, it will update (I havnt used steam in a week or more, been out of town)

as its updating. it will install counterstrike? (is it is condition zero?) or both?

And its locked? So when u install it you cant uninstall it?

What does it mean by "locked"

and jsut why the hell would steam do something so utterly stupid...

Is it possible to install the counter strike stuf but NOT have it locked?

Tequila · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ Mar 13 2004, 10:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Yeah, but I just saw this and disabled this and it was already at 72%. People should atleast get a choice.. I hate this form for aggresive marketing..

EDIT: Not mention they charge 30$ for an expandsion for a free mod on an ancient engine and they say it's special price *cough*  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
It starts at 72%, presumably as it uses a lot of CS content if you already have it.

I deleted it promptly, and I don't see what the fuss is about. It's nice that if you're going to buy it then you can have it ready to rock on the day of 'unlocking'. It lagged your game of NS? Boo hoo. Stop the pre-loading and then never worry it again.

JediYoshi · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Mar 13 2004, 06:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> And its locked? So when u install it you cant uninstall it?

What does it mean by "locked"

and jsut why the hell would steam do something so utterly stupid...

Is it possible to install the counter strike stuf but NOT have it locked?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Because most people who use steam will probably want CZ, therefore getting it out faster would make most of them happy.

Locked as in you can't play it.

CplDavis · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ Mar 13 2004, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Mar 13 2004, 06:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> And its locked? So when u install it you cant uninstall it?

What does it mean by "locked"

and jsut why the hell would steam do something so utterly stupid...

Is it possible to install the counter strike stuf but NOT have it locked? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Because most people who use steam will probably want CZ, therefore getting it out faster would make most of them happy.

Locked as in you can't play it.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
ooh ooh ok i see

I was just reading really fast in the way people were talking it sounded like they made it so that if u had steam u had to have cs on too. Kinda like some crappy orm of addware.

phew <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

but still, as said earlier, they should have made it optional before hand.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' />

Everyone, Please Launch Steam Now.

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